

The Root of All Success with The Real Jason Duncan
The Real Jason Duncan
Welcome to The Root of All Success with The Real Jason Duncan—a podcast where I uncover the real stories behind today's most successful entrepreneurs, creatives, athletes, artists, and leaders. In every episode, I dive deep into honest, unfiltered conversations that reveal how these trailblazers define success, overcome challenges, and craft transformative strategies to excel in their industries. I'm not just your host—I'm an entrepreneur behind 12 thriving ventures and the founder of The Exiter Club, a mastermind community dedicated to living #TheExitLifestyle. I built XOS™ (The Exiter Operating System) to empower business owners to transition from the daily grind to becoming strategic owner-investors, creating a life that blends professional achievement with personal fulfillment. Based in Nashville, Tennessee, my journey—from an 8th-grade history teacher to a serial entrepreneur—has been fueled by a passion for authentic success. Outside of my business interests, you'll find me enjoying motorcycle rides, RV adventures, and cherishing everyday moments with my high school sweetheart of 30 years and our two grown children. My life, both personal and professional, is guided by unwavering faith in Jesus. Tune in on all major podcast platforms and YouTube for actionable insights, fresh perspectives, and inspirational stories that can spark your own journey toward balanced success. And if you’re feeling overwhelmed or burnt out in your business, visit businessburnouttest.com to take our Business Burnout Test and get personalized recommendations to reignite your passion and transform your life.
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May 27, 2025 • 31min
297: Why You Shouldn’t Sell Your Business to Exit It ft. Jason Duncan
What if selling your business isn’t the only way to exit it?
In this special guest episode, Jason Duncan appears on Mr. Biz Radio with Ken Wentworth to explain the power of his Exit Without Exiting strategy. He shares how he went from being a fired schoolteacher to founding 13 businesses, exiting four, and discovering what nearly all entrepreneurs get wrong: building a business that revolves around themselves.
Jason breaks down his XOS Framework, the three tiers of entrepreneurship, and how he helps business owners reclaim their time, multiply value, and finally live a life they control. Whether you're running a 7-figure company or grinding in the weeds, this episode offers the blueprint to break free.
🔑 Takeaways from this episode:
Why most business owners can’t sell—even when they want to
The three tiers of entrepreneurship: operator, manager, investor
How Jason exited a multimillion-dollar company without selling it
Why chasing opportunity leads to burnout
Building the Exiter Club and focusing on legacy
The mindset shift required to scale and step away
SOPs: Why they matter and how most people overcomplicate them
The freedom of building a business that thrives without you
👉 Ready to scale without selling?
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Jason's Website Link
Jason's Social Media
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Linkedin
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May 22, 2025 • 32min
296: How Mitch McGinley Helps Wellness Founders Exit on Their Terms
What if the best thing you ever did for your business… was sell it?
In this episode of The Root of All Success, Jason Duncan sits down with Mitch McGinley, a business broker and exit advisor specializing in boutique fitness, wellness, and health brands. Mitch shares his journey from flipping boutique hotels and running a community yoga studio to helping over 60 wellness business owners sell and scale with confidence.
Now living in Madrid with his family, Mitch reflects on what it takes to exit successfully—profit, systems, and letting go emotionally. Whether you’re thinking of selling your studio or simply want to stop being the center of it, this conversation is packed with clarity, honesty, and practical insights you won’t hear anywhere else.
🔑 Takeaways from this episode:
* Why the best businesses sell without the owner at the center
* How Mitch and his wife sold their yoga studio for nearly 5x their investment
* What most boutique fitness owners get wrong about exits
* The real reason emotional attachment kills deals
* Why selling to the first interested buyer is usually a mistake
* The 3 things buyers look for in a wellness business
* Trends in boutique fitness and wellness M&A
* Why being authentic and debt-free fuels long-term success
👉 Want to exit without regret?
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Who is Mitch McGinley?
