
Conversations
Conversations draws you deeper into the life story of someone you may have heard about, but never met. Journey into their world, joining them on epic adventures to unfamiliar places, back in time to wild moments of history, and into their deepest memories, to be moved by personal stories of resilience and redemption.
Hosted by Richard Fidler and Sarah Kanowski, Conversations is the ABC's most popular long-form interview program. Every day we explore the vast tapestry of human experience, weaving together narratives from history, science, art, and personal storytelling.
Whether it's an exploration of Australian and American politics, the intricacies of mental health, or the mysteries of ancestry and origin stories, our episodes offer a conversational approach that brings topics to life.
We uncover epic tales of war and peace, the complex dynamics of relationships and family, and the profound impact of grief and loss.
Follow Conversations for thought-provoking discussions, heartfelt stories, and a deeper understanding of the world around us.
Conversations explores the meaning of life, history, relationships, motherhood and fatherhood, love, religion and the origins of human life through a contemporary and conversational Australian lens.
From distinctive accounts of crime, mental health, ancestry, cults, grief, family and parenting, to discussions about science, books, art, music, war, spies and economics, Conversations traverses myriad topics.
Our interviews focus on pioneers of the natural world, wildlife, oceans, fungi, archaeology, palaeontology and megafauna.
Our guests speak about geopolitics, being a refugee and the experience of migration. They come from all walks of life — First Nations, Indigenous and Torres Strait Islander peoples, CALD communities and ancestors of Australia's first fleeters. We explore Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Catholic, Buddhist, Sikh and Hindu faith traditions, among other beliefs, including atheism.
We look at social history as well — close encounters with the ancient world, the Stolen Generations, and adventurers on an explorative odyssey.
In a Conversations interview, you will hear personal stories of secrets, lies, adoption, and living with disability, neurodiversity or chronic illness.
We traverse a person's life story, full of human interest topics, including redemption, love at first sight, spirituality, poverty, having children, family dynamics and even hidden families.
We hear from individuals who have struggled with drug addiction, jail, family violence, political imprisonment, persecution, abuse, depression, anxiety and mental health issues.
Conversations also speak to the public figures of Australian and international society — leaders, artists, politicians, authors, sports stars, actors and musicians.
A writer, a builder, a neurologist, a Paralympian, an Olympian, an amputee, a historian, a comedian, a funeral director, a bird photographer, an ethicist, a doctor, a spy, a pilot, a choreographer, a firefighter, a bookseller, an astrophysicist, a martial artist, a principal, an oud virtuoso, an ecologist, a carer, a demographer, a chess master, a forensic archaeologist, a biologist, a chef, a surfer, a button shop owner, a costume and set designer, a boxer, a drummer, a conductor, a dog behaviourist, an AFL player, a longevity expert, a barber, a Matilda, and a psychologist have all appeared on our program.
After almost 20 years of digging into the lives, stories and worlds of thousands of people, Conversations continues as the ABC's most popular podcast, providing Australians with a social history of our country and paying close attention to the small, personal details that make up a life.
Latest episodes

Dec 3, 2024 • 52min
Professor Richard Scolyer — Melanoma expert turned brain cancer patient
Professor Richard Scolyer, a leading melanoma researcher and Joint Australian of the Year 2024, shares his gripping journey from expert to terminal brain cancer patient. He discusses the groundbreaking melanoma treatments he helped pioneer, the emotional turmoil of facing his own diagnosis, and the radical steps he took to fight glioblastoma. Richard reflects on resilience, teamwork, and the vital role of mental health during treatment. His story underscores the importance of cherishing life while confronting mortality head-on.

Dec 2, 2024 • 47min
Antarctica, Kiribati and outback Australia — the adventures of a GP doctor
In this engaging conversation, Dr. Gillian Deakin shares her remarkable journey as a GP who has ventured to places like Antarctica, Kiribati, and outback Australia. She reflects on her unconventional career path, stepping away from desk jobs to make a difference. Dr. Deakin delves into the complexities of functional illnesses—symptoms that defy diagnosis—and discusses the critical role of empathy in patient care. Her stories offer a fascinating glimpse into her experiences in diverse cultures and the profound impact of personal connection in medicine.

