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Nov 14, 2022 • 1h 6min

World Surfing Champion Shaun Tomson on how to find your purpose | #613

Keen to find your purpose? Growing a business can be tough. And with all the uncertainty in the world, you’d be excused for feeling a little negative at times. If you’re looking for a super effective way to create positive change in your life, and your employees’ lives, then you’re going to love what world surfing champion Shaun Tomson has to share. It’s time to paddle out into big surf on episode 613 of The (13 year-old, award-winning) Small Business Big Marketing podcast.A little more about The Code's Shaun Tomson … Shaun Tomson has an impressive CV. He’s a world surfing champion, an inductee in the Jewish and South African Sport’s Hall of Fame, the US Surfing Hall of Fame, and Surfer Magazine described him as one of the greatest surfers of all time and one of the most influential surfers of the 20th century. Shaun is a past board member and ambassador for Surfrider Foundation, the world’s largest environmental group dedicated to protecting the world’s oceans. He started, managed and sold two multi-million dollar clothing brands – Instinct and Solitude (co-founded with his wife Carla). He’s worked alongside Patagonia founder Yvon Chouinard.  He is the author of the best-selling books The Surfer’s Code: 12 Lessons for riding through life and The Code: The Power of I Will, and most recently The Sage and the Surfer. In his books and from stages around the world, Shaun talks about the influence of positivity on success in life and business, based on his own experiences of overcoming seemingly insurmountable challenges, in and out of the surf. So, if you’re wanting a little reset (especially post all the COVID madness), if you want a little nudge in helping you get back to what you truly stand for in business and in life, then you’ll love what Shaun has to share as we go deep on how to write your own life’s code, how to be mission-driven, the power of ‘Yes!’ in business and how to hustle. Shaun is a great hustler! BTW, Shaun has lived quite the life and we do touch on a topic or two that may trigger for some of you. So remember, please talk to someone if you’re feeling low, or you can always call Lifeline in Australia on 13 11 14.   Here’s Shaun sharing how we came to meet! Resources mentioned in this episode of your favorite marketing podcast Write your own personal code on Shaun's website Interview with Canva founder Melanie Perkins Shaun's surfing movie ... Bustin' Down The Door Services every business owner needs that Timbo recommends How to generate organic traffic to your website(without spending anything on advertising) High converting website designers(They built this website - take this simple quiz and see where yours needs improving) DIY SEO training - The most cost-effective way to get on page 1 of Google(20% off with discount code Timbo20) Proven customer attraction strategy(and ridiculously cheap)    Businesses that made this podcast possible (please support them) DELL Technologies - Small business solutions Studio 1 Design - High converting website designers Fun Escapes - Proven customer attraction ideas Hawk Academy - DIY SEO training (discount code Timbo20 for 20% off)   Thanks for tuning in. May your marketing be the best marketing. Timbo Reid0480 015 150Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/marketingpodcastSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Nov 7, 2022 • 1h 20min

