Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole]

In a captivating fireside chat, the hosts explore the intriguing link between remote viewing and UFO phenomena. They delve into the creative integrity required in anomalous storytelling and the importance of ethical engagement within the community. Topics like the potential for remote viewing as a means of accessing deeper consciousness and its place in studying UFOs are discussed. The conversation touches on the essence of perception, cultural feedback loops, and even the possibility of remote viewing paving the way for telepathic communication with non-human intelligence.

Join Kelly and Jay as they journey back to pivotal encounters with the unknown, from eerie childhood memories of luminous beings to transformative adult experiences. They tackle the emotional toll of secrecy and the impact of their intertwined destinies. Discover their new commitment to fieldwork and inquiry, focusing on the enigmatic Ohio River Valley. Along the way, they explore the nature of belief, societal perceptions of the unexplainable, and the shared stories that connect our experiences of the extraordinary.

In this episode, Kelly and Jay recount an extraordinary night at the International Remote Viewing Association conference in Cloudcroft, New Mexico—one that began as a simple group experiment in spoon bending and ended with a display of unexplained aerial activity over the nearby White Sands Missile Range. As dozens of participants focused their attention around a bonfire, cutlery softened and twisted in their hands—just as amber lights began moving across the desert sky in ways that defied conventional motion. The synchronicity between the two events raised unsettling questions about consciousness, matter, and the possible feedback loop between human intention and the phenomenon itself. Kelly and Jay examine that night moment by moment, reflecting on its implications for remote viewing, psychokinesis, and the broader study of anomalous events. Along the way, they discuss: The history of spoon bending and PK (psychokinesis) experiments, from Jack Houck’s “PK parties” to government research programs. The atmosphere and experiments at the IRVA conference, including conversations with legendary remote viewers like Lyn Buchanan, Paul H. Smith, and Dale Graff The simultaneous UAP activity observed near White Sands and its uncanny timing with the group’s collective experiment How belief, skepticism, and shared attention can shape reality—and why documenting the anomalous is never just about evidence, but about participation. This episode invites listeners to consider the possibility that consciousness is not a passive observer of the world—but an active participant in its unfolding. Music for Cosmosis is by Michael Rubino. The show is brought to you by SpectreVision Radio. ✨ Join the conversation and go deeper: Cosmosis Community on Patreon – ad-free episodes, monthly calls, private Discord, and more: CosmosisCommunity.com Cosmosis: UFOs & A New Reality – now streaming on Amazon, Apple TV, and multiple platforms: Cosmosis.Media Watch Cosmosis: UFOs & A New Reality: https://www.cosmosis.media/ Join the Patreon: https://cosmosiscommunity.com Subscribe to Cosmosis: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Cosmosis.Podcast Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7KnyktIs059pbVdccD020D?si=f3835f36a8cb479d Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cosmosis-formerly-the-ufo-rabbit-hole/id1595590107 Follow Cosmosis X: https://x.com/cosmosis_media Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/share/12EEyNVPucu/?mibextid=wwXIfr Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cosmosis.media Listen to the Cosmosis Soundtrack by Michael Rubino: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/5Xvs2NAHNbKjfW7hWkjqey?si=pJPPgIPsRZGkZjJh19UULQ Apple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/album/cosmosis-ufos-a-new-reality-season-one-original-soundtrack/1788465117 Amazon: https://amazon.com/music/player/albums/B0DS5WY5CB?marketplaceId=ATVPDKIKX0DER&musicTerritory=US&ref=dm_sh_zY05XPzhLhuow5dAgK3g2W9yC TIMESTAMPS 04:17 Post-IRVA Conference Reflections 06:00 Deep Dive into Remote Viewing 17:34 Spoon Bending Experience and Online Reactions 35:22 Reflecting on Subjective Realities 36:53 Experiencers and Intellectual Humility 38:29 The Private Nature of Extraordinary Moments 41:15 The Challenge of Filming Personal Experiences 52:45 Skepticism and UFO Phenomena 01:04:46 The Magic of Field Work 01:06:54 Upcoming Projects and Community Engagement Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Paul H. Smith, a retired U.S. Army major and an original remote viewer from the Stargate program, delves into the fascinating intersection of remote viewing and UFO research. He shares insights on how psychic perception was used to explore military tasks and UFO phenomena, including secret operations and alleged alien bases. Smith discusses key figures in the field, the challenges of remote viewing UAPs, and even remote assessments of the Moon's far side. His firsthand experiences offer a unique lens on the mysteries of consciousness and the unknown.

