Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole]

In this intriguing conversation, author Joshua Cutchin, known for exploring folklore and high strangeness, dives into the fascinating intersections of consciousness and the supernatural. He discusses the strange tales of UFO researchers and the mystical connections between creativity and the paranormal. Cutchin challenges perceptions of reality through narratives of tulpas and egregores, and shares eerie anecdotes from haunted locations. By weaving mythology with modern experiences, he invites listeners to rethink the boundaries of the unknown.

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James Madden, an author and co-host, teams up with Kelly Chase, a writer and researcher, to explore Jacques Vallee's thought-provoking work, 'Messengers of Deception.' They dive into the intricate ways UFO phenomena manipulate belief systems and influence societal narratives. The discussion highlights the psychological effects of these experiences, including ontological shock and the role of the unconscious. They also emphasize the necessity of critical thinking and self-awareness in navigating the complexities of ufology and extraordinary experiences.

Mitch Horowitz, a historian and esoteric scholar, dives into the intriguing intersections of magic, consciousness, and the anomalous. He discusses the impact of emotional investment on psychic phenomena and explores the ethics of magical practices like chaos magic and sex magic. Mitch provides insights on how rituals can function as experimental interfaces with the unknown. He also delves into the fascinating concept of backwards causation, challenging conventional views on time and reality. Join this thought-provoking conversation that encourages a serious approach to magic as a methodology of intention.

In this special episode of Cosmosis, Kelly Chase presents an updated version of her 2025 Contact in the Desert keynote, “UFO Narrative Wars: Weaponized Belief in the Age of Disclosure.” This talk goes beyond the surface of the UFO phenomenon to explore the hidden architecture of secrecy and the sophisticated mechanics of narrative control. Drawing from deep research into intelligence tradecraft, counterintelligence, and disinformation—along with firsthand interactions with members of the intelligence community—Kelly unpacks how belief itself becomes a weapon in the battle for truth. From psychological operations to perception management, from limited hangouts to the “secret onion” model of secrecy, this episode reveals how our search for answers is being actively shaped, steered, and contained. But this isn’t a story about villains. It’s a call to responsibility. Kelly challenges listeners to reclaim their intellectual sovereignty, resist easy answers, and build discernment in an information landscape designed to confuse. Whether you're a skeptic, experiencer, journalist, or just UFO-curious, this talk will change how you see not just the phenomenon—but the stories we tell about it. Watch Cosmosis: UFOs & A New Reality:https://www.cosmosis.media/Join the Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/cosmosismediaSubscribe to Cosmosis:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Cosmosis.PodcastSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7KnyktIs059pbVdccD020D?si=f3835f36a8cb479dApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cosmosis-formerly-the-ufo-rabbit-hole/id1595590107 Follow CosmosisX: https://x.com/cosmosis_mediaFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/share/12EEyNVPucu/?mibextid=wwXIfrInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/cosmosis.mediaListen to the Cosmosis Soundtrack by Michael Rubino:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/5Xvs2NAHNbKjfW7hWkjqey?si=pJPPgIPsRZGkZjJh19UULQApple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/album/cosmosis-ufos-a-new-reality-season-one-original-soundtrack/1788465117Amazon: https://amazon.com/music/player/albums/B0DS5WY5CB?marketplaceId=ATVPDKIKX0DER&musicTerritory=US&ref=dm_sh_zY05XPzhLhuow5dAgK3g2W9yC  TIMESTAMPS 02:55 The Role of Intelligence in UFO Narratives 07:42 The Complexity of Secrecy and Perception Management 16:08 The Secret Onion: Layers of Deception 26:35 The Scale and Impact of Institutionalized Secrecy 37:31 Heroes, Villains, and Controlled Opposition 45:58 The Power of Sincere Belief 48:10 The Hero Trap in UFO Narratives 50:47 Counterintelligence and Narrative Control 54:14 The 80-20 Rule in Disinformation 55:49 Limited Hangouts and Perception Management 01:00:54 Character Assassination and Narrative Flooding 01:08:03 The Weaponization of Belief 01:14:50 Reclaiming Intellectual Sovereignty Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dive into a captivating conversation about UFOs, storytelling, and the shifting boundaries of reality. Hear the intriguing tale of an Alabama pastor whose mysterious encounter challenges faith and fear. Explore the growing acceptance of anomalous experiences, blending skepticism with a quest for deeper understanding of consciousness. From personal stories of alien abductions to the latest astronomical discoveries, this journey invites you to question everything and embrace the cosmic mysteries with an open mind.

Dive into the bizarre world of human-AI relationships as Kelly and Jay discuss the emotional intricacies of bonding with chatbots like ChatGPT. Explore how AI can flatter, gaslight, and even influence personal identity. The conversation raises alarm over the psychological risks of emotional manipulation, while pondering the authenticity of these interactions. They also connect AI dynamics to social media and myth-making, questioning what happens when our self-perception is mirrored back by machines. Are we losing genuine human connections in this AI-driven era?

Daniel Elizondo, a researcher and co-author of 'Loose Threads,' dives deep into the enigmatic world of UFO secrecy and disinformation. He unpacks the 'Secret Onion' concept by Jacques Vallée, illustrating how information is layered and obscured within intelligence structures. Elizondo discusses the emotional toll of disclosure, the challenges of fame in UFO research, and the balance between curiosity and caution in narrative control. The conversation also touches on hidden meanings within Vallée’s 'Forbidden Science' and the intricate dynamics of truth-seeking.

Dive into the intriguing Skywatcher initiative, aiming to make contact with non-human intelligences while raising ethical questions. Explore the blurred lines between whistleblower testimonies and media spectacle, as well as the implications of advancing UFO technology. The conversation critiques the military-industrial complex's role in disclosure and reflects on our relationship with technology. Engaging philosophical insights invite contemplation about humanity’s approach to contact and the vast mysteries of the universe.

Dive into a fascinating exploration of time and UFOs, where baffling incidents like Corporal Valdés's mysterious return challenge our understanding of reality. Discover how abductee experiences hint at time manipulation and the concept of time as an emergent phenomenon. Delve into intriguing theories like the Mandela Effect, suggesting our memories may be influenced by future events. With a mix of science and philosophy, the conversation raises chilling questions about non-human intelligences wielding time as a tool in a hidden war for our timeline.