Powderfinger's Jono Coghill on the business of music | #612

What on earth can us business owners learn from Jono Coghill, a member of Powderfinger … one of Australia’s biggest ever rock bands? The answer? Plenty! Tune in as we go deep into the business of music with rock 'n roll royalty. It’s a very rock ‘n roll episode 612 of The (13 year-old, award-winning) Small Business Big Marketing podcast with host Tim Reid.  A little more about Powderfinger's Jono Coghill …  Jono Coghill was the drummer for Powderfinger, one of Australia’s biggest rock bands of the 90s and naughties. Their achievements include 18 ARIA awards, the third highest behind Silverchair and John Farnham, including Best Group, Album of the Year and Highest Selling Album.  They’ve sold millions of albums, and accumulated well over 1.5 billion downloads on Spotify alone. Their anthems These Days and My Happiness were ranked #1 on the Triple J Hottest 100 in 1999 and 2000, and 21 other Powderfinger tracks have ranked on this list in other years. They’ve toured with ColdPlay, Crowded House and Silverchair, and have had their music feature in Hollywood blockbusters including Mission Impossible and Two Hands. Now, at this point I can hear you yelling down your speaker “Hey Timbo, what’s all this got to do with small business marketing?” Everything! This is a deep dive with one of Australia's rock ‘n roll royalty about the business of music. Afterall, Powderfinger went from an idea to a small business to a very fucking big one. So sit back as we cover branding, the creative process, income streams, band dynamics, dealing with both fame and failure, the importance of mentors, the annoyance of yes men, and so much more.  Oh BTW, you might have picked up there’s a language warning on this episode, so lock the kids up if you need to! Righto, let’s go and meet Cogsy … Resources mentioned in this episode of your favorite marketing podcast Powderfinger's official website Interview with Jeff Bezos's shadow Interview with Janene Liston - The Pricing Lady Interview with Alexandra Watkins on business names Register free for Timbo's upcoming Effective Outsourcing Webinar Interview with John Murphy about getting to the top of Google for free Services every business owner needs that Timbo recommends How to generate organic traffic to your website(without spending anything on advertising) High converting website designers(They built this website - take this simple quiz and see where yours needs improving) DIY SEO training - The most cost-effective way to get on page 1 of Google(20% off with discount code Timbo20) Proven customer attraction strategy(and ridiculously cheap)    Businesses that made this podcast possible (please support them) DELL Technologies - Small business solutions Studio 1 Design - High converting website designers Fun Escapes - Proven customer attraction ideas Hawk Academy - DIY SEO training (discount code Timbo20 for 20% off)   Thanks for tuning in. May your marketing be the best marketing. Timbo Reid0480 015 150Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/marketingpodcastSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Oct 31, 2022 • 49min

How to create a culture of care in your business with a 4th generation business owner | #611

Ball chain. Three million feet of ball chain every week. That’s what today’s guest manufactures. You know what ball chain is, right? You will shortly! Plus his 84 year old family business has become the most trusted provider of masks in the US. How’s that for a pivot!? Two vastly different products connected by a business owner who cares deeply for all aspects of his business. It’s a loving episode 611 of The (13 year-old, award-winning) Small Business Big Marketing podcast with Host Tim Reid.A little more about Ball Chain's Bill Taubner … Today’s guest owns and runs two businesses.  One manufactures and sells three million feet of ball chain each week, and was started in 1938 by his great, great, great grandfather. I can already hear you asking what the hell is ball chain. Sit tight, you’re about to find out!  The other is a hygiene mask business that was started in 2020 in direct response to the pandemic, and in just two years has become the most trusted mask provider in the US.  His name is Bill Taubner and whilst he doesn’t sell the sexiest products in the world, he is a business owner that cares deeply for his customers, his staff, his suppliers and his local community. He’s also a business owner that’s crystal clear on his values and ensures they’re evident in all his, and his 100+ staffs’ business dealings. And that’s where today’s big learning is for us all. As you’ll hear Bill say on more than one occasion, great businesses should be a reflection of who you are and what you stand for. Now Bill can get on a bit of a roll, making it challenging for this timid little podcaster to get a word in … but do persevere as he shares some business and marketing gold once he builds up a head of steam. I started off asking Bill how it feels to be at the helm of a fourth generation business …   Resources mentioned in this episode of your favorite marketing podcast Coolabah Capital’s official website Predicting War website LiveWire Markets   Services every business owner needs that Timbo recommends How to generate organic traffic to your website(without spending anything on advertising) High converting website designers(They built this website - take this simple quiz and see where yours needs improving) DIY SEO training - The most cost-effective way to get on page 1 of Google(20% off with discount code Timbo20) Proven customer attraction strategy(and ridiculously cheap)    Businesses that made this podcast possible (please support them) DELL Technologies - Small business solutions Studio 1 Design - High converting website designers Fun Escapes - Proven customer attraction ideas Hawk Academy - DIY SEO training (discount code Timbo20 for 20% off)   Thanks for tuning in. May your marketing be the best marketing. Timbo Reid0480 015 150Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/marketingpodcastSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Oct 24, 2022 • 46min

