
Conversations
Conversations draws you deeper into the life story of someone you may have heard about, but never met. Journey into their world, joining them on epic adventures to unfamiliar places, back in time to wild moments of history, and into their deepest memories, to be moved by personal stories of resilience and redemption.
Hosted by Richard Fidler and Sarah Kanowski, Conversations is the ABC's most popular long-form interview program. Every day we explore the vast tapestry of human experience, weaving together narratives from history, science, art, and personal storytelling.
Whether it's an exploration of Australian and American politics, the intricacies of mental health, or the mysteries of ancestry and origin stories, our episodes offer a conversational approach that brings topics to life.
We uncover epic tales of war and peace, the complex dynamics of relationships and family, and the profound impact of grief and loss.
Follow Conversations for thought-provoking discussions, heartfelt stories, and a deeper understanding of the world around us.
Conversations explores the meaning of life, history, relationships, motherhood and fatherhood, love, religion and the origins of human life through a contemporary and conversational Australian lens.
From distinctive accounts of crime, mental health, ancestry, cults, grief, family and parenting, to discussions about science, books, art, music, war, spies and economics, Conversations traverses myriad topics.
Our interviews focus on pioneers of the natural world, wildlife, oceans, fungi, archaeology, palaeontology and megafauna.
Our guests speak about geopolitics, being a refugee and the experience of migration. They come from all walks of life — First Nations, Indigenous and Torres Strait Islander peoples, CALD communities and ancestors of Australia's first fleeters. We explore Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Catholic, Buddhist, Sikh and Hindu faith traditions, among other beliefs, including atheism.
We look at social history as well — close encounters with the ancient world, the Stolen Generations, and adventurers on an explorative odyssey.
In a Conversations interview, you will hear personal stories of secrets, lies, adoption, and living with disability, neurodiversity or chronic illness.
We traverse a person's life story, full of human interest topics, including redemption, love at first sight, spirituality, poverty, having children, family dynamics and even hidden families.
We hear from individuals who have struggled with drug addiction, jail, family violence, political imprisonment, persecution, abuse, depression, anxiety and mental health issues.
Conversations also speak to the public figures of Australian and international society — leaders, artists, politicians, authors, sports stars, actors and musicians.
A writer, a builder, a neurologist, a Paralympian, an Olympian, an amputee, a historian, a comedian, a funeral director, a bird photographer, an ethicist, a doctor, a spy, a pilot, a choreographer, a firefighter, a bookseller, an astrophysicist, a martial artist, a principal, an oud virtuoso, an ecologist, a carer, a demographer, a chess master, a forensic archaeologist, a biologist, a chef, a surfer, a button shop owner, a costume and set designer, a boxer, a drummer, a conductor, a dog behaviourist, an AFL player, a longevity expert, a barber, a Matilda, and a psychologist have all appeared on our program.
After almost 20 years of digging into the lives, stories and worlds of thousands of people, Conversations continues as the ABC's most popular podcast, providing Australians with a social history of our country and paying close attention to the small, personal details that make up a life.
Latest episodes

Oct 23, 2024 • 52min
Lee Miller: surrealist photographer, war correspondent, and gourmet chef
Antony Penrose, Lee Miller’s only child and author of her biography, shares his journey of uncovering his mother’s extraordinary life. He discusses her remarkable transition from a Vogue model to a war correspondent, revealing the complexities of her experiences during WWII. Antony reflects on their childhood on a dairy farm, filled with creativity and the influence of visiting artists. He also highlights her culinary adventures and personal struggles, painting a vivid picture of her resilience and the legacy she left behind.

Oct 22, 2024 • 53min
Helping people die on their own terms — why Bhawani became a VAD practitioner
Bhawani O'Brien, a voluntary assisted dying practitioner from Western Australia, has been a guiding presence for over 100 people during their final moments. In this conversation, she shares her transformative journey from Malaysia to Australia, illuminating the complexities of identity and ethics in caregiving. Bhawani discusses the profound emotional intricacies of death, what constitutes a 'good death', and the critical role of compassion in voluntary assisted dying. Her reflections reveal the beauty of human connection even in the most challenging times.

