
Conversations
Conversations draws you deeper into the life story of someone you may have heard about, but never met. Journey into their world, joining them on epic adventures to unfamiliar places, back in time to wild moments of history, and into their deepest memories, to be moved by personal stories of resilience and redemption.
Hosted by Richard Fidler and Sarah Kanowski, Conversations is the ABC's most popular long-form interview program. Every day we explore the vast tapestry of human experience, weaving together narratives from history, science, art, and personal storytelling.
Whether it's an exploration of Australian and American politics, the intricacies of mental health, or the mysteries of ancestry and origin stories, our episodes offer a conversational approach that brings topics to life.
We uncover epic tales of war and peace, the complex dynamics of relationships and family, and the profound impact of grief and loss.
Follow Conversations for thought-provoking discussions, heartfelt stories, and a deeper understanding of the world around us.
Conversations explores the meaning of life, history, relationships, motherhood and fatherhood, love, religion and the origins of human life through a contemporary and conversational Australian lens.
From distinctive accounts of crime, mental health, ancestry, cults, grief, family and parenting, to discussions about science, books, art, music, war, spies and economics, Conversations traverses myriad topics.
Our interviews focus on pioneers of the natural world, wildlife, oceans, fungi, archaeology, palaeontology and megafauna.
Our guests speak about geopolitics, being a refugee and the experience of migration. They come from all walks of life — First Nations, Indigenous and Torres Strait Islander peoples, CALD communities and ancestors of Australia's first fleeters. We explore Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Catholic, Buddhist, Sikh and Hindu faith traditions, among other beliefs, including atheism.
We look at social history as well — close encounters with the ancient world, the Stolen Generations, and adventurers on an explorative odyssey.
In a Conversations interview, you will hear personal stories of secrets, lies, adoption, and living with disability, neurodiversity or chronic illness.
We traverse a person's life story, full of human interest topics, including redemption, love at first sight, spirituality, poverty, having children, family dynamics and even hidden families.
We hear from individuals who have struggled with drug addiction, jail, family violence, political imprisonment, persecution, abuse, depression, anxiety and mental health issues.
Conversations also speak to the public figures of Australian and international society — leaders, artists, politicians, authors, sports stars, actors and musicians.
A writer, a builder, a neurologist, a Paralympian, an Olympian, an amputee, a historian, a comedian, a funeral director, a bird photographer, an ethicist, a doctor, a spy, a pilot, a choreographer, a firefighter, a bookseller, an astrophysicist, a martial artist, a principal, an oud virtuoso, an ecologist, a carer, a demographer, a chess master, a forensic archaeologist, a biologist, a chef, a surfer, a button shop owner, a costume and set designer, a boxer, a drummer, a conductor, a dog behaviourist, an AFL player, a longevity expert, a barber, a Matilda, and a psychologist have all appeared on our program.
After almost 20 years of digging into the lives, stories and worlds of thousands of people, Conversations continues as the ABC's most popular podcast, providing Australians with a social history of our country and paying close attention to the small, personal details that make up a life.
Latest episodes

Nov 20, 2024 • 52min
Alice Roberts on the skeletons' secrets
Alice Roberts, an anatomist and archaeologist renowned for her expertise in human bones, takes listeners on a journey through the hidden narratives of skeletons from centuries past. She discusses the poignant life of a medieval anchoress and the tragic fate of sailors from the Mary Rose shipwreck. Delving into the secrets of arthritis and ancient DNA, Alice reveals how these studies connect historical health issues to today. Her exploration highlights the dark tales of the St. Bryce’s Day massacre and how bones tell powerful stories of life and death.

Nov 19, 2024 • 50min
Cows on a plane — an epic journey from Tullamarine to Chennai
Join Paul McVerry, an innovative cattleman and stud breeder known for his groundbreaking initiative of flying cattle to India, as he shares remarkable tales from his unconventional career. He reveals the challenges of transporting bulls from New Zealand to New York City and the chaotic journey of getting cattle to Chennai. Discover his vision to aid local dairy farming while ensuring animal welfare. Paul’s experience offers insight into international livestock transport, humanitarian efforts, and unforgettable anecdotes that celebrate the bond between animals and humans.