Leading economist Christopher Joye on getting business-ready for 2023 | #610

With so many media outlets hawking bad economic news to improve their ratings, you’d be excused if you thought the entire world’s economy was on the verge of collapse. So I thought it was time to get a well-balanced, well-researched view. To that end, I knocked on the door of Christopher Joye, one of Australia’s most respected economists and fund managers. It’s a slightly scary episode 610 of The (13 year-old, award-winning) Small Business Big Marketing podcast. A little more aboutCoolabah Capital founder Christopher Joye … Last week I had the pleasure of hearing today’s guest speak about the state of the Australian economy and what the coming 12 months looks like from a business and investment perspective.   His name is Christopher Joye, and he’s one of Australia’s leading economists.    He’s the founder of Coolabah Capital, a funds management business with $7B under management Prior to starting Coolabah in 2011 he worked for Goldman Sachs in London, and for the Reserve bank of Australia. In 2008, the Australian Government invested $15 billion behind a policy proposal he personally developed He was invited by the Rockefeller and MacArthur Foundations to advise the Obama Administration on the US housing crisis And he writes a weekly column for the Australian Financial Review   Now, in the spirit of total honesty, the economy is a topic that I’m no expert on. I scraped through year 12 Economics, and was glad to see the end of it.   So this was a hard interview to prep for, and there were times when I simply didn’t know what I should ask next.   I’ll now take my dunce hat off and say with hand on heart, that despite my ignorance, Chris comes through with the goods. He has an uncanny way of (most of the time) making the complicated beautifully simple.   The first part of the chat is all about his current business, then we get into the heavy stuff. So, put your big pants on as Chris gives us his deeply researched insights into what we can expect economically in 2023 and beyond, and what we can do as business owners to prepare for it and ensure as smooth a ride as possible.   And I know it goes without saying, but I’ll say it anyway. Chris’s advice is of a general nature, not specific to your business. So please do your own research before acting on anything he suggests.   Here’s Chris describing Coolabah Capital …   Resources mentioned in this episode of your favorite marketing podcast Coolabah Capital’s official website Predicting War website LiveWire Markets   Services every business owner needs that Timbo recommends How to generate organic traffic to your website(without spending anything on advertising) High converting website designers(They built this website - take this simple quiz and see where yours needs improving) DIY SEO training - The most cost-effective way to get on page 1 of Google(20% off with discount code Timbo20) Proven customer attraction strategy(and ridiculously cheap)    Businesses that made this podcast possible (please support them) DELL Technologies - Small business solutions Studio 1 Design - High converting website designers Fun Escapes - Proven customer attraction ideas Hawk Academy - DIY SEO training (discount code Timbo20 for 20% off)   Thanks for tuning in. May your marketing be the best marketing. Timbo Reid0480 015 150Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/marketingpodcastSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Oct 17, 2022 • 58min

Successful medical entrepreneur John Neilson loves getting the fundamentals right | #609

Do you ever look at some business owners and wonder how they do it all? How do they take on so much, yet seem to hit home run after home run? How do they find the necessary time and energy to build empire after empire? Today’s guest is one of those unique entrepreneurs (some would call him a unicorn), and he’s kindly agreed to share his secrets of success with us today. It’s a mind-expanding episode 609 of The (13 year-old, award-winning) Small Business Big Marketing podcast.A little more about Doctors On Demand founder John Neilson … Righto, let’s meet today’s business superstar, or as he likes to refer to himself … an old fossil! John Neilson is a qualified pharmacist with 49 years industry experience. Over that time he’s opened 26 pharmacies, ran a pharmacy broking business as well as a medical centre.  For a time he owned and operated Koala Beach, a business selling sunglasses, hats, sunscreens, cosmetics and fragrances to pharmacies across Australia. The company had 14 sales representatives and at one stage was the largest hat importer in the country. John’s also been actively involved in several major property developments in Queensland. If all that’s not enough, he’s the co-founder of Doctors On Demand … a 24/7 Telehealth Service providing online doctors appointments, medical certificates and prescriptions. Oh, and he’s also one of my ocean swimming buddies. That’s a seriously impressive CV!  I started by asking John what drives him.   Resources mentioned in this episode of your favorite marketing podcast Doctors On Demand official website   Services every business owner needs that Timbo recommends How to generate organic traffic to your website(without spending anything on advertising) High converting website designers(They built this website - take this simple quiz and see where yours needs improving) DIY SEO training - The most cost-effective way to get on page 1 of Google(20% off with discount code Timbo20) Proven customer attraction strategy(and ridiculously cheap)    Businesses that made this podcast possible (please support them) DELL Technologies - Small business solutions Studio 1 Design - High converting website designers Fun Escapes - Proven customer attraction ideas Hawk Academy - DIY SEO training (discount code Timbo20 for 20% off)   Thanks for tuning in. May your marketing be the best marketing. Timbo Reid0480 015 150Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/marketingpodcastSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Oct 10, 2022 • 56min

