

Conversations
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Conversations draws you deeper into the life story of someone you may have heard about, but never met. Journey into their world, joining them on epic adventures to unfamiliar places, back in time to wild moments of history, and into their deepest memories, to be moved by personal stories of resilience and redemption.
Hosted by Richard Fidler and Sarah Kanowski, Conversations is the ABC's most popular long-form interview program. Every day we explore the vast tapestry of human experience, weaving together narratives from history, science, art, and personal storytelling.
Conversations Live is coming to the stage! Join Sarah Kanowski and Richard Fidler for an unmissable night of unforgettable stories, behind-the-scenes secrets, and surprise guests. Australia’s most-loved podcast — live, up close, and in the moment. Find out more at the Conversations website.
Hosted by Richard Fidler and Sarah Kanowski, Conversations is the ABC's most popular long-form interview program. Every day we explore the vast tapestry of human experience, weaving together narratives from history, science, art, and personal storytelling.
Conversations Live is coming to the stage! Join Sarah Kanowski and Richard Fidler for an unmissable night of unforgettable stories, behind-the-scenes secrets, and surprise guests. Australia’s most-loved podcast — live, up close, and in the moment. Find out more at the Conversations website.
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Jun 13, 2025 • 51min
Encore: When success, a big house and a loving family aren't enough
Scottish novelist Andrew O'Hagan, known for his insightful exploration of social class and identity, dives deep into the elusive nature of success. He examines the character Campbell Flynn from his latest novel, discussing the haunting question of whether wealth and status can truly bring happiness. O'Hagan shares personal anecdotes from his own upbringing, reflecting on the complexities of friendship, loyalty, and the ethical dilemmas tied to ambition. The conversation also critiques London's elite culture, particularly the unsettling influence of wealth on personal integrity.

Jun 12, 2025 • 47min
Actor and Hollywood It Girl Ione Skye on surrendering her Rock 'n' Roll past and forgiving herself
Joining the conversation is Ione Skye, a Gen X actress best known for her role in 'Say Anything...' and her notable relationships with Anthony Kiedis and Adam Horovitz. Ione candidly discusses coming to terms with her absent father and the turbulent journey through Hollywood's highs and lows. She reflects on her tumultuous teenage romance with Kiedis amid his addiction, experiences of infidelity in her marriage, and her transformation toward self-acceptance. Now happily married to Ben Lee, Ione shares her journey of love, growth, and forgiveness.

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Jun 11, 2025 • 52min
Our post-American future — what will the new world order look like?
Hugh White, an Australian Defence Analyst and Emeritus Professor of Strategic Studies at ANU, addresses the shifting global power dynamics. He points out Australia's denial of the post-American landscape, urging a re-evaluation of alliances with nations like the U.S. and China. White highlights key events shaping this new order, including AUKUS and the Ukraine war, and warns against outdated defense strategies. He calls for a proactive approach to national security, reflecting on historical precedents as Australia navigates its future in a multipolar world.

Jun 10, 2025 • 48min
The pyromaniac kid who made barbecue his life
Graeme Stockdale, a skilled chef and owner of The Stockpot Kitchen, has built his culinary empire in Lismore, which was recently honored as Australia’s Best Barbecue Restaurant in 2024. He shares a captivating journey from his childhood embarrassment over family meals to a transformative trip in Singapore that ignited his passion for food. After surviving devastating floods, he turned his restaurant into a beacon of hope, cooking for his community amid adversity. His dedication illustrates the incredible healing power of food and community.

Jun 6, 2025 • 52min
Encore: Hormones and mental health with Dr Jayashri Kulkarni
Dr. Jayashri Kulkarni, a psychiatrist and professor at Monash University, shares insights from her research on the link between women's hormones and mental health. She passionately discusses the benefits of estrogen therapy in treating conditions like depression and schizophrenia. The conversation touches on the evolving role of patient voices in mental health care, emphasizing collaboration over traditional doctor-patient dynamics. Jayashri also highlights the need for more inclusive medical research, advocating for a holistic approach to women's health that considers cultural and environmental factors.

Jun 5, 2025 • 48min
Part TWO: Locked up in China — Cheng Lei on cell mates, singing and survival
Cheng Lei, a Chinese-Australian journalist detained in China for over three years, shares her harrowing experience of isolation and survival. After being moved to a cell with three women, she finds camaraderie and even romance through singing and secret communication. Lei reflects on the absurdity of her charges, her clever coping strategies, and the emotional toll of separation from her children. Finally, she recounts her journey to freedom and the joy of reintegrating back into her life in Melbourne, armed with resilience and newfound strength.

Jun 4, 2025 • 49min
Part ONE: Locked up in China — Cheng Lei on state paranoia and staying sane in isolation
Cheng Lei, a Chinese-Australian journalist once with a state broadcaster, shares her gripping story of being detained for three years on espionage charges in China. She reflects on the absurd nature of her accusations and the harsh realities of isolation, forced confinement, and psychological manipulation. Cheng reveals how she maintained her sanity by practicing German and rationing her mental resources. She also discusses the emotional toll of being separated from her children and the oppressive nature of Chinese state security, providing a profound insight into her harrowing experience.

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Jun 3, 2025 • 52min
Depersonalisation — when Nathan lost his sense of self and nothing felt real
Nathan Dunne, an Australian author and art critic, shares his harrowing journey with depersonalization, which struck him during a midnight swim in London. He recounts years of misdiagnoses and the emotional chaos that accompanied his loss of self. Through poignant reflections, Nathan discusses how familial connections and a war memoir from his grandfather played vital roles in his healing. He delves into the complexities of love amid disconnection and emphasizes the importance of compassion in overcoming mental health challenges.

May 30, 2025 • 49min
Encore: A home filled with music — raising the Kanneh-Masons
Kadiatu Kanneh-Mason, a former English academic and mother of seven gifted classical musicians, shares her family's musical journey. She discusses the dedication required to nurture their talents, including her children's impressive achievements, like Isata’s concerto at eleven and Sheku's performance at the royal wedding. Kadiatu also reflects on cultural identity, the challenges of raising a big, mixed-race family, and the significance of making music accessible to everyone. Their home is a delightful blend of chaos and harmony, filled with the sounds of classical music.

May 29, 2025 • 53min
Why Colm Toibin ran away with the circus — to Barcelona, Brooklyn and beyond
Colm Toibin, an acclaimed Irish novelist known for works like Brooklyn and Nora Webster, shares his adventurous life journey. He reflects on moving from rural Ireland to the liberating chaos of post-Franco Spain. Colm discusses how personal loss and family dynamics fuel his storytelling, revealing the poignant memories that shape his novels. He contrasts the cultural richness of Los Angeles with his Irish roots, while also pondering the tension between creative desires and conventional careers. Expect insights laden with humor and nostalgia!