

The TrainingBeta Podcast: A Climbing Training Podcast
Neely Quinn
Hosted by climber, nutritionist, and mindset coach, Neely Quinn, The TrainingBeta Podcast is a regular conversation with rock climbing’s best and brightest, including pro rock climbers, climbing trainers, and other insightful members of the climbing community. You’ll learn how to train for climbing, how to fuel yourself well for climbing, and mindset strategies to help you perform well on the wall and have a great time doing it. Whether you’re a beginner climber or a seasoned pro, you’ll learn something from these conversations, or at the very least, get really stoked to climb and train.
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Dec 31, 2015 • 1h 17min
TBP 039 :: Dave MacLeod on Training, Injuries, Diet, and Fear
About Dave MacLeod
Dave MacLeod is one of the most famous climbers, having put up many first ascents of sport, boulder, mixed, and trad climbs. Honestly, I'm not going to do him justice with a short introduction of his climbing and career, as he's accomplished so much in his 37 years. So here's his Wikipedia page. Please read it - it's fascinating.
What We Talked About
His climbing career
How he's trained for different projects
How mixed climbing helps him to train for sport and trad
The mistakes most climbers make in their training
Excelling even when the pressure is on
How he deals with fear on scary routes
His secret diet (exposed! woohoo!)
Related Links
Dave's blog: www.davemacleod.blogspot.com
Dave MacLeod on Facebook
Training Programs for You
Check out our Route Climbing Training Program for route climbers of all abilities.
Our other training programs: Training Programs Page.

Dec 16, 2015 • 1h 17min
TBP 038 :: Tom Randall on His Nerdy Training Methods
About Tom Randall
Tom Randall is one of the infamous Wide Boyz offwidth climbers from Sheffield, England. He's climbed 5.14 offwidth, trad, and sport climbs, and he's a professional climbing trainer as well. He and his team at Lattice Training put hard science and historical data from other climbers into their training plans and robust assessments of their clients. He's pretty nerdy, in the best way possible.
What We Talked About
His assessment of Seth's climbing strengths and weaknesses
How he works with clients
Training for crack climbing
Pinky crack drills
Free soloing 3,000 routes
Case study of bouldering client
Sample Assessment of One of Tom's Clients
Intro to "Jack Daniels"
Jack is a 34 year old climber who has always been told by his friends that he has good finger strength, but never quite seems to transfer it to his projects. He either gets pumped too quickly on sport routes that feel within his redpoint ability and falls off when the moves are continuously strenuous, or on long style boulder problems he hits "The power-out wall" at about 60 seconds. He'd like to understand what factors are limiting his physical performance.
--> Assessment feedback for Jack Daniels
Related Links
Lattice Training: www.latticetraining.co.uk
Tom Randall on Facebook
His coaching partner, Ollie
Tom Randall on Instagram
Training Programs for You
Check out our Route Climbing Training Program for route climbers of all abilities.
Our other training programs: Training Programs Page.
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Dec 7, 2015 • 1h 9min
TBP 037 :: Thomasina Pidgeon on Climbing V12 at Age 40
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Date: December 7th, 2015
About Thomasina Pidgeon
Thomasina Pidgeon is a Canadian boulderer - one of the strongest Canadian female climbers, actually, having done over 40 boulders V11 to V12. She's also competed quite a bit, and been quite successful on national and international levels. She does this at the age of 40, all while living out of her van, which she's done since she was 19 years old, and while raising her 9 year-old daughter.
What We Talked About
Van life and being a mom
Her training regimen designed by Steve Maisch
What's different in her climbing now that she's 40
How she trains now vs before she started competing
Her success on a high fat diet
Related Links
Thomasina's website: www.thomasinapidgeon.blogspot.com
Thomasina on Facebook
Thomasina on Instagram
Training Programs for You
Check out our Route Climbing Training Program for route climbers of all abilities.
Our other training programs: Training Programs Page.
Please Review The Podcast on iTunes
Link to the TrainingBeta Podcast on iTunes is HERE.
Please give the podcast an honest review on iTunes here to help the show reach more curious climbers around the world ;)
Photo Credit
Mike Chapman
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Nov 25, 2015 • 1h 14min
TBP 036 :: Steve Bechtel Interview #2
About Steve Bechtel I was honored and excited to interview the great Steve Bechtel for a second time. Steve is a long-time climber and trainer who knows his stuff when it comes to getting strong, catering to individual training needs, and staying lean, among many other things. Steve runs ClimbStrong.com, a website where he writes articles and training programs for climbers. You can subscribe to the site to get full access to all of his info. He also runs a gym in Lander, WY called Elemental Fitness, where he works with climbers and athletes of all kinds.
What We Talked About What makes a good climbing trainer
Confusion about periodization
Confusion about finger training
Repeaters vs. Eva Lopez training
Climbing as training for climbing
Listener questions
Related Links Steve’s website, Climb Strong at www.climbstrong.com
Climb Strong on Facebook: www.facebook.com/climbstrong
Steve’s gym in Lander is Elemental Performance and Fitness at http://lmntl.net
Steve’s book about strength training on trainingbeta.
Training Programs for You Check out our Route Climbing Training Program for route climbers of all abilities.
Our other training programs: Training Programs Page.

