
Conversations
Conversations draws you deeper into the life story of someone you may have heard about, but never met. Journey into their world, joining them on epic adventures to unfamiliar places, back in time to wild moments of history, and into their deepest memories, to be moved by personal stories of resilience and redemption.
Hosted by Richard Fidler and Sarah Kanowski, Conversations is the ABC's most popular long-form interview program. Every day we explore the vast tapestry of human experience, weaving together narratives from history, science, art, and personal storytelling.
Whether it's an exploration of Australian and American politics, the intricacies of mental health, or the mysteries of ancestry and origin stories, our episodes offer a conversational approach that brings topics to life.
We uncover epic tales of war and peace, the complex dynamics of relationships and family, and the profound impact of grief and loss.
Follow Conversations for thought-provoking discussions, heartfelt stories, and a deeper understanding of the world around us.
Conversations explores the meaning of life, history, relationships, motherhood and fatherhood, love, religion and the origins of human life through a contemporary and conversational Australian lens.
From distinctive accounts of crime, mental health, ancestry, cults, grief, family and parenting, to discussions about science, books, art, music, war, spies and economics, Conversations traverses myriad topics.
Our interviews focus on pioneers of the natural world, wildlife, oceans, fungi, archaeology, palaeontology and megafauna.
Our guests speak about geopolitics, being a refugee and the experience of migration. They come from all walks of life — First Nations, Indigenous and Torres Strait Islander peoples, CALD communities and ancestors of Australia's first fleeters. We explore Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Catholic, Buddhist, Sikh and Hindu faith traditions, among other beliefs, including atheism.
We look at social history as well — close encounters with the ancient world, the Stolen Generations, and adventurers on an explorative odyssey.
In a Conversations interview, you will hear personal stories of secrets, lies, adoption, and living with disability, neurodiversity or chronic illness.
We traverse a person's life story, full of human interest topics, including redemption, love at first sight, spirituality, poverty, having children, family dynamics and even hidden families.
We hear from individuals who have struggled with drug addiction, jail, family violence, political imprisonment, persecution, abuse, depression, anxiety and mental health issues.
Conversations also speak to the public figures of Australian and international society — leaders, artists, politicians, authors, sports stars, actors and musicians.
A writer, a builder, a neurologist, a Paralympian, an Olympian, an amputee, a historian, a comedian, a funeral director, a bird photographer, an ethicist, a doctor, a spy, a pilot, a choreographer, a firefighter, a bookseller, an astrophysicist, a martial artist, a principal, an oud virtuoso, an ecologist, a carer, a demographer, a chess master, a forensic archaeologist, a biologist, a chef, a surfer, a button shop owner, a costume and set designer, a boxer, a drummer, a conductor, a dog behaviourist, an AFL player, a longevity expert, a barber, a Matilda, and a psychologist have all appeared on our program.
After almost 20 years of digging into the lives, stories and worlds of thousands of people, Conversations continues as the ABC's most popular podcast, providing Australians with a social history of our country and paying close attention to the small, personal details that make up a life.
Latest episodes

Nov 5, 2024 • 53min
Why Andrew sets the table under the stars in the Australian Outback
Andrew Dwyer, a chef and tour operator, shares his journey of combining fine dining with the beauty of the Australian outback. He reminisces about his 1960s Melbourne childhood and the culinary influences from his godfather and stepmother. Andrew discusses the challenges of serving gourmet meals in remote locations and the cultural connections he made with Indigenous people. He also reflects on the joy of outdoor dining experiences and the adventures he's embarked on while exploring Australia's stunning landscapes.

Nov 4, 2024 • 52min
Byron Bay, reality TV and Shane Warne's bowel movements — why Akmal Saleh hates the jungle
In this engaging chat, Akmal Saleh, an Australian comedian known for his sharp humor and insights, hilariously recounts his impulsive move to a jungle home. He shares wild tales of a python in the roof and unexpected tax bills. Akmal reflects on the chaos of rural life, humorous encounters with reality TV, and the absurdity of discussing bowel movements with Shane Warne. He also candidly explores his ADHD diagnosis and the struggles of introversion, blending comedy with poignant life lessons from his unconventional journey.

