Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] [The Great Dangerous Books Podcast] Jacques Vallée's 'Messengers of Deception' with Kelly Chase
Aug 11, 2025
James Madden, an author and co-host, teams up with Kelly Chase, a writer and researcher, to explore Jacques Vallee's thought-provoking work, 'Messengers of Deception.' They dive into the intricate ways UFO phenomena manipulate belief systems and influence societal narratives. The discussion highlights the psychological effects of these experiences, including ontological shock and the role of the unconscious. They also emphasize the necessity of critical thinking and self-awareness in navigating the complexities of ufology and extraordinary experiences.
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Read Vallée Against His Redactions
- Kelly Chase warns Vallée may be an unreliable narrator due to likely clearances and redactions.
- She advises readers to learn to read his redactions to piece together the fuller story.
UFOs As Reality‑Distorting Devices
- Jacques Vallée argues UFOs distort witnesses' reality to change belief systems.
- He suggests the phenomenon may be used by human groups for political manipulation.
UFOs Activate Existing Psychic Imagery
- Jacques Vallée says UFOs trigger imagery already in our psyches rather than only transporting beings.
- James Madden argues this explains why encounters affirm unconscious fantasies and transform belief.