Mitch is a business broker and exit planning advisor specializing in boutique fitness, health and wellness. He originally worked in hotel management, and then with an investor who was flipping boutique hotels in San Diego. Shortly thereafter, he and his wife Karson found the opportunity to buy their favorite community yoga studio. During that time he began working with mindbody as education faculty, teaching at mindbody universities all over the world. After successfully selling his studio in 2019, he was licensed as a business broker and merged all of his worlds to help other business owners in this industry maximize their exit. He has helped facilitate over 60 transactions in the past five years, with over $10M in transacted value in 2024 alone. He is currently living in Madrid with his family, having an incredible experience.
Mitch McGinley’s Website Link: https://boutiquefitnessbroker.com/
Mitch McGinley’s Social Media Link:
Instagram: www.instagram.com/@boutiquefitnessbroker
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May 19, 2025 • 27min
295: From Debt-Free to 7 Figures: How Phil Risher Scaled Phlash Consulting Fast
Would you leave a stable job, live in a school bus, and launch a business on your honeymoon?
That’s exactly what Phil Risher did. In this in-person episode of The Root of All Success, Jason Duncan sits down with the founder of Phlash Consulting to uncover how he went from paying off $30K in student loans to building a 7-figure marketing agency serving home service businesses—all within a few years.
Phil breaks down how solving a single local business’s problem sparked an entire company, the lead management mistakes most owners make, and how systematizing marketing helped multiple clients scale and exit. If you're a service-based founder ready to grow fast (without burning out), this episode is packed with game-changing insights.
🔑 Takeaways from this episode:
Why lead management is more important than lead generation
How Phil scaled by “firing himself” from every role
The Flash Customer Journey Framework: Visibility, Conversion, Retargeting
How to set your business up for a high-value acquisition
The two biggest marketing mistakes home service businesses make
Why most business owners overspend without tracking ROI
How he bootstrapped and scaled with no debt or outside funding
Why a calm, debt-free life created the foundation for fast growth
👉 Want to grow your business without guesswork?
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Who is Phil Risher?
Phil Risher is the founder of Phlash Consulting, a digital marketing firm focused on helping home service businesses like HVAC, plumbing, and electrical companies grow their sales and maintain full schedules. After paying off $30,000 in student loans and saving $60,000 by age 25, Phil transitioned from working at Enterprise Rent-A-Car to entrepreneurship. He used his skills in SEO, email marketing, and social media to help a local duct cleaning company triple its profits, leading to the creation of Phlash Consulting.
Today, Phlash Consulting is a seven-figure business that has helped clients scale their revenue by millions and achieve successful exits at 5-10x multiples. Phil’s insights have been featured in Forbes, CNBC, Business Insider, and Yahoo Finance, and he has appeared on industry-leading podcasts like "Jobber’s Masters of Home Services" and "The Green Industry Podcast." His team now serves businesses across North America
and Canada, helping them grow through data-driven digital marketing strategies.
Phil Risher’s Website Link: https://phlashconsulting.com/
Phil Risher’s Social Media Link:
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@phlashconsulting/videos
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May 15, 2025 • 36min
294: How One Man Scaled a Startup with $0 in Marketing ft. Don Sevcik
What if you could build a tech company used by millions—without spending a dollar on marketing or hiring a team?
In this in-person episode of The Root of All Success, Jason Duncan sits down with Don Sevcik, founder of MathCelebrity.ai, a math tutoring AI platform serving over 8 million users annually—organically.
Don shares how he turned a tutoring side hustle into a global platform using SEO, smart design, and relentless focus. From writing books to battling Common Core confusion, Don’s journey proves you don’t need VC money, paid ads, or a big team to make a massive impact.
🔑 Takeaways from this episode:
How Don bootstrapped a global edtech company with zero ad spend
Why pattern recognition (not hype) is the key to smart scaling
What sparked the idea for MathCelebrity.ai
How SEO outperformed every growth hack
What authorship taught him about product simplicity
Why entrepreneurs should master inversion thinking
The secret to creating sticky user experiences
Staying lean, focused, and global—without burnout
👉 Want to grow your impact without growing your overhead?
