

The TrainingBeta Podcast: A Climbing Training Podcast
Neely Quinn
Hosted by climber, nutritionist, and mindset coach, Neely Quinn, The TrainingBeta Podcast is a regular conversation with rock climbing’s best and brightest, including pro rock climbers, climbing trainers, and other insightful members of the climbing community. You’ll learn how to train for climbing, how to fuel yourself well for climbing, and mindset strategies to help you perform well on the wall and have a great time doing it. Whether you’re a beginner climber or a seasoned pro, you’ll learn something from these conversations, or at the very least, get really stoked to climb and train.
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Sep 30, 2020 • 59min
TBP 155 :: Dr. Tyler Nelson on High Volume Power Training
About Tyler Nelson Learn More from Tyler: If you want to work with Dr. Tyler Nelson on an individual basis for injuries or strength training, he offers remote consultations to people all over the world. He also teaches online classes on strength training and injuries. Learn more.
In this interview, Tyler explains why we should be training power differently in climbing than we typically do. Normally, we’re training power at very high intensities as in the campus board. However, in climbing we need to have sustained power output over long periods of time. So he describes how to gain more true power endurance using specific techniques.
Tyler recently wrote an article on this topic for TrainingBeta, called High Volume Power Training for Climbers, and this interview is a supplement to that article. If you haven’t read it yet, and you’re interested in this topic, I highly recommend that you give it a read before or after listening to this interview.
Tyler Nelson has a lot of qualifications, so I’m going to let his website sum those up for you:
Tyler is a second generation chiropractor whose father was a leader in chiropractic sports medicine for many years. In graduate school he did a dual doctorate and masters degree program in exercise science with an emphasis on tendon loading. He completed his masters degree at BYU and was a physician for the athletics department for 4 years out of school. He currently is the owner of Camp4 Human Performance where he treats clients through his license as a chiropractic physician. He also teaches anatomy and physiology at a local college in Utah and is an instructor for the Performance Climbing Coach seminar series and a certified instructor for gobstrong. When he’s not working he’s climbing or hiking outside with his family.
You can find Tyler in Salt Lake City at his clinic, Camp 4 Human Performance, where he tests athletes, creates training programs, and treats all kinds of athletes for injuries.
I met Tyler at Steve Bechtel’s first Performance Climbing Coach Seminar in Lander in May of 2017, where we were both instructors. Since then I’ve done 4 more seminars and 6 other podcast episodes with him:
TBP 149: The Different Roles of Stretching for Climbing
TBP 133: The Simplest Finger Training Protocol with Dr. Tyler Nelson
TBP 084: Injury Rehab and Blood Flow Restriction Training
TBP 098: Isometric Movements to Prime and Test Your Body
TBP 108: Bood Flow Restriction for Injury Healing and Performance
TBP 118: Latest Technology for Finger Training and Performance Testing
TBP 128: Surprising Methods for Healing Tendon Injuries
He is well-spoken and a wealth of knowledge about how the human body responds to climbing and training.
Tyler Nelson Interview Details What high volume power training is good for
How it can improve your overall power and power endurance
Why it’s better for sport climbers than boulderers
Why it’s important to stop training when you lose power
How this kind of training has helped his athletes
What to know about high volume power training and how to use it
Why campus boards need to have a way to take weight off
Tyler Nelson Links Article by Tyler about high volume power training
Personal website: camp4humanperformance.com
Take an online class with Tyler: camp4humanperformance.com/store
Do a consultation with Tyler
Instagram: @c4hp
Facebook: @camp4chiropractic
Learn More from Tyler: If you want to work with Dr. Tyler Nelson on an individual basis for injuries or strength training, he offers remote consultations to people all over the world. He also teaches online classes on strength training and injuries. Learn more.
Training Programs for You Do you want a well-laid-out, easy-to-follow training program that will get you stronger quickly? Here’s what we have to offer on TrainingBeta. Something for everyone…
At-Home Training Program: trainingbeta.com/covid
Personal Training Online: www.trainingbeta.com/mercedes
For Boulderers: Bouldering Training Program for boulderers of all abilities
For Route Climbers: Route Climbing Training Program for route climbers of all abilities
Finger Strength : www.trainingbeta.com/fingers
All of our training programs: Training Programs Page
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Transcript Coming soon.

Aug 24, 2020 • 1h 12min
TBP 154 :: Neely Quinn and Alyssa Neill on Increasing Energy Levels with Nutrition
Neely Quinn and Alyssa Neill, two nutrition practitioners, discuss how to increase energy levels using food, covering topics like carb and protein intake, meal timing, caffeine intake, sleep, and water consumption. They emphasize the importance of carbohydrates for optimal performance and highlight the impact of sleep and water intake on energy levels. They also touch upon the significance of vitamins, meal timing, and fueling strategies for climbers. Overall, they offer valuable insights and practical advice for improving energy levels and fueling for climbing performance.

