The CEO’s Guide to Marketing 

Forbes
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Aug 6, 2025 • 42min

The one with McKinsey Senior Partners Kelsey Robinson and Shelley Stewart about the bottom-line consequences of the CEO and CMO disconnect.

In this engaging discussion, Kelsey Robinson and Shelley Stewart, Senior Partners at McKinsey, delve into their research on the troubling disconnect between CEOs and CMOs. They explore how this disconnection hampers growth and highlight the need for alignment in marketing as a strategic investment. The conversation reveals effective strategies to bridge the marketing divide, emphasizing the importance of collaboration, clear metrics, and communication. They also touch on how technology and AI play a role in transforming marketing strategies for better organizational synergy.
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Jul 30, 2025 • 54min

The one with Unilever Chief Growth & Marketing Officer, Esi Eggleston Bracey on what CEOs need to know about driving desirability at scale, the difference between marketing and sales, and how you win hearts, minds—and machines.

Esi Eggleston Bracey, Chief Growth & Marketing Officer at Unilever and a seasoned leader, shares her insights on the intersection of marketing and leadership. She dives into the role of 'desirability' in creating emotional connections with consumers and differentiates marketing from sales. Esi discusses the essential evolution of marketing strategies in today's digital landscape, emphasizing localized branding's impact on global success. She also explores how to engage consumers in an era dominated by bots, highlighting the importance of maintaining emotional ties.
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Jul 23, 2025 • 37min

The one with Cannes Lions CEO Simon Cook on what was said at the Festival’s inaugural Global CEO Forum about why creativity is an organizational imperative, the high cost of “not now”, and why “creativity” may have a brand problem.

In this conversation I sit with Cannes Lions CeO Simon Cook, to talk about what we both heard at the Festival’s inaugural Global CEO Forum, which I moderated and facilitated. Some 50 CEO’s from around the world took part (Under The Chatham House Rule), and in this episode Simon and I explore what we heard from them, creativity as a financial engine, and why CEOs who don’t embrace it may be quietly choosing stagnation.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Jul 16, 2025 • 51min

The one with Meta’s CMO and VP Analytics Alex Schultz about timeless truths, and measuring for incrementality and impact.

In this engaging discussion, Alex Schultz, CMO and VP Analytics at Meta, shares his rich marketing insights gained over a decade shaping the industry. He argues for the death of performance marketing, stressing the need for a full funnel approach. The conversation dives into timeless marketing principles, the balancing act between creativity and data, and the importance of aligning long-term brand vision with immediate marketing efforts. Alex also explores the evolving role of AI in marketing and the significance of effective, concise communication in crafting marketing briefs.
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Jul 9, 2025 • 50min

The one with Rare Beauty CMO Katie Welch on paying attention to attention, ensuring a lipstick is more than a lipstick, and the fine arts of getting someone to do something.

In this episode I talk with Rare Beauty CMO Katie Welch about CEO’s who give CMOs the permission to do what they do best, the lessons beauty-category marketing has for others, and why you have to avoid “tactic soup.”See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Jul 2, 2025 • 51min

The one with the founder and CEO of Alembic Technologies, Tomás Puig, about what to do when you just don't know, cause and effect correlation, and what may be the most advanced marketing attribution model today.

When I first heard Tomás speak at a conference about problem-solving and attribution, I knew I wanted to have him on the show. In this conversation, we talk about marketing's deep hunger for actual solutions, the cost of vanity metrics, and among other things, the difference between certainty and statistics.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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May 8, 2025 • 51min

The one with...um, me, Seth Matlins, about the nature of marketing influence and other things CEOs (and CMOs) might consider.

In this bonus episode, the tables turn and Seth goes from interviewer to interviewee as he sits with Jon Evans, on his Uncensored CMO podcast.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Apr 30, 2025 • 50min

The one with Hasbro CMO Jason Bunge about resetting marketing muscle memory, how to feed the appetite for investment, and his favorite metric to hate.

In this episode I talk with Hasbro‘s first-ever CMO Jason Bunge about working with the c-suite to build marketing capabilities in a 104-year-old-company, the different strategic roles marketing plays across different parts of the business, and the possibilities that can live within constraints.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Apr 23, 2025 • 45min

The one with NFL CMO Tim Ellis on future-proofing the league, Monday Morning Marketing, and why the short-term must always support the long-term.

In this episode, I talk with Tim about creative courage, marketing to and with the Commissioner and owners, and how to both focus on and transcend the game. Note:In the episode, Tim tells us the story of how Volkswagen’s 2011 Super Bowl ad, Darth Vader, came to be. And how it almost didn’t. See the spot that’s been credited with changing Super Bowl advertising here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpL_DcT6ko8See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Apr 17, 2025 • 45min

The one with Fundamentalco founder and CEO Jonny Bauer about how to make a company more valuable.

In this episode, I talk with Jonny Bauer about his thesis on enterprise value creation, one formed by his years as Droga5’s Chief Strategy Officer and Blackstone’s Global Head of Brand Strategy and Transformation. Now, the founder and CEO of Fundamentalco, Jonny’s insights into the upstream role of brand in driving business strategy and not just downstream marketing outputs are well worth every CEO, CFO and Board considering.In the episode, Jonny refers to one of the earliest pieces of work to come from then new agency, Droga5. The 2006 spot for streetwear brand ECKO is known as “Tagging Air Force One.” See it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP0iSJQLfJ4See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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