💡 Subscribe to The Root of All Success and visit mathcelebrity.ai to explore Don’s work.
Don Sevcik’s Website Link: www.liquidliner.com
Don Sevcik’s Social Media Link:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/Mathcelebrity
Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/donsevcik
YouTube: www.youtube.com/c/Mathcelebrity
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May 13, 2025 • 40min
293: How Jason Duncan Built a Business That Runs Itself
Imagine losing your dream job—and turning that loss into a multi-million-dollar business you barely have to operate.
In this special crossover episode, Jason Duncan joins Mike Stohler on The Richer Geek Podcast to share how he went from laid-off schoolteacher to award-winning entrepreneur and founder of the Exeter Club. Jason dives deep into how most entrepreneurs accidentally build themselves into prisons—and how he created the Exit Without Exiting method to help business owners build wealth, freedom, and legacy without burning out.
Jason shares honest lessons about mistakes he made, the power of focus, and why exiting doesn’t have to mean selling. If you're an entrepreneur stuck in the grind, this conversation will give you a proven blueprint to scale smartly—and live fully.
🔑 Takeaways from this episode:
Why “job security” is a myth—and how to pivot wisely
How Jason accidentally built a business with no exit plan
The three tiers of entrepreneurship: operator, manager, investor
Why 97% of entrepreneurs stay stuck in operator mode
How Exit Without Exiting became Jason’s signature method
Why diversifying too fast can ruin your momentum
How to scale through systems, not sacrifice
The mindset shift every founder needs to achieve true freedom
👉 Tired of building a business that owns you?
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Jason's Website Link
Jason's Social Media
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Linkedin
Youtube
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May 8, 2025 • 52min
292: How Tyler Dunagin Built a 1000% Growth Company by Solving His Own Problem
What if your biggest frustration at work could become your biggest opportunity?
In this in-person episode of The Root of All Success, Jason Duncan sits down with Tyler Dunagin, founder of TurnServe, to explore how he left a comfortable corporate career, solved a personal business pain point, and scaled a company to over 1000% growth—landing on the Inc. 5000 list.
Tyler shares how TurnServe evolved from a simple turnover services company into a scalable platform with self-performing brands, private equity backing, and a growing national footprint. If you're stuck inside a system that isn't working, Tyler’s story will inspire you to build something better, think bigger, and create lasting impact through entrepreneurship.
🔑 Takeaways from this episode:
Why you should start businesses to solve real-world problems
How Tyler scaled TurnServe without losing culture or quality
The importance of building systems with the end in mind
What most entrepreneurs get wrong about scaling fast
How to attract private equity backing (and what investors really look for)
Why culture and innovation must evolve together
How Tyler views entrepreneurship as his professional playground
Lessons on managing explosive growth while maintaining mission focus
👉 Ready to turn your frustration into your fortune?
Who is Tyler Dunagin?
In 2018, Tyler Dunagin founded Turnserv, a platform delivering market-leading solutions and partnering with some of the largest property management companies in the industry. Under Tyler's leadership as CEO, the company achieved over 1,000% revenue growth, expanded to multiple locations, and secured private equity backing. These milestones landed Turnserv within the top 500 of the Inc. 5000 list, a prestigious list celebrating America’s fastest-growing companies. Throughout his entrepreneurial journey, Tyler has been nominated for multiple industry awards, including EY's Entrepreneur of the Year, recognized by Crain's and numerous other publications, and has appeared as a guest on some of the most prominent podcasts in the field.
Tyler began his professional journey managing single-family real estate investments and flipping houses for investors. By his mid-twenties, he was overseeing $250 million in assets under management in the multifamily real estate market. In his late twenties, he left corporate America to pursue an opportunity to provide innovative solutions for the multifamily market he knew so well.