Aug 12, 2020 • 60min
TBP 153 :: Chelsea Murn on Women’s Specific Training and Nutrition Needs
About Chelsea Murn Chelsea Murn is a Certified Health Coach and a climbing coach at LadyBetaCoaching.com who specializes in females’ training and health needs. She’s also a business coach for females in the climbing community, and in this interview we talk about all of that. Chelsea has caught my eye recently with her blogging at LadyBeta, and because she’s one of the only people talking about women’s specific training needs.
We talked about women’s specific needs in climbing training and performance as well as our specific diet needs. We talk about what we should be training in the different phases of women’s cycles and how hormones affect our physical and emotional states. And we discuss how we can work with our cycles instead of just being annoyed that we have to deal with our periods every month.
We also talk about her business coaching and her climbing coaching services, and how she might be able to help you. Chelsea is extremely knowledgeable and passionate about her climbing and her coaching, and it shows in this interview. I really enjoyed my talk with her and I hope you do too.
Chelsea Murn Interview Details Women’s specific needs with training fr climbing
What estrogen and progesterone do to our bodies
How to accommodate our cycle with our training
The times of the month when we’re most likely to perform well
What we should be eating to support our bodies (different than males)
How to track your cycle
How her business and climbing coaching took off and has become a real career
Chelsea Murn Interview Links Programs by Chelsea at LadyBeta.com
Instagram: @ladybeta.coaching
Blog post about women’s cycles and performance
Books mentioned Beyond the Pill
Period Repair Manual
In the Flo

Jul 29, 2020 • 1h 21min
TBP 152 :: Juliet Hammer on Weight Training and Racism in Climbing
I talk with Juliet Hammer about strength training for climbing using weights, compensating for being a short climber, what to focus on with your training during the pandemic, and racism in the climbing community.

