
Conversations
Conversations draws you deeper into the life story of someone you may have heard about, but never met. Journey into their world, joining them on epic adventures to unfamiliar places, back in time to wild moments of history, and into their deepest memories, to be moved by personal stories of resilience and redemption.
Hosted by Richard Fidler and Sarah Kanowski, Conversations is the ABC's most popular long-form interview program. Every day we explore the vast tapestry of human experience, weaving together narratives from history, science, art, and personal storytelling.
Whether it's an exploration of Australian and American politics, the intricacies of mental health, or the mysteries of ancestry and origin stories, our episodes offer a conversational approach that brings topics to life.
We uncover epic tales of war and peace, the complex dynamics of relationships and family, and the profound impact of grief and loss.
Follow Conversations for thought-provoking discussions, heartfelt stories, and a deeper understanding of the world around us.
Conversations explores the meaning of life, history, relationships, motherhood and fatherhood, love, religion and the origins of human life through a contemporary and conversational Australian lens.
From distinctive accounts of crime, mental health, ancestry, cults, grief, family and parenting, to discussions about science, books, art, music, war, spies and economics, Conversations traverses myriad topics.
Our interviews focus on pioneers of the natural world, wildlife, oceans, fungi, archaeology, palaeontology and megafauna.
Our guests speak about geopolitics, being a refugee and the experience of migration. They come from all walks of life — First Nations, Indigenous and Torres Strait Islander peoples, CALD communities and ancestors of Australia's first fleeters. We explore Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Catholic, Buddhist, Sikh and Hindu faith traditions, among other beliefs, including atheism.
We look at social history as well — close encounters with the ancient world, the Stolen Generations, and adventurers on an explorative odyssey.
In a Conversations interview, you will hear personal stories of secrets, lies, adoption, and living with disability, neurodiversity or chronic illness.
We traverse a person's life story, full of human interest topics, including redemption, love at first sight, spirituality, poverty, having children, family dynamics and even hidden families.
We hear from individuals who have struggled with drug addiction, jail, family violence, political imprisonment, persecution, abuse, depression, anxiety and mental health issues.
Conversations also speak to the public figures of Australian and international society — leaders, artists, politicians, authors, sports stars, actors and musicians.
A writer, a builder, a neurologist, a Paralympian, an Olympian, an amputee, a historian, a comedian, a funeral director, a bird photographer, an ethicist, a doctor, a spy, a pilot, a choreographer, a firefighter, a bookseller, an astrophysicist, a martial artist, a principal, an oud virtuoso, an ecologist, a carer, a demographer, a chess master, a forensic archaeologist, a biologist, a chef, a surfer, a button shop owner, a costume and set designer, a boxer, a drummer, a conductor, a dog behaviourist, an AFL player, a longevity expert, a barber, a Matilda, and a psychologist have all appeared on our program.
After almost 20 years of digging into the lives, stories and worlds of thousands of people, Conversations continues as the ABC's most popular podcast, providing Australians with a social history of our country and paying close attention to the small, personal details that make up a life.
Latest episodes

Dec 15, 2024 • 0sec
Best of 2024 — Gideon Haigh
In this heartfelt discussion, Gideon Haigh, a prolific author known for his memoir "My Brother Jaz," shares the poignant story of his brother's tragic death at just 17. He reflects on the unique bond of brotherhood, contrasting their personalities and how grief has shaped his life. Gideon reveals the emotional intricacies of coping with loss, including his struggles with guilt and the paradox of work as a distraction from pain. Through his writing process, he uncovers the therapeutic power of storytelling, allowing him to finally confront his past.

Dec 14, 2024 • 53min
Best of 2024 — Pauline McGrath
In a heartfelt conversation, Pauline McGrath, a genetic counselor, shares her poignant journey as she navigates the impact of her husband David's terminal brain tumor diagnosis. She discusses the complex decision-making surrounding voluntary assisted dying laws in Queensland, revealing the emotional challenges and the empowerment that came from their experience. Pauline reflects on grief, love, and the promise she made to David to advocate for VAD, offering deep insights into loss and resilience through their family's journey.

