The one with TIAA Chief Marketing and Communications Officer Micky Onvural about the lessons learned in going from CMO to CEO and CEO to CMO.
Sep 5, 2025
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In this episode Micky, the one-time CEO of Bonobos, and I talk about her experiences on both sides of what’s all too-often a divide, what’s missing in the CEO/CMO conversation, and why company culture should be seen as a pre-requisite for growth.