

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole]
Kelly Chase & Jay Christopher King
Reality isn’t what you’ve been told.Cosmosis is your portal to the edge of what we know—and what we don’t. Hosted by writer and researcher Kelly Chase (The UFO Rabbit Hole) and lifelong experiencer and filmmaker Jay Christopher King (The Experiencer Group), this podcast explores the mysteries of UFOs, non-human intelligence, consciousness, the paranormal, and the hidden architectures of reality.We’re not here for manufactured narratives about UFO disclosure or sanitized intelligence community talking points. We’re after the real story—one that’s far stranger, far more beautiful, and far more transformative than we've ever been told.Each episode brings you in-the-field conversations and deep-dive interviews with experiencers, researchers, scientists, and visionaries—people pushing the boundaries of what’s possible and reimagining what it means to be human.If you’ve ever felt the signal beneath the noise… if you’re ready to question everything and follow that signal into the unknown—you’re in the right place.This is Cosmosis.Come with us.Brought to you by SpectreVision Radio.https://Cosmosis.Media[This is also where you can find all the archives from The UFO Rabbit Hole podcast.]
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Apr 4, 2025 • 59min
Ep 6: Diana Walsh Pasulka on Levitation, Redaction, and the Ontological Shock of Contact
Diana Walsh Pasulka, a religious studies professor and author of 'American Cosmic,' discusses her fascinating research on UFOs and spirituality. She explores connections between ancient Catholic mysticism, like levitating saints, and contemporary UFO experiences. Diana shares insights about ontological shock from extraordinary encounters and the cultural significance of new religious movements. With a candid Q&A, she delves into redaction, the symbolism in religious experiences, and whether devotion can shield against malevolent entities.

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Mar 21, 2025 • 1h 11min
Ep 5: Beyond The Telling: Listening To & Interpreting Experiencer Narratives
Discover the fascinating world of experiencer narratives and their significance in understanding UFO phenomena. Delve into how memory, trauma, and cultural biases shape these extraordinary accounts. Explore the intricate narratives that challenge our perception of reality and the philosophical implications they carry. Learn about groundbreaking frameworks from notable thinkers that provide fresh insights into the strange encounters humans have faced. This discussion encourages a deeper, more compassionate approach to listening and interpreting these captivating stories.

Mar 14, 2025 • 1h 1min
Ep 4: Whitley Strieber: Contact, Telepathy, and the Veil Between Worlds
In this captivating discussion, Whitley Strieber, a legendary author and experiencer, shares his insights on the nature of extraterrestrial contact. He delves into the role of human consciousness in shaping these encounters, and how the living and the dead must work together for evolution. Strieber also highlights the hidden reality of telepathy and the military's secret interest in experiencers. With deeply personal reflections, he challenges listeners to embrace the unknown and reconsider societal stigma surrounding UFO narratives.

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Mar 7, 2025 • 1h 9min
Ep 3: Whitley Strieber: The Fourth Mind & Our Surprising Connection to NHIs
In a captivating discussion, Whitley Strieber, renowned author and experiencer, sheds light on his new book, exploring the enigmatic nature of non-human intelligences. He delves into the concept of the 'fourth mind' and its implications for understanding encounters with these entities. Strieber shares personal experiences with the Visitors, their unique perception of time, and the risks of telepathic communication. This conversation challenges listeners to rethink the human-NHI relationship and the transformative potential it holds for our reality.

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Feb 28, 2025 • 1h 35min
Ep 2: Courtney Leffall [Pt 2]: Integrating the Anomalous
Courtney Leffall, an experiencer advocating for transparency in understanding anomalous experiences, rejoins the hosts for a thought-provoking dialogue. They delve into government disclosure and its shortcomings, urging an inclusive discourse on UFOs that goes beyond traditional narratives. Courtney emphasizes the importance of interdisciplinary collaboration, connecting UFO phenomena to ancestral spirits and cultural perceptions, particularly within the Black community. Listeners are challenged to reconsider their biases and expand the conversation to encompass diverse perspectives.

