Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole]

Ep 9: Daniel Elizondo on Narrative Control, The Secret Onion, and Vallée's Forbidden Science

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Apr 25, 2025
Daniel Elizondo, a researcher and co-author of 'Loose Threads,' dives deep into the enigmatic world of UFO secrecy and disinformation. He unpacks the 'Secret Onion' concept by Jacques Vallée, illustrating how information is layered and obscured within intelligence structures. Elizondo discusses the emotional toll of disclosure, the challenges of fame in UFO research, and the balance between curiosity and caution in narrative control. The conversation also touches on hidden meanings within Vallée’s 'Forbidden Science' and the intricate dynamics of truth-seeking.
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ANECDOTE

Classic UFO Rug Pull Anecdote

  • The 1974 documentary "UFOs Past, Present, and Future" was promised authentic UFO footage that never materialized.
  • It became a classic example of a recurring 'rug pull' in UFO storytelling, leading to public disappointment.
ADVICE

Handle Rug Pulls Mindfully

  • Expect rug pulls and manage expectations to avoid destabilization.
  • Decide whether to keep pushing the investigation or step back when facing setbacks.
ANECDOTE

Intelligence Breadcrumb Trails Anecdote

  • After publishing Loose Threads, Daniel Elizondo was approached by intelligence contacts but also experienced deliberate silence from others.
  • This shows the use of breadcrumb trails that may control or limit researchers' investigations.
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