100 cold calls a day for a year created this $15 million dollar business | #608

21 year-old Pam Jabbour made 100 cold calls a day for a year before securing her first client. 100 cold calls. A day. At the age of 21!!  17 years on, she has offices in Australia and China, and runs a multi-million dollar business that dresses 350,00 people daily, Including some seriously blue chip clients and Australia’s Winter Olympics team. And guess what she attributes her success to? Marketing. Good old fashioned marketing! It’s a well-presented episode 608 of The (13 year-old, award-winning) Small Business Big Marketing podcast with host Tim Reid. .  A little more about Total Image Group Founder Pam Jabbour …   Pam Jabbour is the founder of corporate uniform business Total Image Group. A 17 year-old Aussie-owned family business that designs and supplies corporate uniforms. She’s got 36 staff, offices in Australia and China, and a list of blue-chip clients any of us would give their eye teeth for. You’re going to love Pam as she generously reveals the secrets to her success including her deep respect for marketing, how she mastered the art of cold calling, how she wins big corporate contracts, the ups and downs of running a family business, how she’s built a culture that attracts and retains great staff, how she deals with Imposter Syndrome and plenty more. I started off by asking Pam how it feels knowing she dresses 350,000 people every day. Resources mentioned in this episode of your favorite marketing podcast Interview with Thankyou Group founder Daniel Flynn. Interview with Rip Curl founder Bryan Singer. Interview with Flight Centre co-founder Geoff Harris.   Services every business owner needs that Timbo recommends How to generate organic traffic to your website(without spending anything on advertising) High converting website designers(They built this website - take this simple quiz and see where yours needs improving) DIY SEO training - The most cost-effective way to get on page 1 of Google(20% off with discount code Timbo20) Proven customer attraction strategy(and ridiculously cheap)    Businesses that made this podcast possible (please support them) DELL Technologies - Small business solutions Studio 1 Design - High converting website designers Fun Escapes - Proven customer attraction ideas Hawk Academy - DIY SEO training (discount code Timbo20 for 20% off)   Thanks for tuning in. May your marketing be the best marketing. Timbo Reid0480 015 150Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/marketingpodcastSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Sep 26, 2022 • 50min

Inside Releaf, Australia’s largest medicinal marijuana clinic | #607

Australia’s medicinal marijuana industry is poised to explode. Leading the charge is cannabis entrepreneur Gary MacKenzie who is the co-founder of Releaf, the first and largest clinic and dispensary franchise in the Asia Pacific region. It’s a very chilled episode 607 of The (13 year-old, award-winning) Small Business Big Marketing podcast.  A little more about Releaf’s co-founder Gary MacKenzie …   Today’s guest is a successful entrepreneur and marketing professional with over 25 years of management and CEO experience across technology, direct marketing, outsourcing and digital content with a focus on building brands. And that’s exactly what he’s done with the Releaf brand … From scratch, building it to the first and largest medicinal marijuana clinic and dispensary in the Asia Pacific region.   As one of Australia’s leading cannabis entrepreneurs, Gary has become somewhat of a figurehead in an industry that's just starting to find its feet and gain acceptance amongst a community that is divided as to its benefits and values.   And that’s where my interest lies. How does one start a business in a relatively new industry, full of red tape and where not everyone is supportive of it being legal.   Now I was hoping this interview would have a greater focus on the business of starting a legal, medicinal marijuana business in Australia, however as you’ll hear, Gary is a huge believer in the health benefits of his products, so he talks quite a bit about that. Which isn’t necessarily a bad thing as you’ve heard me rattle over the years about the fact that the best marketing is a great product.   Let’s go and meet Releaf founder Gary MacKenzie …   Resources mentioned in this episode of your favorite marketing podcast About Releaf - Australia’s largest medicinal marijuana clinic and dispensary   Services every business owner needs that Timbo recommends How to generate organic traffic to your website(without spending anything on advertising) High converting website designers(They built this website - take this simple quiz and see where yours needs improving) DIY SEO training - The most cost-effective way to get on page 1 of Google(20% off with discount code Timbo20) Proven customer attraction strategy(and ridiculously cheap)    Businesses that made this podcast possible (please support them) DELL Technologies - Small business solutions Studio 1 Design - High converting website designers Fun Escapes - Proven customer attraction ideas Hawk Academy - DIY SEO training (discount code Timbo20 for 20% off)   Thanks for tuning in. May your marketing be the best marketing. Timbo Reid0480 015 150Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/marketingpodcastSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Sep 19, 2022 • 1h 9min