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Feb 21, 2025 • 1h 24min
Ep 1: Courtney Leffall [Pt 1]: UFOs, Psi, and a Paranormal Legacy
Courtney Leffall, an experiencer featured in the Cosmosis docuseries, shares his captivating journey through psi phenomena, precognition, and eerie UFO encounters. He unveils intriguing stories about ancestral connections, including intuitive insights from his grandmother and prophetic dreams linked to historical traumas. The conversation challenges listeners to rethink the boundaries between the paranormal and everyday life, suggesting a deeper, intertwined narrative behind our perceptions of reality.

Feb 14, 2025 • 49min
[The UFO Rabbit Hole] The Final Episode: It's The End Of The World As We Know It
All good things must come to an end. And this podcast, and the international community that has sprung up around it, has been a very good thing. It’s been one of the best things in my life. Which is why it’s hard to actually say the words that this episode will be the last episode of The UFO Rabbit Hole. But before you panic—this isn’t the end. It’s just the beginning.Tune in to find out about the future of the podcast, and to say good-bye to The UFO Rabbit Hole.See Karl Nell's Sol TalkWatch Cosmosis: UFOs & A New Reality
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Dec 30, 2024 • 2min
[The UFO Rabbit Hole] Cosmosis: UFOs & A New Reality Drops Today!
The docuseries that I've spent the last year working on, Cosmosis: UFOs & A New Reality, drops today. It would mean the world to me if you would check it out. It's currently available in the U.S., Canada, Great Britain, and Australia. We're working on more international options, but it's an expensive and complicated process, so thank you for your patience and understanding as we work through that. Watch Cosmosis on Apple TVWatch Cosmosis on Amazon PrimeWatch Cosmosis on YouTube
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Dec 24, 2024 • 1h 25min
[The UFO Rabbit Hole] Ep 38: Through The Looking Glass [Pt 2]: The Strange Tale of Tom Matte & Upsight
In the long-awaited part two of the Through the Looking Glass series, host Kelly Chase is back to tell the bizarre story of the events following her anomalous experience from part one, and how a string of unlikely events brought her to the story of an experiencer with strange psi abilities named Tom Matte. Tom developed what he describes as an interactive holographic overlay on his reality which he calls Upsight in the aftermath of dramatic mental breakdown. More than a decade later, he is still seeking answers about Upsight which he says allows him to access non-local information in fascinating ways and even communicate with NHIs. After a string of unbelievable synchronicities, Kelly found that her story had become inextricably tied to Tom’s, leading her on a journey of inquiry about the nature of anomalous experiences, mental illness, addiction, and more. In this episode she dives deep into this strange tale and the insights and revelations that it spurred. *****************************Cosmosis: UFOs & A New Reality Drops on Apple TV on December 30, 2024.Watch the Cosmosis Trailer*****************************The Institute of Noetic SciencesLearn MoreDonateFollow Tom MatteJesus Goes To Hollywood: A Memoir of MadnessX/TwitterWebsiteMediumMentioned in this EpisodeOlof RocknerIllustrations of Upsight by Olof Rockner
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Oct 26, 2024 • 37min
[The UFO Rabbit Hole] Interview with Kevin Lincoln on Beyond: UFOs and the Unknown
Hey everyone! I just wanted to drop this quick bonus episode to let you guys know about another really exciting UFO docuseries coming out this Sunday, October 27th on MGM+ called Beyond: UFOs and the Unknown. This series from JJ Abrams’ production company Bad Robot features Whitley Strieber, Jeff Kripal, Garry Nolan, Leslie Kean, Chris Mellon, Jay Christopher King, Tim Gallaudet, Mitch Horowitz, and many more. And hey, guess what? I’m in it, too. It looks like it’s shaping up to be a fantastic show, and it is an absolute honor to be involved in this project next to so many people that I admire. In this episode, I sat down with Co-Executive Producer, Kevin Lincoln to hear more about the show and about the process that he and his team went through to bring this to life. I’ve been very impressed with Kevin and his team and how far they were willing to go to chase this story down all the strange rabbit holes that you find on this path. Kevin is a very intelligent and extremely well-read guy, and this was a fun conversation that made me even more excited to watch the show. —Kelly
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