

The TrainingBeta Podcast: A Climbing Training Podcast
Neely Quinn
Hosted by climber, nutritionist, and mindset coach, Neely Quinn, The TrainingBeta Podcast is a regular conversation with rock climbing’s best and brightest, including pro rock climbers, climbing trainers, and other insightful members of the climbing community. You’ll learn how to train for climbing, how to fuel yourself well for climbing, and mindset strategies to help you perform well on the wall and have a great time doing it. Whether you’re a beginner climber or a seasoned pro, you’ll learn something from these conversations, or at the very least, get really stoked to climb and train.
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Jul 14, 2021 • 1h 1min
TBE 170: Joy Black On Training During Pregnancy
In the episode, Joy explains how to stay empowered as a pregnant athlete, a brief breakdown of what changes occur during each trimester, and most importantly, she provides direction on what you should learn more about as a pregnant athlete. Joy also discusses the importance of strength training during pregnancy with key consideration of the pelvic floor, diaphragm, and deep core muscles. She also addresses how important of a factor mindset is during pregnancy and normalizes a lot of the common hurdles that women face during the “season” of pregnancy.
Joy Black, B.A., NASM CPT is a Certified Personal Trainer and Pregnancy and Postnatal Exercise Specialist/Athleticism Coach. She is also an avid climber as well as runner and importantly to this conversation, a mother of two!
Joy Black Interview Details Important things to know as pregnant athlete
Strengthening the deep core, diaphragm, and pelvic floor to support your body during pregnancy
General overview on what to expect during each of the trimesters
Importance of staying empowered and focusing on what you can be doing – which is a lot
Considerations while climbing to help minimize additional pressure on an already strained system
What is diastasis and how new research is helping women get back to strengthening the core sooner
Mindset considerations and potential hurdles plus insight on how to stay focused on your own journey
Pelvic Floor PT’s and why you should have one as part of your team
How our bodies are incredibly resilient and how pregnancy does not mean your athletic career and goals will be limited
Joy Black Links Instagram @calliejoyblack
Email: joy@trainedbyjoy.com
Training Programs for You Do you want a well-laid-out, easy-to-follow training program that will get you stronger quickly? Here’s what we have to offer on TrainingBeta. Something for everyone…
At-Home Training Program: trainingbeta.com/covid
Personal Training Online: www.trainingbeta.com/coaching
For Boulderers: Bouldering Training Program for boulderers of all abilities
For Route Climbers: Route Climbing Training Program for route climbers of all abilities
Please Review The Podcast on iTunes Please give the podcast an honest review on iTunes here to help the show reach more curious climbers around the world.

Jun 9, 2021 • 1h 21min
TBP 169 :: Dr. Tyler Nelson on New Insights for Finger Training
About Tyler Nelson UPDATE: Matt Pincus recently created a new bouldering program with 3 levels to choose from. In this non-linear training program, you’ll train strength, skills, power, and work capacity. Learn more about the program.
In this interview, Tyler explains how we should be training our fingers for our individual needs based on his latest research. By utilizing various testing he has discovered that our hand size and ability to recover can be a factor in which protocols are likely to work best. He also answers a lot of commonly asked questions and gives his opinion on various topics around hangboarding and more.
Tyler Nelson has a lot of qualifications, so I’m going to let his website sum those up for you:
Tyler is a second generation chiropractor whose father was a leader in chiropractic sports medicine for many years. In graduate school he did a dual doctorate and masters degree program in exercise science with an emphasis on tendon loading. He completed his masters degree at BYU and was a physician for the athletics department for 4 years out of school. He currently is the owner of Camp4 Human Performance where he treats clients through his license as a chiropractic physician. He also is an instructor for the Performance Climbing Coach seminar series and a certified instructor for gobstrong. When he’s not working he’s climbing or hiking outside with his family.
You can find Tyler in Salt Lake City at his clinic, Camp 4 Human Performance, where he tests athletes, creates training programs, and treats all kinds of athletes for injuries.
This is my first interaction with Tyler, apart from listening to all his other podcasts with a pen and notepad. His ability to question what we take for granted and provide relevant research is unparalleled, and I couldn’t have been more psyched to have the opportunity to ask him a ton of questions. While I am new to the podcast you could say Tyler is a bit of a staple around here. He is well-spoken and a wealth of knowledge about how the human body responds to climbing and training.
Other Episodes with Tyler
TBP 162: Dr. Tyler Nelson on Endurance Training for Fingers
TBP 155: Dr. Tyler Nelson on High Volume Power Training
TBP 149: The Different Roles of Stretching for Climbing
TBP 133: The Simplest Finger Training Protocol with Dr. Tyler Nelson
TBP 084: Injury Rehab and Blood Flow Restriction Training
TBP 098: Isometric Movements to Prime and Test Your Body
TBP 108: Bood Flow Restriction for Injury Healing and Performance
TBP 118: Latest Technology for Finger Training and Performance Testing
TBP 128: Surprising Methods for Healing Tendon Injuries
Tyler Nelson Interview Details How our hand size can determine what we should or shouldn’t do on a hangboard
How knowing our rate of recovery can save us tons of time
Results he’s seeing with clients
General advice on what to do if you have a sore finger
When to do this during training/performance cycles
General hangboarding questions answered
What forms of training he would love to see go extinct
The importance of appropriate training load
Explanations on exciting new research regarding connective tissue
Tyler Nelson Links Personal website: camp4humanperformance.com
Take an online class with Tyler: camp4humanperformance.com/store
Do a consultation with Tyler
Instagram: @c4hp
Facebook: @camp4chiropractic
Learn More from Tyler: If you want to work with Dr. Tyler Nelson on an individual basis for injuries or strength training, he offers remote consultations to people all over the world. He also teaches online classes on strength training and injuries. Learn more.
Training Programs for You Do you want a well-laid-out, easy-to-follow training program that will get you stronger quickly? Here’s what we have to offer on TrainingBeta. Something for everyone…
At-Home Training Program: trainingbeta.com/covid
Personal Training Online: www.trainingbeta.com/coaching
For Boulderers: Bouldering Training Program for boulderers of all abilities
For Route Climbers: Route Climbing Training Program for route climbers of all abilities
Finger Strength : www.trainingbeta.com/fingers
All of our training programs: Training Programs Page