Tyler Dunagin’s Website Link: www.liquidliner.com
Tyler Dunagin’s Social Media Link:https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerdunagin/
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May 5, 2025 • 40min
291: How Dustin Heiner Built Wealth Through Real Estate After Getting Laid Off
Imagine getting laid off from a "secure" government job right after welcoming your fourth child—and turning that setback into a thriving real estate investing empire! In this special in-person interview, Jason Duncan sits down with Dustin Heiner, founder of Master Passive Income, to reveal how he went from employee to financially free entrepreneur through passive income strategies.
Dustin shares how one $317 rental property became the catalyst for quitting his 9-to-5 at age 37, how to build financial freedom without risking everything, and the biggest mindset shifts that helped him succeed in the competitive world of real estate.
👉 Whether you're just getting started in real estate investing or looking for inspiration to leave your corporate job behind, this episode will show you how to create real wealth and live life on your own terms!
🔑 Takeaways:
How Dustin bought his first rental property with little risk
The real steps to achieving passive income fast
Why traditional "job security" is often a myth
How mindset impacts your wealth-building journey
First action steps if you want to create financial independence through real estate
Who is Dustin Heiner?
Dustin Heiner is a real estate investing expert and the Founder of MasterPassiveIncome.com and the Real Estate Wealth Builders Conference (REWBCON).
Becoming successfully unemployed at 37 by investing in real estate rental properties, he is now on a mission to help 1 MILLION people invest in real estate and achieve financial freedom. Through his work at MasterPassiveIncome.com and REWBCON, Dustin Heiner has become one of the leading experts in real estate rental properties.
Dustin started MasterPassiveIncome.com from his home in 2015 while working full-time, being married with four children, owning and operating two other businesses, and actively investing in real estate. He is passionate about his mission to help others become successfully unemployed and never need a job again.
Since then, Dustin Heiner has helped countless people start investing in real estate rental properties. Even for those living in expensive cities, he teaches strategies to invest successfully across the country.
Dustin Heiner’s Website Link: www.masterpassiveincome.com
Dustin Heiner’s Social Media Link:Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MasterPassiveInc/
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/masterpassiveincome
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May 1, 2025 • 51min
290: How Jason Duncan Built a Million-Dollar Business After Losing His Teaching Job
What would you do if you lost your dream job overnight?
In this special episode, Jason Duncan shares his raw and inspiring journey from schoolteacher to multimillion-dollar entrepreneur. Interviewed by Phil Risher on The Phlash Podcast, Jason walks through the pivotal moments that forced him to leave teaching and launch a business with no prior experience—eventually leading him to create the "Exit Without Exiting" framework that helps entrepreneurs regain their freedom without giving up their companies.
From closing multimillion-dollar lighting contracts without knowing what he was doing, to fighting financial struggles, burnout, and regret, Jason gets real about the ups and downs of entrepreneurship—and how he helps other business owners avoid the same mistakes.
How Jason closed his first multimillion-dollar deal (by accident)
Why relationships and persistence matter more than "knowing it all"
How financial stress nearly stole precious moments with family
The painful lessons from the "eye off the ball" moment
What "Exit Without Exiting" really means and why it matters
Why entrepreneurs must watch their finances like a hawk
How to truly be present in your business and life
The key difference between owner-operators, owner-managers, and owner-investors
👉 If you're an entrepreneur chasing growth but risking burnout, this episode is your blueprint for building wealth—and freedom—on your own terms.
🔑 Takeaways from this episode:
How Jason closed his first multimillion-dollar deal (by accident)
Why relationships and persistence matter more than "knowing it all"
How financial stress nearly stole precious moments with family
The painful lessons from the "eye off the ball" moment
What "Exit Without Exiting" really means and why it matters
Why entrepreneurs must watch their finances like a hawk
How to truly be present in your business and life
The key difference between owner-operators, owner-managers, and owner-investors
Jason's Website Link
Jason's Social Media
Facebook
Instagram
Linkedin
Youtube
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Apr 28, 2025 • 37min
289: How Eddie Wilson Sold 100+ Companies and Found Purpose Beyond Wealth
What happens when you sell over 100 companies and still feel empty inside?