How to create a lucrative dropshipping business with minimal outlay | #606

Looking for a new business idea? Maybe a new revenue stream is appealing? Or are you searching for a cheeky little side hustle? One with minimal set-up costs and requires you to hold no stock. If you answered “Hell yeah!!” then drop everything, as you’re about to discover the ins and outs of dropshipping with one of Australia’s best. It’s a ship-hot episode 606 of The (13 year-old, award-winning) Small Business Big Marketing podcast.  A little more about Dropship Break Thru’s Jon Warren … I’m excited about today’s topic and guest for two main reasons.   Life’s getting expensive and we’re all looking for ways to make an extra quid. Dropshipping can produce that with minimal outlay.   And my guest has mastered the art and science of dropshipping, and as a result lives an envious lifestyle by the beach.   In simple terms, Dropshipping is selling other people’s physical products online.   And Jon Warren is one of Australia’s dropshipping specialists.   In 2014 he launched his first dropshipping business, which grew to seven figures in 24-months whilst he was still working for the man. He sold it three years later, having produced $4M in revenue at a 20% margin.   Since then he’s launched three more dropshipping businesses, all of which have reached seven figure annual revenue with super healthy margins.   John now shows peeps like you and I how to do it with his online dropshipping course - That link will get you some seriously good bonuses you won't find elsewhere.   Time to get excited team … Here’s Jon providing us a deeper explanation of the dropshipping business model and why it’s so good.   Resources mentioned in this episode of your favorite marketing podcast Access Jon’s exclusive Dropshipping course offer to my listeners Jon Warren’s personal website Interview with eBike to hunters dropshipper John Murphy   Services every business owner needs that Timbo recommends How to generate organic traffic to your website(without spending anything on advertising) High converting website designers(They built this website - take this simple quiz and see where yours needs improving) DIY SEO training - The most cost-effective way to get on page 1 of Google(20% off with discount code Timbo20) Proven customer attraction strategy(and ridiculously cheap)    Businesses that made this podcast possible (please support them) DELL Technologies - Small business solutions Studio 1 Design - High converting website designers Fun Escapes - Proven customer attraction ideas Hawk Academy - DIY SEO training (discount code Timbo20 for 20% off)   Thanks for tuning in. May your marketing be the best marketing. Timbo Reid0480 015 150Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/marketingpodcastSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Sep 12, 2022 • 1h 3min

Going big (versus playing small) from day one set Fortress Melbourne up for success | #605