Nov 18, 2015 • 1h 3min
TBP 035 :: Isabelle Faus on Sending V14
About Isabelle Faus
Isabelle Faus is a 22 year-old boulderer out of Boulder, CO. (Yes, I know that a lot of my guests are from Boulder, but there are just so many amazing climbers here!) Isabelle climbed her first V14 in South Africa recently, and has done several V13's, including Nuthin' but Sunshine in a day. She also just started sport climbing and did her first 5.14a the other day. She'll tell you all about her climbing, training, and diet in this episode.
What We Talked About
Her bouldering career highlights
How her coach as a child taught her so much about training
Her weekly schedule for workouts and climbing
Exactly what her workouts look like
How she makes it work without sponsors
How she stays injury-free
Lots more
Related Links
Isabelle on Instagram: @Fausey
Isabelle on Island.io
Training Programs for You
Check out our Route Climbing Training Program for route climbers of all abilities.
Our other training programs: Training Programs Page.
FrictionLabs Discount
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Please Review The Podcast on iTunes!
Link to the TrainingBeta Podcast on iTunes is HERE.
Please give the podcast an honest review on iTunes here to help the show reach more curious climbers around the world ;)
Thanks for listening!

Nov 11, 2015 • 1h 1min
TBP 034 :: Justen Sjong on Improving Your Mental Game
About Justen Sjong
Justen Sjong is a prolific climbing coach out of Colorado, who's also had a successful climbing career, having established up to 5.14a big walls with none other than Tommy Caldwell, and crushing 5.14 sport climbs across the globe. He currently works out of Movement Climbing and Fitness in Boulder and does online coaching via www.climbingsensei.com. He has a thing or two to say about climbers improving their mental game and becoming better climbers overall.
What We Talked About
The difference between a climbing coach and a climbing trainer
When to say "take" on routes
How he coaches Alex Puccio
How to increase confidence, and why it's important
How your body language can influence your climbing performance
Lots more
Related Links
Justen's online climbing services: www.climbingsensei.com
Training Programs for You
Check out our Route Climbing Training Program for route climbers of all abilities.
Our other training programs: Training Programs Page.
FrictionLabs Discount
FrictionLabs (my favorite chalk company by far) is offering you a discount on their awesome chalk - woot!
Please Review The Podcast on iTunes!
Link to the TrainingBeta Podcast on iTunes is HERE.
Please give the podcast an honest review on iTunes here to help the show reach more curious climbers around the world ;)
Photo Credit
Andrew Burr Photography
Thanks for listening!

Nov 4, 2015 • 1h 14min
TBP 033 :: Will Anglin on Training Efficiently
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Date: November 4th, 2015
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About Will Anglin
Will Anglin is a 27 year-old climber and head climbing trainer at Earth Treks in Golden, CO. He minored in Exercise Physiology in college and is a certified personal trainer, and he's studied climbing training quite a bit. He trains people in person and online. One of the reasons I wanted to interview him is that he's not only a well-respected trainer, but also a prolific climber himself, having sent V13 and 5.14.
He has a lot to say about training, and this was a dense conversation (in the best way possible).
What we talked about:
The importance of strength training
Difference between strength and power
His weekly training schedule during 50-60 hour work weeks
Whether or not you should train to exhaustion
Why he thinks using a weight vest during campusing is "safer" than not
Who should be campusing
Why he does weighted pull ups and why you should maybe not
Things We Mentioned
Will's website
Tension Climbing (coming soon)
Will's article on finger strength training
I'm doing nutrition consults one-on-one with people again on a limited basis. If you're interested, email neely@trainingbeta.com
Discount on ArmAid
If you haven't heard of the ArmAid yet, definitely give it a look-see. It's a nutcracker-type self-massage tool for your poor, overused arms, and it actually works.
We wrote a glowing review about it here. Use the code "climb" at checkout for a 10% discount!
Training Programs for You
Check out the Route Climbing Training Program for route climbers of all abilities.
Our other training programs: Training Programs Page.
If you'd like to place an ad on the podcast, just email us at info@trainingbeta.com.
Please Review Us on iTunes!
Link to the TrainingBeta Podcast on iTunes is HERE.
Please give the podcast an honest review on iTunes here to help the show reach more curious climbers around the world ;)
Photo Credit
Thanks to Matty Hong for the photo of Jon Cardwell.
Thanks for listening!