Jul 15, 2020 • 1h 36min
TBP 151 :: Neely Quinn and Alyssa Neill on Body Image and Disordered Eating in Climbers
About Neely Quinn and Alyssa Neill In this episode, I had a conversation with my friend and fellow nutrition practitioner, Alyssa Neill, about body image and disordered eating behaviors in climbers. We both have experienced negative body image and have worked with client on body image and disordered eating behaviors. We discuss candidly our own experiences with it all and provide tips on how to balance your diet to get all the nutrients you need while maintaining your optimal, healthy body composition.
We talk about common behaviors we see in our clients that sabotage their performance and health goals, and how to improve those behaviors. And we provide mental/emotional tools to help deal with negative body image/body dysmorphia. This discussion was a very vulnerable one for me, and I discuss some personal things I’ve never talked about on the podcast before.
Our hope with this episode was multifaceted: 1) we want to bring body image issues more into the open, 2) we want people to learn how to eat in order to avoid common emotional eating pitfalls, and 3) we want people to start re-thinking the “optimal body type” for climbers, and realize that extreme leanness is not the end all be all of climbing hard. It’s also incredibly important to be healthy and happy.
Lastly, if you believe you have an eating disorder or are suffering with disordered eating behaviors, we encourage you to seek help. Whether that’s from a therapist, a nutritionist, a doctor, or all three, there are many resources out there for you. I did an interview with Kate Bennett, who is a therapist who specializes in eating disorders among athletes and she sees clients remotely. Alyssa is also currently taking clients remotely.
Interview Details Our personal stories
Common behaviors we see in clients
Common signs and symptoms of disordered eating
Mental/emotional tools that have helped me
How limiting beliefs about your weight can affect climbing performance
Our thoughts on “Intuitive Eating”
How a balanced eating routine can help with emotional eating
Dilemma of professional climbers
How your hormones are affected by disordered eating
About Me (Neely Quinn, ICNT) A little about me that you might not know…
After completing my Bachelor’s degree in both Psychology and Zoology at the University of Wisconsin at Madison, I completed a 4-year holistic nutrition program called Seven Bowls School of Nutrition, Nourishment, and Healing. I graduated in 2007 as a Certified Integrative Clinical Nutrition Therapist. During my education, I learned about not only nutrition, but Western and Chinese herbs, homeopathy, the psychology of eating, and other alternative practices.
I started practicing nutrition with private clients in 2007, and I’ve been working exclusively with climbers since 2015 to help them optimize their energy levels, body composition, climbing performance, and overall well-being. I was heavily involved in the Paleo nutrition community for a few years, and I was recruited to write The Complete Idiot’s Guide to Eating Paleo, which was published in 2012. I’ve led nutrition seminars online, taught at Bauman College (a certificate program for nutrition), and taught several community classes in person. I’ve been a panelist at several conferences and festivals, including the International Climbers’ Festival in 2017-2019, and PaleoFX. I’m also an instructor for the Performance Climbing Coach seminars with Steve Bechtel et al, and I travel around the country with them to teach people about nutrition for climbers.
Outside of my nutrition life, I’m the owner of TrainingBeta.com and the host of The TrainingBeta Podcast. I live in Longmont, Colorado with my husband and co-founder of TrainingBeta, Seth, and our dog, Zala. I’ve been sport climbing for 20+ years and I’ve worked with my diet extensively to figure out proper fueling and recovery for optimal climbing performance–a lifelong pursuit. For more info about who I am as a climber and a person, check out my personal bio.
About Alyssa Neill, RDN From Alyssa’s website…
In addition to her Didactic Program & Nutrition Science degree from the University of Rhode Island, Alyssa completed her 1300 hour Dietetic Internship at the nation’s leading school for natural medicine and whole-food nutrition, Bastyr University, in Washington.
She has over seven years of personal and professional experience with holistic nutrition, weight loss, fat loss, women’s health, hormone balance with diet, diet and lifestyle modifications, and supplement support. In addition to NourishMEnt Nutrition, she has worked as a Practitioner at Pharmaca Integrative Pharmacy, in the supplement industry, as a Private Chef, in hospitals, in Naturopathic clinics and as a Detoxification / Biotransformation researcher at High Tech Health International, Inc.
She also hosts and teaches at Womxn’s Retreats, Womxn’s Circles & gatherings. She loves cooking and creating, and so she occasionally private chefs for retreats. She leads rituals, guided meditation, writes for Climbing Magazine and for Gnarly Nutrition. She is also a sport climber and a boulderer, and she works with climbers as well as all kinds of nutrition clients.
For more info about Alyssa or to work with her as a client, visit her website at www.nourishmentnutrition.com.
Links Warning signs and symptoms of Eating Disorders
Climbing Magazine Article: Disordered Eating Poses a Danger to Climbers
Dialectical Behavior Therapy: Check the Facts Worksheet
Dialectical Behavior Therapy: Opposite Action Worksheet
Dialectical Behavior Therapy: Radical Acceptance Worksheet
RED-S resources: Podcast Interview with Marisa Michael, RD
Mina Leslie-Wujastyk’s article about her experience
Alyssa Neill
Instagram: @nourishment_nutrition
Website: www.nourishmentnutrition.com
Summer Sale! 25% Off All Training Programs and eBooks Use code: summer at checkout for 25% off all training programs from July 15-July 21, 2020.
At-Home Training Program ebook
Finger Training Programs
Injury Protocols
All of our training programs
NOT APPLICABLE for Remote Coaching with Matt Pincus or Sport Psychology Sessions with Dr. Chris.

Jun 16, 2020 • 50min
TBP 150 :: Matt Pincus on Returning to Climbing after a Long Break
I talk with Matt Pincus about how to return to climbing after a long break. We discuss everything from frustrations about being weak to reassessing goals.

Jun 2, 2020 • 58min
TBP 149 :: Dr. Tyler Nelson on the Role of Stretching for Climbers
Dr. Tyler Nelson discusses the role of stretching for climbers and the different types of stretching interventions. He emphasizes the importance of improving range of motion in the shoulders and personalized interventions based on an athlete's morphology. The podcast also explores the importance of education and strength training for tendon injuries.

May 4, 2020 • 1h 22min
TBP 148 :: Neely Quinn and Alyssa Neill on Nutrition for Climbers during Quarantine and Beyond
Topics include personalized food strategies for athletes, getting enough protein on a plant-based diet, discussion on supplementation for climbers during quarantine, supplementation for individual needs, intermittent fasting benefits and considerations, nutrition for women climbers, and a wrap-up with contact information and class announcement.

Apr 9, 2020 • 1h 18min
TBP 147 :: Steve Bechtel, Kris Hampton, and Tom Randall on Best Practices for Training at Home
In this interview, I talked with trainers Steve Bechtel, Kris Hampton, and Tom Randall about how they're guiding their clients to train at home during the COVID-19 pandemic.

Mar 24, 2020 • 1h 26min
TBP 146 :: Matt Pincus on Climbing Training at Home During COVID-19
I talk with Matt Pincus about how to approach train at home during COVID-19, how we're training, our recommended equipment, and some workouts you can do.