
Conversations
Conversations draws you deeper into the life story of someone you may have heard about, but never met. Journey into their world, joining them on epic adventures to unfamiliar places, back in time to wild moments of history, and into their deepest memories, to be moved by personal stories of resilience and redemption.
Hosted by Richard Fidler and Sarah Kanowski, Conversations is the ABC's most popular long-form interview program. Every day we explore the vast tapestry of human experience, weaving together narratives from history, science, art, and personal storytelling.
Whether it's an exploration of Australian and American politics, the intricacies of mental health, or the mysteries of ancestry and origin stories, our episodes offer a conversational approach that brings topics to life.
We uncover epic tales of war and peace, the complex dynamics of relationships and family, and the profound impact of grief and loss.
Follow Conversations for thought-provoking discussions, heartfelt stories, and a deeper understanding of the world around us.
Conversations explores the meaning of life, history, relationships, motherhood and fatherhood, love, religion and the origins of human life through a contemporary and conversational Australian lens.
From distinctive accounts of crime, mental health, ancestry, cults, grief, family and parenting, to discussions about science, books, art, music, war, spies and economics, Conversations traverses myriad topics.
Our interviews focus on pioneers of the natural world, wildlife, oceans, fungi, archaeology, palaeontology and megafauna.
Our guests speak about geopolitics, being a refugee and the experience of migration. They come from all walks of life — First Nations, Indigenous and Torres Strait Islander peoples, CALD communities and ancestors of Australia's first fleeters. We explore Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Catholic, Buddhist, Sikh and Hindu faith traditions, among other beliefs, including atheism.
We look at social history as well — close encounters with the ancient world, the Stolen Generations, and adventurers on an explorative odyssey.
In a Conversations interview, you will hear personal stories of secrets, lies, adoption, and living with disability, neurodiversity or chronic illness.
We traverse a person's life story, full of human interest topics, including redemption, love at first sight, spirituality, poverty, having children, family dynamics and even hidden families.
We hear from individuals who have struggled with drug addiction, jail, family violence, political imprisonment, persecution, abuse, depression, anxiety and mental health issues.
Conversations also speak to the public figures of Australian and international society — leaders, artists, politicians, authors, sports stars, actors and musicians.
A writer, a builder, a neurologist, a Paralympian, an Olympian, an amputee, a historian, a comedian, a funeral director, a bird photographer, an ethicist, a doctor, a spy, a pilot, a choreographer, a firefighter, a bookseller, an astrophysicist, a martial artist, a principal, an oud virtuoso, an ecologist, a carer, a demographer, a chess master, a forensic archaeologist, a biologist, a chef, a surfer, a button shop owner, a costume and set designer, a boxer, a drummer, a conductor, a dog behaviourist, an AFL player, a longevity expert, a barber, a Matilda, and a psychologist have all appeared on our program.
After almost 20 years of digging into the lives, stories and worlds of thousands of people, Conversations continues as the ABC's most popular podcast, providing Australians with a social history of our country and paying close attention to the small, personal details that make up a life.
Latest episodes

Dec 26, 2024 • 51min
Richard's Most Memorable Guests — Sandy MacKinnon
Sandy MacKinnon, an adventurer and former teacher, shares his thrilling journey of sailing a small dinghy across the English Channel and through European rivers to the Black Sea. He recounts heartwarming encounters with kind strangers and some hair-raising moments, including a chilling encounter with an armed horseman. Sandy reflects on how childhood literature fueled his passion for exploration and the chaotic joys of navigating canals. His whimsical tales are filled with adventure, humor, and the beauty of facing the unknown.

Dec 25, 2024 • 51min
Richard's Most Memorable Guests — Elizabeth Chong
This week, Elizabeth Chong, a celebrated Chinese-Australian chef and culinary educator, shares her inspiring journey promoting authentic Chinese cuisine in Australia. She recalls vivid childhood memories in Melbourne and the cultural significance of dishes like Hainan chicken rice. Elizabeth discusses the challenges of sourcing traditional ingredients and the evolution of dim sims in local cuisine. With anecdotes of her family’s immigration story, she highlights the rich tapestry of multiculturalism and the deep emotional ties food has to identity and heritage.