Oct 5, 2015 • 1h 7min
TBP 032 :: Nathan Drolet (Average Joe Climber) Trains Smart and Climbs Hard
Date: October 5th, 2015
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About Nathan Drolet
We met Nathan Drolet in the Red River Gorge a couple years ago when his badass girlfriend, Natalie Hawley, was projecting 8 Ball while I was working on Snooker. We ran into them a lot over that season in the Red and in Chattanooga, where they now live.
What I noticed about Nate is that he's a calm, collected, strong, solid climber. He was obviously dedicated to climbing, having moved to the Red to work at Miguel's so he could pursue it full time. He's climbed up to 5.14a and V11, and he won the 2011 24 Hours of Horseshoe Hell. And he's a really nice guy.
When I asked you all a while back for suggestions for "everyday climbers" (ie not pros) whose training has paid off, several people suggested Nate, so of course I had to interview him to find out how he does it.
What We Talked About
How he stays strong living on the road
How he uses breathing to create power and to relax
How he trained back flagging
His new interest in lifting and how it's changed his climbing
Whether or not he runs and why
Diet
Mental training
Training Programs for You
Check out the Route Climbing Training Program for route climbers of all abilities.
Our other training programs: Training Programs Page.
Please Review The Podcast on iTunes!
Link to the TrainingBeta Podcast on iTunes is HERE.
Please give the podcast an honest review on iTunes here to help the show reach more curious climbers around the world ;)
Thanks for listening!

Aug 20, 2015 • 59min
TBP 031 :: Ben Moon on Training and Climbing Through The Decades
Direct Download: LINKDate: August 20th, 2015
About Ben Moon
Ben Moon is an iconic climber from England who's accomplished much in his 40-year climbing career. He's 49 years old and just sent 9a (5.14d) this year, after having put up the first of the same grade in 1990 ("Hubble" in France). He's bouldered up to V14, and he does all this while running a successful climbing company called Moon Climbing and raising a child with his wife. He also created the classic Moon Board and the Moon Fingerboard, designed for the stronger, more massochistic among us.
I wanted to talk to this legend about how he's achieved all of this, and he kindly granted me an interview. By the way, there are 2 Ben Moon's in the climbing world: this English Ben Moon and the videographer/climber Ben Moon who lives in the U.S. and recently made a video about Denali the dog.
What We Talked About
Here's what English Ben Moon and I talked about:
His history as a climber
Hubble, the first 8c+ ever, and how it got upgraded to 9a
Training for and sending 9a at age 49
How he trains in general
His thoughts on the Moon board and the Moon Fingerboard
Whether he's just genetically gifted or if he has to train hard
Training and projecting on a tight schedule
How he's doing on Northern Lights, another 9a
Related Links
Moon Climbing: www.moonclimbing.com
Video interview of Ben Moon on his recent 9a ascent of Rainshadow
Moon Climbing on Facebook
Training Programs for You
Check out the new Route Climbing Training Program for route climbers of all abilities.
Our other training programs: Training Programs Page.
Please Review The Podcast on iTunes!
Link to the TrainingBeta Podcast on iTunes is HERE.
Please give the podcast an honest review on iTunes here to help the show reach more curious climbers around the world ;)
Thanks for listening!

Aug 12, 2015 • 1h 5min
TBP 030 :: Jon Cardwell on How He Climbs Hard Routes and Boulders
Direct Download: LINKDate: August 12th, 2015
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About Jon Cardwell
Jon Cardwell is a 26 year-old Albuquerque native living in Boulder, Colorado, who climbs 5.14d and V15, along with being one of the top male bouldering competitors in the U.S. He's a sponsored climber and also holds jobs as a route setter and youth climbing coach at Movement Climbing and Fitness in Boulder.
I've been hearing all about him crushing Rifle and the Fortress this year, so we sat down and talked about how he trains for that, what he's psyched on right now, and his plans to go back to France this year and finally do Biographie. He's a super humble, sweet and well-spoken guy, and I really enjoyed this conversation with him.
What we talked about:
How he trained for The Game (V15)
How he trains for hard routes
His attempt at Biographie (5.15a) this spring, and what he'll do differently next trip
His successful Rifle season this year, including 5.14a onsights
His unconventional use of the hangboard and campus board
How he gives back as a coach
His thoughts on diet
Things We Mentioned
Jon's Instagram
Jon's Facebook
Discount on ArmAid
If you haven't heard of the ArmAid yet, definitely give it a look-see. It's a nutcracker-type self-massage tool for your poor, overused arms, and it actually works.
We wrote a glowing review about it here. Use the code "climb" at checkout for a 10% discount!
Training Programs for You
Check out the Route Climbing Training Program for route climbers of all abilities.
Our other training programs: Training Programs Page.
If you'd like to place an ad on the podcast, just email us at info@trainingbeta.com.
Please Review Us on iTunes!
Link to the TrainingBeta Podcast on iTunes is HERE.
Please give the podcast an honest review on iTunes here to help the show reach more curious climbers around the world ;)
Photo Credit
Thanks to Matty Hong for the photo of Jon!
Thanks for listening!