Nov 18, 2024 • 47min
From Jaipur with love — building a romantic life in Australia
Mithila Gupta, a talented screenwriter known for introducing the first Indian family to 'Neighbours' and creating 'Four Years Later,' shares her journey from Jaipur to Australia. She reflects on how Bollywood shaped her romantic ideals and how her father's face-reading skill guided her in the search for love during Melbourne's lockdown. The conversation touches on cultural identity, familial challenges, and the importance of representation in media, revealing how grief and personal growth intertwine in her storytelling.

Nov 15, 2024 • 50min
The magic of metallurgy — inside the ancient trade of blacksmithing
Matt Mewburn, one of the last blacksmiths in Australia, shares his journey from rural life to the artistic realm of blacksmithing after his father's death. He discusses the emotional weight of forging a new path amid grief and the significance of apprenticeships. Matt describes his time at the historic Everleigh Workshops, likening the workspace to an 'industrial cathedral.' He reflects on the union of art, metallurgy, and personal transformation, encapsulating the beauty and legacy tied to the craft.

Nov 14, 2024 • 53min
'It was meant to be me' — the teenage TV star who feels 'lucky to be paraplegic'
Louise Philip, an Australian actress, shares her inspiring journey from a breakout role in 'Bellbird' to becoming a paraplegic after a life-changing car accident. She discusses her resilience in returning to acting and the cultural impact of her former series. Louise opens up about her journey to motherhood, overcoming infertility and redefining parenting as a paraplegic. Her reflections on family dynamics, the balance of humor and pain in recovery, and the importance of authentic representation of disability on screen are both heartfelt and empowering.

Nov 13, 2024 • 52min
Exploring death and grief with heart and healing
Wendy Liu, a seasoned forensic and grief counsellor, shares her profound insights on navigating loss and trauma. She discusses the significance of open conversations about death and the unique challenges faced in forensic counseling. Wendy reflects on her early experiences with autopsies and highlights the intricate nature of grief that extends beyond sadness. She also addresses the struggles of families dealing with ambiguous loss and emphasizes the importance of movement and connection in overcoming personal fears and finding healing.

Nov 12, 2024 • 53min
How a macabre country childhood spawned a best-selling dressmaker’s tale
Rosalie Ham, author of the best-selling novel 'The Dressmaker,' shares insights drawn from her quirky childhood in a tiny NSW town. She recounts wild mouse plagues and eccentric locals that inspired her storytelling. The discussion also delves into profound family dynamics, including her mother's affair amid a devastating illness. As a caregiver to her husband with Alzheimer's, Rosalie reflects on grief and resilience, offering a heartfelt look at how her experiences shaped her literary journey and the emotional weight behind her characters.

Nov 11, 2024 • 53min
The epic mystery of a female pope and the birth that was her undoing
Emily Maguire, a writer and author of "Rapture," reveals her journey from a strict Christian upbringing to losing her faith after a stroke. She delves into the legendary tale of Pope Joan, a woman who disguised herself as a man to rule as pope for two years. Emily discusses the tension between early beliefs and personal identity, the evolution of Christianity's political power, and how awe and spirituality can be found in everyday moments. This fascinating blend of history and personal experience captivates listeners with its insights.

Nov 8, 2024 • 53min
From Yugoslavia to Australia — Jelena Dokic on tennis and the truth
Jelena Dokic, a former professional tennis player and author of the memoir "Unbreakable," shares her remarkable journey from the shadows of familial abuse to the pinnacle of tennis fame. She discusses her struggles with identity and mental health during her career and powerful comebacks. The conversation dives into the complexities of resilience, the impact of past trauma, and the importance of vulnerability in healing. With grace, she reflects on her mother’s influence and the legacy of love that fuels her spirit today.

Nov 7, 2024 • 52min
Journey inside Africa's cave of Great Apes to upend your understanding of the human origin story
Lee Berger, National Geographic Explorer in Residence and paleoanthropologist, shares his adventurous journey discovering ancient hominid fossils in South Africa. He recounts his son’s remarkable find that turned their research around. Berger delves into the revolutionary discoveries within an extraordinary cave, sparking a new understanding of human origins. The conversation touches on the thrill of fossil hunting, the unexpected emotional experiences of the 'underground astronauts,' and how these findings challenge traditional views of what it means to be human.
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