Dec 24, 2024 • 49min
Richard's Most Memorable Guests — William McInnes
William McInnes, a beloved Australian actor and author, shares his deep love for Australian English and its quirky phrases. He dives into the humor and challenges of acting, recounting memorable set experiences and light-hearted nicknames. Through anecdotes, he explores the significance of colloquial language in everyday life, along with nostalgic reflections on childhood and family. McInnes also discusses the camaraderie among peers and how the pandemic reshaped community spirit, all while celebrating the richness of Australian culture with wit and warmth.

Dec 23, 2024 • 51min
Richard's Most Memorable Guests — Shaun Christie David
Shaun Christie David, founder of Colombo Social, shares his transformative journey from finance to social entrepreneurship. He discusses the rich culinary heritage of Sri Lanka, highlighting cherished family recipes like chicken biryani and 48-hour mud crab curry. Shaun reflects on the impact of immigration and cultural identity, and the importance of food in building community. He emphasizes redefining success as personal fulfillment through meaningful work, illustrating how his restaurant empowers refugees while celebrating Sri Lankan flavors.

Dec 22, 2024 • 52min
Richard's Most Memorable Conversations — Magda Szubanski
Magda Szubanski, an award-winning Australian actress and comedian beloved for her role in Kath & Kim, discusses her compelling journey of self-discovery shaped by her father's secretive past as a wartime assassin. She reflects on the challenges of migration from Britain to Australia, childhood anxiety, and identity transition. Magda also shares poignant insights on the intertwined themes of family dynamics, comedy, and trauma, culminating in a heartfelt exploration of acceptance and connection to her Polish roots.

Dec 21, 2024 • 53min
Best of 2024 — Bhawani O'Brien
In this enlightening conversation, Bhawani O'Brien, a former GP turned voluntary assisted dying practitioner in Western Australia, shares her transformative journey. Drawing from her Sri Lankan heritage and the loss of her father, she reflects on how grief shaped her perspective on death and healthcare. Bhawani discusses the emotional complexities of helping over a hundred individuals in their final moments, the ethical implications of assisted dying, and the need for open conversations about end-of-life choices, ultimately celebrating the profound connections forged in life’s last moments.

Dec 19, 2024 • 53min
Best of 2024 — Ruth Shaw
Ruth Shaw, the owner of three tiny bookshops in New Zealand, shares her adventurous life in this conversation. She recounts thrilling tales of sailing, surviving pirate attacks, and her unconventional childhood filled with family chaos. Ruth reflects on deep personal struggles, including trauma and resilience, and a heartwarming reunion with her long-lost son that highlights the power of love. She also discusses her journey into bookshop entrepreneurship, bringing a vibrant community space to life, and the enduring value of literature in shaping her identity.

Dec 18, 2024 • 52min
Best of 2024 — Ken Wyatt
Ken Wyatt, the first Indigenous Australian Minister for Indigenous Affairs, shares his remarkable journey from a remote settlement to political prominence. He reflects on the challenges of growing up in the now-defunct railway camp of Nannine, offering vivid anecdotes of his rugged childhood. Ken discusses his transition into politics, motivated by personal experiences and a desire for inclusivity. He emphasizes the importance of education and mentorship, while also exploring the significance of representing his Indigenous heritage in Parliament and advocating for reconciliation.

Dec 17, 2024 • 52min
Best of 2024 — Kasey Chambers
Kasey Chambers, an acclaimed Australian country music singer-songwriter, shares her heartfelt journey from a nomadic childhood filled with music to her rise in the industry. She reflects on her experiences traveling the Nullarbor, the freedom of growing up in a family that valued creativity, and the emotional depth of her hit song 'Not Pretty Enough.' Kasey also discusses the lessons of setting boundaries in relationships and how her divorce led to personal growth and harmony through songwriting.

Dec 16, 2024 • 53min
Best of 2024 — Candice Fox
Candice Fox, an award-winning crime writer known for her immersive storytelling, also dedicates her time to wildlife rescue in Sydney. In this engaging discussion, she shares her chaotic yet heartwarming adventures with her daughter as they rescue injured animals. Candice dives into the humorous challenges of researching her latest book about New York firefighters, revealing the camaraderie and complexities within firehouses. With tales that blend humor and compassion, she reflects on motherhood, rescue missions, and the emotional toll of her creative process.
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