Apr 28, 2021 • 60min
TBP 168 :: Coach Alex Stiger on Training Methods for Females
Females in Climbing In this episode I talk with Coach Alex Stiger about how females can train more efficiently and effectively using their menstrual cycle as a guide.
Alex Stiger is a dedicated climber who lives in Longmont, Colorado. She’s sent up to 5.13d and is an avid boulderer. She improved her climbing very quickly using efficient training. She is a Certified Personal Trainer, Sports Performance Coach, TRX certified, and she’s completed Stacy Sims’ Women Are Not Small Men course.
In this episode we talk all about the specific needs of females in training for climbing. We cover topics like what to expect during certain weeks of your cycle, how to train during each of them, and why Alex (and so many females) was in denial about women needing to train differently than men for so long.
FREE Women’s Train Smarter Challenge Starts Next Week On Monday, May 3rd, 2021 through Friday the 7th, Alex will be hosting a challenge for females that will help you learn how to train for your body’s specific needs. It’s completely free, and even if you can’t make the live calls we’ll send the recordings out to you.
Schedule of Events Day 1: Tracking your period + How to plan your week
Day 2: Myths about Women’s Strengths and Weaknesses + Workout
Day 3: Female mindset – how hormones affect our performance mindset + tools to still perform our best
Day 4: How (and when) Women Should Strength Train + Workout
Day 5: How to use goals to create a map for success
To learn more about the event and to sign up absolutely FREE, click the button below.
LEARN ABOUT THE CHALLENGE FOR WOMEN Alex Stiger Interview Details Why we can’t train like small men
How changes in our hormones throughout the month can guide our training
Being in denial about being a woman in sport
How we can do better as women and as coaches
How everything she knew about her menstrual cycle was in hindsight before
Myths she’s held as a woman
Fear and pain sensitivity the week before period
Alex Stiger Interview Links Join the Challenge for Free
Instagram: @alex.stiger

Apr 15, 2021 • 1h 11min
TBP 167: Coach Lauren Abernathy on Succeeding at More Than One Sport
About Lauren Abernathy Lauren Abernathy is a climbing coach out of Salt Lake City who recently left her corporate job to be a full-time coach. You can find her at www.goodsprayclimbing.com. In this interview we talk about how her transition to being a full-time coach has been for her (spoiler: it’s going really well and she loves it). Lauren is a passionate skier as well as a climber, so we also talk about how she’s learned to effectively do both at the same time.
She’s had some great success with her clients, many of whom don’t have much time for training, so she lets us in on some tips for how to train when you’re super busy with other stuff. This one is full of little nuggets of wisdom that you can apply to your life right now, and Lauren’s excitement and passion for climbing is infectious. I really enjoyed talking with her.
If you want to learn more from Lauren… She’s offering $100 off her new Crush It: Sport Climbing training program right now. Or you can check out her other services on her site.
Lauren Abernathy Interview Details Going from corporate world to full-time climbing coach
How to ski and train for climbing at the same time
Minimalist finger strength training success stories
Tips for busy climbers on how to fit training into schedule
The biggest lessons she’s learned through coaching people
Lauren Abernathy Links www.goodsprayclimbing.com
Instagram: @goodspraycoaching
Her new sport climbing training program
Please Review The Podcast on iTunes Please give the podcast an honest review on iTunes here to help the show reach more curious climbers around the world.