Oct 21, 2024 • 51min
Kanye and me — why John Safran squatted in Ye's Hollyweird mansion
In this engaging discussion, John Safran, an Australian gonzo journalist and author renowned for his offbeat takes on culture, shares his wild experience squatting in Kanye West's former mansion. He dives into the surreal and eerie ambiance of the abandoned space, reflecting on creativity and identity. Safran also tackles Kanye's controversial remarks and their impact on cultural narratives. Expect unexpected adventures, boundary-crossing anecdotes, and deep introspection that challenge perceptions of celebrity culture and artistic freedom.

Oct 18, 2024 • 53min
Changing prisoners' minds with Vedic meditation at Rikers Island
Joh Jarvis, a former ABC manager, shares her transformative journey teaching Vedic meditation to men at Rikers Island Prison. She discusses the challenges of navigating security procedures and the emotional barriers faced by inmates. Joh reflects on her own grief and recovery, revealing how meditation became a lifeline for both her and the incarcerated men. Through personal anecdotes, she highlights the profound impact of mindfulness in a place often filled with despair, showcasing the vulnerability and resilience found within these walls.

Oct 17, 2024 • 52min
A wild Bollywood adventure — from Sydney to Mumbai and back again
Nicholas Brown, an Indian-Australian actor and playwright known for his role in "Kites" and work on Play School, shares his captivating journey from Sydney to Mumbai. He reflects on the challenges of embracing a Bollywood career while navigating personal identity and cultural disconnection. Nicholas recounts the excitement of his film debut, the emotional toll of typecasting, and the joys of parenthood. He also discusses his play 'Sex Magic,' exploring queer identity and the healing power of storytelling, all while embracing his rich heritage.

Oct 16, 2024 • 53min
Aunty Ruth Hegarty’s life of defiance, faith and finding her voice
Aunty Ruth Hegarty, a resilient Goongaree woman and acclaimed author, shares her inspiring journey from the harsh realities of the Cherbourg Mission during the Great Depression to finding her voice and family. She reflects on her childhood traumas, emphasizing the bond with her mother and the friendships forged in adversity. Aunty Ruth discusses her struggles as a young worker and the bravery it took to seek freedom. With unwavering faith, she highlights the importance of advocacy and the healing power of storytelling in shaping her identity.

Oct 15, 2024 • 53min
Arnhem Land to Everest — surviving worst case scenarios in the wilderness
Steve Ellis, a seasoned wilderness guide and survival expert with extensive experience training civilians and military personnel, shares captivating insights from his life-threatening experiences in extreme environments. He discusses the critical mindset for survival, essential techniques like fire-making, and the importance of environmental assessment. Steve intertwines personal narratives, including a harrowing Everest expedition and nostalgic childhood adventures, while reflecting on the emotional bonds formed through both survival challenges and family remembrance.

Oct 14, 2024 • 53min
I was a political prisoner in Myanmar — and I could never hate the Burmese
In this engaging conversation, Sean Turnell, an Australian economist and author of "An Unlikely Prisoner," shares his harrowing experience as a political prisoner in Myanmar. He discusses the emotional turmoil of the coup and his detainment, revealing the resilience of both himself and the Burmese people. Sean highlights his work with Aung San Suu Kyi and challenges in Myanmar's economic transition. He also reflects on the eerie design of Naypyidaw and the absurdity of justice under an oppressive regime, all while choosing solidarity over despair.

Oct 11, 2024 • 51min
The coal miner's daughter and the bride stripped bare
Nikki Gemmell, an acclaimed Australian writer known for her provocative novels like "The Bride Stripped Bare," shares her journey from a coal mining heritage to literary fame. She reflects on the duality of her father's character and the struggles of family dynamics. Nikki recounts her early love for literature amidst personal upheavals and her transformative experiences in journalism. The conversation also dives into her heartfelt romantic journey, the complexities of love and loss, and the empowerment found in navigating menopause.

Oct 10, 2024 • 53min
A Sri Lankan hotel, a Harlem nightclub and orgasm-induced amnesia — Dasha Ross' epic adventures
Dasha Ross, an adventurous author and filmmaker, shares her wild tales of managing a hotel in Sri Lanka alongside her husband John. She dives into a bizarre episode of transient global amnesia at dinner, linking surprising memories with orgasms. Dasha reflects on her childhood and her grandmother's wartime romance, while also navigating the challenges following her father's loss. Her journey from a wine bar in Sydney to filmmaker highlights resilience through life's unexpected turns, making each story an engaging exploration of love and community.
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