In this episode of The Root of All Success, Jason Duncan sits down with Eddie Wilson, known as The King of Exits, to talk about the reality behind selling businesses, what most entrepreneurs miss when chasing success, and how to build something truly lasting—personally and professionally.
Eddie has owned more than 125 businesses and exited over 100 of them. But it wasn’t until he hit rock bottom emotionally—after selling 76 companies for over $1 billion—that he realized real success isn’t about exits. It’s about time, purpose, and intentionality. Eddie shares hard-earned lessons about financial readiness, emotional health, and the legacy-building mindset that changed his life.
🔑 Takeaways from this episode:
What Eddie learned from losing $30M in his first unintentional exit
The five phases of business every entrepreneur goes through
Why most business owners build a prison they can’t escape
How to systematize your business using the Empire Operating System
The three pillars of time, wealth, and purpose—and why purpose matters most
The truth about post-exit depression (and how to avoid it)
How philanthropy became Eddie’s most fulfilling venture
Why you need to stop chasing money and start tracking time
👉 If you're building a business but feel stuck, overwhelmed, or unfulfilled—this episode will shift your mindset.
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Who is Eddie Wilson?
Eddie Wilson is a businessman known as the “King of Exits.” He has owned over 125 companies and exited over 85 of them successfully. His current private equity firm Collective Influence has significant holdings as well. The PE firm owns Think Realty, American Association of Private Lenders, Apticode, FitCon, Tax-Free Crypto, Because Coffee, The Power Room, Money Is, and around 10 other companies.
Eddie is also known for creating an operating system that systematically manages his company's growth, allowing him the greatest odds for success. His operating system is known as the Empire Operating System
With all of his success in his 40s, he has turned his efforts to humanitarian non-profit activities with his foundation, Impact Others.
Eddie Wilson’s Website Link: https://aspiretour.com/
Eddie Wilson’s Social Media Link:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eddiewilsonofficial/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/eddie_wilson3
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/EddieWilsonIII
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eddiewilsonofficial/
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Apr 24, 2025 • 41min
288: How Jack Bosch Turned Land Flipping Into Generational Wealth
What if the path to generational wealth didn’t involve tenants, toilets, or even touching real estate?In this episode of The Root of All Success, Jason Duncan welcomes Jack Bosch, a German immigrant who came to the U.S. with two suitcases and no money—and went on to build a real estate empire through land flipping. Jack shares how he developed the Forever Cash model, a system for transforming short-term gains into lifelong wealth.You’ll hear how he and his wife flipped over 5,000 land deals, navigated the 2008 crash without going under, and shifted from quick flips to a wealth strategy that will outlast generations. If you’re still chasing quick cash, this episode may just flip your mindset.🔑 Takeaways from this episode:
What “Forever Cash” means and why it changes the wealth game
How land flipping works (and why it’s an untapped goldmine)
The biggest misconceptions about land vs. house flipping
Jack’s #1 rule for building wealth without burnout
Why living below your means is the real flex
The mindset shift from earning to accumulating
How to delay gratification—and enjoy it
Building a business your kids want to inherit
👉 Ready to build wealth that outlives you?💡 Subscribe to The Root of All Success and share this episode with anyone chasing more than just the next paycheck.Who is Jack Bosch?Jack Bosch is a real estate investor, financial expert, and bestselling author who turned his journey from arriving in the U.S. with two suitcases into a multi-million-dollar land business. Originally from Germany, he and his wife, Michelle, have flipped over 5,000 properties and developed the “Forever Cash” model, helping over 1,000 people build wealth through their educational programs. Jack has been featured on top real estate podcasts and is the host of The Jack Bosch Show. With expertise in land flipping, seller financing, and multi-family investing, he has built a following of over 300k on social media.Jack Bosch’s Website Link: www.landprofitgenerator.comJack Bosch’s Social Media Link:https://www.instagram.com/jack.bosch/https://www.facebook.com/joachim.bosch.1Love the show? Subscribe, rate, review & share! https://therealjasonduncan.com/podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices