

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole]
Kelly Chase & Jay Christopher King
Reality isn’t what you’ve been told.Cosmosis is your portal to the edge of what we know—and what we don’t. Hosted by writer and researcher Kelly Chase (The UFO Rabbit Hole) and lifelong experiencer and filmmaker Jay Christopher King (The Experiencer Group), this podcast explores the mysteries of UFOs, non-human intelligence, consciousness, the paranormal, and the hidden architectures of reality.We’re not here for manufactured narratives about UFO disclosure or sanitized intelligence community talking points. We’re after the real story—one that’s far stranger, far more beautiful, and far more transformative than we've ever been told.Each episode brings you in-the-field conversations and deep-dive interviews with experiencers, researchers, scientists, and visionaries—people pushing the boundaries of what’s possible and reimagining what it means to be human.If you’ve ever felt the signal beneath the noise… if you’re ready to question everything and follow that signal into the unknown—you’re in the right place.This is Cosmosis.Come with us.Brought to you by SpectreVision Radio.https://Cosmosis.Media[This is also where you can find all the archives from The UFO Rabbit Hole podcast.]
Episodes
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Oct 16, 2025 • 58min
On Remote Viewing & UFOs: Paul H. Smith at IRVA 2025
Paul H. Smith, a retired U.S. Army major and an original remote viewer from the Stargate program, delves into the fascinating intersection of remote viewing and UFO research. He shares insights on how psychic perception was used to explore military tasks and UFO phenomena, including secret operations and alleged alien bases. Smith discusses key figures in the field, the challenges of remote viewing UAPs, and even remote assessments of the Moon's far side. His firsthand experiences offer a unique lens on the mysteries of consciousness and the unknown.

Oct 2, 2025 • 1h 20min
Into the Superspectrum: Following John Keel's Trojan Horse
In this episode, Kelly and Jay revisit the groundbreaking work of John Keel, one of the most influential and controversial figures in UFO history. Known for Operation Trojan Horse and The Mothman Prophecies, Keel pushed beyond the limits of conventional ufology to propose ideas that remain provocative more than 50 years later.
They explore both the human story of Keel—the journalist, traveler, and relentless investigator—and the radical frameworks he left behind for making sense of high strangeness. Along the way, Kelly and Jay connect Keel’s legacy to today’s debates, government narratives, and their own upcoming fieldwork.
Highlights include:
Keel’s unique approach: using news clipping services and personal witness interviews to identify patterns across thousands of reports.
His skepticism toward the extraterrestrial hypothesis and why he suspected UFOs were closer to home than another planet.
The “paraphysical hypothesis” and Keel’s concept of the super-spectrum, where UFOs and entities may be part of a hidden ecology overlapping our own.
Insights into window areas—locations where high strangeness clusters—and how this connects to modern hotspots.
The role of storytelling, control mechanisms, and myth-making in shaping how humanity perceives the phenomenon.
Why Keel’s outsider perspective continues to challenge both researchers and experiencers today.
Music for Cosmosis is by Michael Rubino. The show is brought to you by SpectreVision Radio.
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Resources & References
Operation Trojan Horse, John Keel:https://www.amazon.com/Operation-Trojan-Horse-Classic-Breakthrough/dp/1938398033/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0
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TIMESTAMPS
05:54 John Keel's Background and Early Career
09:38 Keel's Investigative Approach and Findings
13:40 Skepticism and the Extraterrestrial Hypothesis
20:08 Patterns in UFO Sightings and Flaps
33:38 Regional UFO Flaps and Media Coverage
35:19 Contemporary Ufology and Hotspots
37:23 Patterns in UFO Sightings
40:11 The Paraphysical Hypothesis
43:37 Control Mechanisms and Technological Inspiration
59:07 Color Spectrum and UFO Phenomena
01:09:54 Field Work Inspired by John Keel
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Sep 18, 2025 • 1h 13min
A New Force: Dana Kippel on Plasma, Consciousness, and the Divine Feminine
Dana Kippel, an author and filmmaker known for her insightful work on consciousness, dives deep into the intriguing nature of plasma as a living intelligence. She shares her journey from experiencing trauma to unlocking her intuition through meditative downloads. Dana emphasizes the importance of embracing the feminine aspect of plasma to enhance human potential and navigates the connection between science and spirituality. This captivating conversation redefines our understanding of reality and vulnerability as a superpower.

Sep 11, 2025 • 1h 10min
The Call Is Coming From Inside The House: James Madden on Belief, Doubt, and UFOs
Philosopher James Madden, author of Unidentified Flying Hyperobject, joins the discussion to explore the intricate relationship between belief and doubt in the UFO realm. He raises provocative questions about whether ufology has turned into a form of religion. The conversation highlights the significance of critical thinking and transparency in investigations, urging listeners to embrace uncertainty while seeking better questions. With insights into the psychological challenges within the community, Madden inspires a deeper understanding of this mysterious phenomenon.

Sep 5, 2025 • 1h 35min
Reading Reality: Myth, Time, and the Simulation Hypothesis with LD Deutsch
Laura Deutsch, author of "Time, Myth and Matter," dives deep into the realms of consciousness, mythology, and technology. She explores how myth and physics uniquely interpret reality and highlights the intriguing parallels between the I Ching and binary code. Discussing the Simulation Hypothesis, Deutsch suggests it resembles a creation myth more than scientific theory. She also tackles the paradoxes of time—eternalism versus presentism—and examines the significance of synchronicity in shaping our understanding of existence.

Aug 28, 2025 • 1h 4min
Plasma, Consciousness & the Future of Anomalous Studies
Dive into the captivating realm where plasma meets consciousness! Discover how plasma, a mysterious fourth state of matter, could be key to understanding UFOs and paranormal experiences. Explore Robert Temple's groundbreaking theories and the connection between orb phenomena and intelligence. Engage with discussions on the limits of materialistic viewpoints and how process philosophy can reshape our understanding of reality. This enlightening conversation challenges perceptions of mind, matter, and the enigmatic nature of the universe.

Aug 21, 2025 • 30min
Unfurling The Myth: Narrative As Interface Between Psyche & The Field
A recent workshop at the University of Exeter explored the intriguing idea that plasma might underlie non-biological intelligence. Discussing UFOs as relational events, the conversation highlighted how narratives shape our understanding of these phenomena. Myth and curiosity serve as catalysts for personal transformation, reshaping belief systems through encounters with the unexplained. The Hero's Journey emerges as a powerful metaphor, revealing how unanswerable questions can awaken profound shifts in perspective and promote spiritual growth.

Aug 13, 2025 • 1h 31min
Fourth Wall Phantoms with Joshua Cutchin
In this intriguing conversation, author Joshua Cutchin, known for exploring folklore and high strangeness, dives into the fascinating intersections of consciousness and the supernatural. He discusses the strange tales of UFO researchers and the mystical connections between creativity and the paranormal. Cutchin challenges perceptions of reality through narratives of tulpas and egregores, and shares eerie anecdotes from haunted locations. By weaving mythology with modern experiences, he invites listeners to rethink the boundaries of the unknown.

Aug 12, 2025 • 1min
[Trailer] The New Season of Cosmosis Is Coming Soon
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Aug 11, 2025 • 1h 10min
[The Great Dangerous Books Podcast] Jacques Vallée's 'Messengers of Deception' with Kelly Chase
James Madden, an author and co-host, teams up with Kelly Chase, a writer and researcher, to explore Jacques Vallee's thought-provoking work, 'Messengers of Deception.' They dive into the intricate ways UFO phenomena manipulate belief systems and influence societal narratives. The discussion highlights the psychological effects of these experiences, including ontological shock and the role of the unconscious. They also emphasize the necessity of critical thinking and self-awareness in navigating the complexities of ufology and extraordinary experiences.