Kelly Chase, a researcher and documentary maker known for her works like 'Cosmosis: UFOs & A New Reality,' dives deep into the evolving landscape of UFO narratives. She discusses the audience engagement strategies for her latest documentary, shares her thoughts on whistleblowers, and reflects on personal UFO experiences. The conversation touches on the complexities of UFO discourse, the balance between skepticism and optimism for future disclosures, and the intriguing link between spirituality and psychedelia. Chase encourages an open-minded approach to extraordinary claims.