In this episode, Kelly and Jay revisit the groundbreaking work of John Keel, one of the most influential and controversial figures in UFO history. Known for Operation Trojan Horse and The Mothman Prophecies, Keel pushed beyond the limits of conventional ufology to propose ideas that remain provocative more than 50 years later. They explore both the human story of Keel—the journalist, traveler, and relentless investigator—and the radical frameworks he left behind for making sense of high strangeness. Along the way, Kelly and Jay connect Keel’s legacy to today’s debates, government narratives, and their own upcoming fieldwork. Highlights include: Keel’s unique approach: using news clipping services and personal witness interviews to identify patterns across thousands of reports. His skepticism toward the extraterrestrial hypothesis and why he suspected UFOs were closer to home than another planet. The “paraphysical hypothesis” and Keel’s concept of the super-spectrum, where UFOs and entities may be part of a hidden ecology overlapping our own. Insights into window areas—locations where high strangeness clusters—and how this connects to modern hotspots. The role of storytelling, control mechanisms, and myth-making in shaping how humanity perceives the phenomenon. Why Keel’s outsider perspective continues to challenge both researchers and experiencers today. Music for Cosmosis is by Michael Rubino. The show is brought to you by SpectreVision Radio. ✨ Join the conversation and go deeper: Cosmosis Community on Patreon – ad-free episodes, monthly calls, private Discord, and more: CosmosisCommunity.com Cosmosis: UFOs & A New Reality – now streaming on Amazon, Apple TV, and multiple platforms: Cosmosis.Media Resources & References Operation Trojan Horse, John Keel:https://www.amazon.com/Operation-Trojan-Horse-Classic-Breakthrough/dp/1938398033/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0 Watch Cosmosis: UFOs & A New Reality: https://www.cosmosis.media/ Join the Patreon: https://cosmosiscommunity.com Subscribe to Cosmosis: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Cosmosis.Podcast Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7KnyktIs059pbVdccD020D?si=f3835f36a8cb479d Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cosmosis-formerly-the-ufo-rabbit-hole/id1595590107 Follow Cosmosis X: https://x.com/cosmosis_media Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/share/12EEyNVPucu/?mibextid=wwXIfr Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cosmosis.media Listen to the Cosmosis Soundtrack by Michael Rubino: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/5Xvs2NAHNbKjfW7hWkjqey?si=pJPPgIPsRZGkZjJh19UULQ Apple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/album/cosmosis-ufos-a-new-reality-season-one-original-soundtrack/1788465117 Amazon: https://amazon.com/music/player/albums/B0DS5WY5CB?marketplaceId=ATVPDKIKX0DER&musicTerritory=US&ref=dm_sh_zY05XPzhLhuow5dAgK3g2W9yC TIMESTAMPS 05:54 John Keel's Background and Early Career 09:38 Keel's Investigative Approach and Findings 13:40 Skepticism and the Extraterrestrial Hypothesis 20:08 Patterns in UFO Sightings and Flaps 33:38 Regional UFO Flaps and Media Coverage 35:19 Contemporary Ufology and Hotspots 37:23 Patterns in UFO Sightings 40:11 The Paraphysical Hypothesis 43:37 Control Mechanisms and Technological Inspiration 59:07 Color Spectrum and UFO Phenomena 01:09:54 Field Work Inspired by John Keel Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dana Kippel, an author and filmmaker known for her insightful work on consciousness, dives deep into the intriguing nature of plasma as a living intelligence. She shares her journey from experiencing trauma to unlocking her intuition through meditative downloads. Dana emphasizes the importance of embracing the feminine aspect of plasma to enhance human potential and navigates the connection between science and spirituality. This captivating conversation redefines our understanding of reality and vulnerability as a superpower.

Philosopher James Madden, author of Unidentified Flying Hyperobject, joins the discussion to explore the intricate relationship between belief and doubt in the UFO realm. He raises provocative questions about whether ufology has turned into a form of religion. The conversation highlights the significance of critical thinking and transparency in investigations, urging listeners to embrace uncertainty while seeking better questions. With insights into the psychological challenges within the community, Madden inspires a deeper understanding of this mysterious phenomenon.

Laura Deutsch, author of "Time, Myth and Matter," dives deep into the realms of consciousness, mythology, and technology. She explores how myth and physics uniquely interpret reality and highlights the intriguing parallels between the I Ching and binary code. Discussing the Simulation Hypothesis, Deutsch suggests it resembles a creation myth more than scientific theory. She also tackles the paradoxes of time—eternalism versus presentism—and examines the significance of synchronicity in shaping our understanding of existence.

Dive into the captivating realm where plasma meets consciousness! Discover how plasma, a mysterious fourth state of matter, could be key to understanding UFOs and paranormal experiences. Explore Robert Temple's groundbreaking theories and the connection between orb phenomena and intelligence. Engage with discussions on the limits of materialistic viewpoints and how process philosophy can reshape our understanding of reality. This enlightening conversation challenges perceptions of mind, matter, and the enigmatic nature of the universe.

A recent workshop at the University of Exeter explored the intriguing idea that plasma might underlie non-biological intelligence. Discussing UFOs as relational events, the conversation highlighted how narratives shape our understanding of these phenomena. Myth and curiosity serve as catalysts for personal transformation, reshaping belief systems through encounters with the unexplained. The Hero's Journey emerges as a powerful metaphor, revealing how unanswerable questions can awaken profound shifts in perspective and promote spiritual growth.