Nov 1, 2024 • 52min
From the Commonwealth Games to Everest and the Channel swim — Gerrard doesn’t need to see to believe
Gerrard Gosens is a remarkable three-time Paralympian, adventurer, and chocolatier who hilariously shares his journey of embracing life without sight. He recounts realizing his blindness at school and how it shaped his adventurous spirit, leading him to climb Everest and swim the English Channel. Gerrard discusses the challenges of competitive dancing, navigating sound and memory during his childhood, and his love for chocolate-making. He inspires with stories of family, overcoming obstacles, and finding joy in unexpected places.

Oct 31, 2024 • 52min
What Jack Reacher did next — Lee Child on our favourite lone wolf
Best-selling thriller writer Lee Child, known for creating the iconic Jack Reacher, shares his fascinating journey from a Birmingham boy to a literary sensation. He discusses the complexities of character development, particularly the lone hero archetype embodied by Reacher. Lee reflects on how childhood experiences shaped his storytelling approach and mentions the creative process behind naming his famous character. He also touches on his transition from television to writing and the thrill of engaging with influencers, including the unique experience of being interviewed by a former president.

Oct 30, 2024 • 53min
From the Pilbara to Perth and beyond — the Indigenous psychologist doing things differently
Dr. Tracy Westerman, a Nyamal woman and founder of the Westermundilia Institute for Indigenous Mental Health, is on a mission to improve mental health within Indigenous communities. She shares her journey from the Pilbara to becoming a clinical psychologist, highlighting the significance of cultural context in mental health care. Tracy discusses the establishment of a scholarship for Aboriginal student psychologists and the role of marathons in mental health, showcasing how physical activity can serve as a powerful coping mechanism.

Oct 29, 2024 • 51min
How a famous, broken bible changed the story of a family
Michael Visontay, an Australian journalist and author of "Noble Fragments," shares his family's intriguing connection to a rare Gutenberg Bible. He reveals how the sale of this historical artifact altered their lineage. The conversation dives deep into uncovering family secrets linked to Hungarian Jewish roots and the emotional weight tied to rare books. Visontay also reflects on his family's harrowing experiences during WWII, their migration to Australia, and the lasting legacy of the rare book market, shaped by enigmatic figures like Gabriel Wells.

Oct 28, 2024 • 52min
From Bankstown to the Barossa: the story of Maggie Beer
Maggie Beer, a legendary cook, author, and educator known for her contributions to the culinary world, shares her inspiring journey from humble beginnings in Lakemba to her life in the Barossa Valley. She reflects on the importance of culinary traditions, particularly Mediterranean cuisine, for health and longevity. Maggie also discusses the significant influence of her aunts, her family's resilience in embracing food, and her commitment to transforming dining experiences in aged care. Her passion for community and food shines throughout.

Oct 25, 2024 • 50min
Panic attacks, pride, the navy, and Nate Byrne
Nate Byrne, a weather presenter on ABC News Breakfast and former Naval Officer, shares his extraordinary journey. He opens up about a tense moment when he experienced a panic attack live on air, discussing the vital role of mental health in broadcasting. Nate recounts his time in the Navy, including life aboard submarines and serving during the Arab Spring, revealing the delicate balance of military and civilian life. He reflects on how his eclectic past, from go-go dancing to meteorology, shaped his resilience and adaptability.

Oct 24, 2024 • 51min
A life-changing quince, backyard butchery, and ethical food obsession
Chef Ben Shewry, owner of the acclaimed Melbourne restaurant Attica, shares the journey that shaped his culinary passion. He reflects on his childhood in New Zealand, where food was a family affair, especially cooking with quinces. Ben delves into the challenges of restaurant ownership, advocating for equity in the workplace, and the emotional connections fostered through dining. He also discusses how he adapted his business during COVID, offering comfort through takeaway meals, and the importance of community and cultural heritage in food.

Oct 23, 2024 • 52min
Lee Miller: surrealist photographer, war correspondent, and gourmet chef
Antony Penrose, Lee Miller’s only child and author of her biography, shares his journey of uncovering his mother’s extraordinary life. He discusses her remarkable transition from a Vogue model to a war correspondent, revealing the complexities of her experiences during WWII. Antony reflects on their childhood on a dairy farm, filled with creativity and the influence of visiting artists. He also highlights her culinary adventures and personal struggles, painting a vivid picture of her resilience and the legacy she left behind.
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