Dec 12, 2024 • 52min
Best of 2024 — Rafael Bonachela
Rafael Bonachela, a celebrated Spanish choreographer known for his collaborations with Kylie Minogue and leadership at the Sydney Dance Company, shares his remarkable journey shaped by strict upbringing and a passion for dance. He discusses the cultural transformation in Spain's arts scene, his struggle against familial expectations, and the joy of pursuing a career in contemporary dance. Rafael reflects on adventurous artistic experimentation, including a vulnerable performance with naked dancers, highlighting the power of connection through art and personal expression.

Dec 11, 2024 • 48min
Best of 2024 — Anita Heiss
Anita Heiss, a celebrated Wiradjuri author and professor, dives deep into her rich cultural heritage and the inspirations behind her latest novel, Dirrayawadha. She shares poignant stories about her parents' enduring love amidst societal challenges. The discussion highlights historical events like the Bathurst Wars and emphasizes the importance of reclaiming Indigenous languages. Anita also advocates for authentic representation in literature, launching a new imprint to amplify First Nations voices. Her passion for love stories intertwines history, culture, and identity.

Dec 10, 2024 • 53min
Best of 2024 — Jack Beaumont
Jack Beaumont, a former French intelligence operative and author of spy thrillers, shares his gripping journey from a troubled childhood in Paris to flying covert missions with the DGSE. He discusses how geopolitical events influence his writing, particularly in 'Dark Arena.' The transformation of Russian security services post-Soviet Union captivates listeners, alongside insights into the psychology of spies and their secretive lives. Beaumont also reflects on the emotional challenges veterans face, revealing a raw connection between past trauma and their current lives.

Dec 9, 2024 • 0sec
Best of 2024 — Rebecca Huntley
Rebecca Huntley, a prominent writer and social researcher, reflects on her 50-year journey with PTSD stemming from childhood trauma. She shares the pivotal moment when she turned to MDMA therapy, leading to a profound personal transformation. Topics of discussion include the impact of her tumultuous parental relationships, the liberating walk on the Camino, and the balancing act between therapy and alternative treatments. Huntley opens up about breaking generational trauma cycles and the importance of empathy in her life and work.

Dec 8, 2024 • 54min
Best of 2024 — Troy Cassar-Daley
Troy Cassar-Daley, an award-winning Australian country music artist with a rich heritage, shares heartfelt insights about his latest album, Between the Fires. He reflects on his multicultural upbringing, the significance of family bonds, and the emotional impact of loss and love. Troy recounts nostalgic childhood memories and discusses the healing power of music while navigating the challenges of family dynamics. His journey from teenage performer to celebrated musician highlights the deep connections between his Indigenous identity and the storytelling essence of country music.

Dec 6, 2024 • 53min
Helen Garner's love letter to her grandson, and football
Helen Garner, one of Australia's most beloved writers, shares her heartfelt journey of connecting with her grandson through football. She explores the beauty of ordinary moments, reflecting on the joys and challenges of grandparenthood. Garner dives into the art of writing, revealing how her experiences shifted her perspective. The emotional depth of football serves as a backdrop for themes of masculinity, community, and the bittersweet nature of growing up. Her narrative weaves humor and poignant reflections about family bonds and the legacy of love.

Dec 5, 2024 • 50min
Cyclone Tracy 50 years on — the epic survival stories of a cub reporter and a woman in the navy
Alan Kohler, a finance journalist, and Patricia Collins, a former member of the Women's Royal Australian Naval Service, share their gripping survival stories from Cyclone Tracy in Darwin, 1974. Kohler recounts huddling with fellow journalists in a collapsing share house as the cyclone wreaked havoc. Collins, a teenager at the time, chose to stay with her Navy crew to aid the recovery. Together, they reflect on resilience, the emotional impact of the disaster, and the vital role of journalism and community support in overcoming such crises.

Dec 4, 2024 • 52min
Love, jail, Jesus, and pubs — a tangled tale of four very different parents
Lech Blaine, author of "Australian Gospel," shares a unique family saga marked by love, faith, and the complexities of foster care. He recounts the passionate romance of his parents, shaped by their contrasting backgrounds. Delving into their nurturing yet challenging parenting styles, Lech highlights how literature served as an escape for his mother. The tumultuous journey of his family reveals deep themes of resilience and acceptance amidst the trials of mental health and societal expectations, making for a poignant discussion.
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