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Nov 29, 2024 • 52min
Jonathan Haidt on 'attention fracking' and how to stop tech companies from stealing your child's focus
In this conversation, Jonathan Haidt, a best-selling author and ethics professor at NYU, discusses the pressing issue of screen addiction among children. He argues for a return to play-based childhood, emphasizing the detrimental effects of smartphones and social media on kids' mental health. Haidt also explores the need for legislation to limit social media access for minors and shares strategies like 'awe walks' in nature to reclaim focus and foster emotional well-being. His insights on parenting and the importance of real-world interactions are both enlightening and urgent.

Nov 28, 2024 • 46min
The secrets in the stars — what we can learn about habitable planets, alien life and ourselves
Dr. Laura Driessen, a radio astronomer at the University of Sydney, delves into the mysteries of the cosmos. She shares her journey from childhood fascination with space to her groundbreaking research on radio stars. The discussion touches on the implications of cosmic phenomena for habitability and the search for extraterrestrial life. Laura also explores the nature of black holes, the unique challenges of radio astronomy, and how stellar activity influences life on Earth. A captivating blend of science and wonder!

Nov 26, 2024 • 52min
Alice Zaslavsky's hunger for life
Alice Zaslavsky, acclaimed cookbook author and TV presenter from MasterChef, takes us on a flavorful journey through her life. She shares her childhood in Georgia, where the collapse of the Soviet Union shaped her complex relationship with food. Nostalgic stories of family meals reveal the resilience and resourcefulness of her culture. From adapting to life in Australia to embracing culinary creativity, Alice discusses how food connects us and carries our heritage. Her passion for Georgian cuisine is passed on to her daughter, creating a bridge between past and present.

Nov 26, 2024 • 53min
Pip Williams — from dyslexia to the Dictionary of Lost Words
Pip Williams, author of bestsellers like The Dictionary of Lost Words, discusses her journey from being diagnosed with dyslexia as a teenager to becoming a celebrated writer. She reveals how reading about the Oxford Dictionary inspired her to explore women's underrepresentation in language. Pip shares her challenges and celebrations in creative expression, highlights the richness of personal stories that shape her work, and reflects on the transformative journey of her literary creations, emphasizing themes of gender and history.

Nov 25, 2024 • 49min
Jon Ronson on psychopaths, sociopaths and how to spot them
Jon Ronson, an investigative journalist and author of "The Psychopath Test," discusses the intriguing world of psychopathy. He shares his experiences from a unique course on spotting psychopaths and dives into the bizarre history of experimental treatments in Canada, including nude LSD sessions. Ronson describes chilling encounters with violent offenders and explores the unsettling traits of psychopathy in leaders, emphasizing its troubling presence in both courtrooms and boardrooms. His journey leads to profound self-reflection and insights into societal perceptions of mental illness.

Nov 22, 2024 • 53min
Heroin, Ivan Milat, rehab and redemption — the incredible life of Claude Robinson
Claude Robinson, the manager of Rainbow Lodge, shares his extraordinary journey from heroin addiction and crime to redemption. Having spent time with notorious criminals like Ivan Milat, Claude reflects on his turning point in 2006 when he chose rehabilitation over self-destruction. He delves into the challenges faced by residents at Rainbow Lodge, navigating trauma and rebuilding lives. His story highlights the power of community support and the transformative journey toward healing and purpose after overcoming addiction.

Nov 21, 2024 • 53min
Darren Hayes on the bruising truth behind his Savage Garden stardom
Darren Hayes, the lead singer of the iconic duo Savage Garden, opens up about his tumultuous journey to fame. He candidly discusses the scars of his violent childhood and how these experiences shaped his identity and music. The conversation dives into the emotional highs and lows of celebrity life, his transformative moment at a Michael Jackson concert, and the healing power of creativity and connection. Hayes also reflects on his memoir, 'Unlovable', revealing how personal trauma influences his journey and relationships.

Nov 20, 2024 • 52min
Alice Roberts on the skeletons' secrets
Alice Roberts, an anatomist and archaeologist renowned for her expertise in human bones, takes listeners on a journey through the hidden narratives of skeletons from centuries past. She discusses the poignant life of a medieval anchoress and the tragic fate of sailors from the Mary Rose shipwreck. Delving into the secrets of arthritis and ancient DNA, Alice reveals how these studies connect historical health issues to today. Her exploration highlights the dark tales of the St. Bryce’s Day massacre and how bones tell powerful stories of life and death.
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