Right off the bat, today’s guest made a critical business decision. To launch Australia’s biggest eSports and gaming brand, he was going to go big, real big from day one. No pussy footing around. No waiting for this to happen in order for that to happen. Nope. He just went fucking big (his words, not mine) from day one. It’s a game-on episode 605 of The (13 year-old, award-winning) Small Business Big Marketing podcast.  A little more about Fortress Melbourne’s Jon Satterley … OK, time to fess up. I know very little about the eSports and video games industry, despite it being bigger than Hollywood and the music industry combined. It’s fucking huge!   Yeah, I grew up with an Atari in my bedroom, and to this day I have a sit down video game machine with about 40 games on it from the 80s … from Space Invaders to Pacman to Donkey Kong and everything in between.   But these days, top games are earning more than Hollywood blockbusters. Grand Theft Auto V has raked in North of $6 billion compared to James Cameron’s Avatar, the highest grossing movie ever at $2.8 billion!    And now there are dedicated arenas, like Toronto’s Esports Arena, that seats 7,000 screaming gamers, as they watch their heroes compete for prize pools in the millions of dollars.   So, to find out more about this relatively new but burgeoning entertainment industry, I contacted Jon Satterley, the co-founder of Fortress Melbourne. Fortress occupies 2,700 sq m inside Melbourne’s prestigious Emporium Shopping Mall, and has to be seen to be believed with gaming rooms, an eSports arena that can seat 1,000, it’s got bars, VIP booths, arcade alleys, even a room full of board games (old school!). So sit back as Jon takes us inside one of the world’s biggest entertainment industries, but also explains where the idea for Fortress came from, and why he and his business partner decided to go, and I quote, fucking huge from day one.   Resources mentioned in this episode of your favorite marketing podcast 5 proven marketing ideas lead to Lawpath becoming Australia’s leading online legal platform | #604   Services every business owner needs that Timbo recommends How to generate organic traffic to your website(without spending anything on advertising) High converting website designers(They built this website - take this simple quiz and see where yours needs improving) DIY SEO training - The most cost-effective way to get on page 1 of Google(20% off with discount code Timbo20) Proven customer attraction strategy(and ridiculously cheap)    Businesses that made this podcast possible (please support them) DELL Technologies - Small business solutions Studio 1 Design - High converting website designers Fun Escapes - Proven customer attraction ideas Hawk Academy - DIY SEO training (discount code Timbo20 for 20% off)   Thanks for tuning in. May your marketing be the best marketing. Timbo Reid0480 015 150Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/marketingpodcastSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Sep 5, 2022 • 1h 9min

5 smart (inexpensive) marketing ideas lead to Lawpath becoming Australia’s leading online legal platform | #604

Tom Willis’s deep respect for marketing has resulted in a business that gets around 350 sign-ups every day, has over 10,000 5-star Google reviews, and four million website visits annually. And no, the business doesn’t have some astronomical marketing budget … It’s a simple legal advisory service for small businesses in Australia. It’s a mind-expanding episode 604 of The (13 year-old, award-winning) Small Business Big Marketing podcast with your host Tim Reid.      A little more about Lawpath’s Tom Willis … Tom Willis is the co-founder of Lawpath, a business he started with some mates in 2014, and today Lawpath is the number one online legal platform for Australian small businesses.   In a large part thanks to Tom’s deep understanding of his prospects’ needs Lawpath: Is responsible for starting six percent of all companies in Australia Has assisted over 300,000 Australian business owners with their legal needs, saving them over $100M in legal fees Has 350 businesses sign-up every single day to seek help with contracts, company registrations and legal advice Has over 10,000 5-star reviews on Google  And the website gets over four million visits annually   So, seriously … grab a pen and paper, or open up your Notes app as Tom shares his secrets to success including Lawpath’s: Customer acquisition strategy His cake method for combining various campaign activities How to leverage key partners The power of newsjacking And why a blog post about driving without shoes became a powerful lead magnet!   I started by asking Tom what problem Lawpath solves for business owners … and I must say, his answer is beautifully to the point … A lesson for us all, right off the bat!!!   Resources mentioned in this episode of your favorite marketing podcast Get your first legal document free with Lawpath (Value $199) How to attract more customers in toy uo business with this simple customer attraction strategy How to use equity crowdfunding to grow your business Inside Australia’s record-breaking crowd funding campaign   Services every business owner needs that Timbo recommends How to generate organic traffic to your website(without spending anything on advertising) High converting website designers(They built this website - take this simple quiz and see where yours needs improving) DIY SEO training - The most cost-effective way to get on page 1 of Google(20% off with discount code Timbo20) Proven customer attraction strategy(and ridiculously cheap) The Boomerang EffectTimbo's book on how and why to create helpful marketing    Businesses that made this podcast possible (please support them) DELL Technologies - Small business solutions Studio 1 Design - High converting website designers Fun Escapes - Proven customer attraction ideas Hawk Academy - DIY SEO training (discount code Timbo20 for 20% off)   Thanks for tuning in. May your marketing be the best marketing. Timbo Reid0480 015 150Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/marketingpodcastSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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