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Mar 11, 2021 • 1h 14min
TBP 166: ClimbWell Founders on Balancing Climbing and Life
About ClimbWell ClimbWell is a new organization founded by Remy Franklin, Gaby Colletta, and Blake Cason whose mission is to provide resources for climbers to help them grow in their climbing and in life in general. Remy is a life coach, Gaby is a Meditation + Yoga Instructor and Ayurvedic Health Counselor, and Blake is a Wellness Coach, and they are all passionate about climbing.
They have a 4-day retreat coming up in April in Veyo, Utah that will help climbers with the following topics: Befriending Fear
Performance Climbing
Rock-Life Balance
Art of Attention
Successful Climbing Goals
Yoga for Climbers
They’re offering 10% off for TrainingBeta listeners using the code “trainingbeta10” and you can find more about the event in the link below:
LEARN MORE ABOUT THE CLIMBWELL RETREAT I wanted to ask them about the basics of what they’ll be teaching at the retreat, so I asked all 3 of them to be on the show. All of these topics are so relevant to all of us, but we focused a lot on finding balance in your life while also being passionate about climbing.
Please visit their website to find out more about what they teach and about the retreat at www.climbwell.co.
ClimbWell Interview Details What people will get out of the retreat
Finding balance in your life while being passionate about climbing
Dealing with fear in climbing
Wheel of Life Coaching Tool
Climbing as an addiction – how to find balance
How are values can guide our actions appropriately
Visualization practice
How to find happiness
How to stop being so black and white about climbing and life in general
ClimbWell Links ClimbWell Retreat (Use “trainingbeta10” for 10% off): www.climbwell.co/retreat
Climbwell Website: www.climbwell.co
Gaby’s personal website: www.gabycolletta.com
Remy’s personal website: www.remyfranklin.com
Blake’s personal website: www.startyourpivot.com
Instagram: @climbwell.co
Remy’s 1st interview on TrainingBeta
Training Programs for You Do you want a well-laid-out, easy-to-follow training program that will get you stronger quickly? Here’s what we have to offer on TrainingBeta…
Personal Coaching Online
For Boulderers of All Abilities
For Route Climbers of All Abilities
Finger Strength
All of our Training Programs
Please Review The Podcast on iTunes Please give the podcast an honest review on iTunes here to help the show reach more curious climbers around the world.
Transcript Coming soon…

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Mar 8, 2021 • 1h 5min
TBP 165: Matt Pincus on Training for Bouldering
About Matt Pincus Announcement: Matt recently created a new bouldering program with 3 levels to choose from. In this non-linear training program, you’ll train strength, skills, power, and work capacity. Learn more about the program. In this interview, I talk with Matt Pincus about how to train for bouldering and we explain our new bouldering training program. Matt is our in-house Remote Climbing Coach at TrainingBeta, and he’s an expert at training for bouldering, having sent up to V12 and helped his clients make huge gains. Matt and I recently created a new Bouldering Training Program using all of the knowledge Matt has gained through seminars, studying, and working with clients since 2017.
In this interview, we talk about the methods he uses with his clients and how the bouldering training program is structured. Whether you use our new bouldering training program or not, this interview will help you understand how to structure a training program aimed at improving bouldering strength, power, and work capacity.
CHECK OUT THE NEW BOULDERING PROGRAM Matt Pincus Interview Details Our new training program and why we changed it
Getting away from training according to grades and more according to training experience
Some examples of successful programs with his clients
How to structure an effective bouldering training program
How to level up your training over time
Why to train strength, power, skills, and power capacity all at once
How to train while trying to perform well outside
Matt Pincus Interview Links New Bouldering Program
Train with Matt: www.trainingbeta.com/matt
Matt’s Instagram: @mpincus87
Training Programs for You Do you want a well-laid-out, easy-to-follow training program that will get you stronger quickly? Here’s what we have to offer on TrainingBeta. Something for everyone…
Bouldering Training Program
Finger Training Programs (code: “home” for 25% off)
Injury Protocols
All of our training programs
Please Review The Podcast on iTunes Please give the podcast an honest review on iTunes here to help the show reach more curious climbers around the world.

Feb 8, 2021 • 1h 11min
TBP 164 :: Alex Stiger and Neely Quinn on Getting through Injuries without Losing Your Mind
About Alex Stiger Coach Alex Stiger recently had surgery on her finger to repair a ligament she tore when she accidentally smashed it on a hold while bouldering. I also just had surgery on my wrist (same surgeon, one month apart), so we’ve been in almost daily communication about our progress, frustrations, and small victories as we recover.
Between the two of us, we’ve had a handful of pretty serious injuries, so we thought we’d discuss how we’ve dealt with those setbacks and the lessons we’ve learned along the way. It can be difficult to stay motivated and take care of yourself when all you really want to be doing is climbing. It can feel sort of like punishment sometimes, but the main things to remember are that you’ll get through it and you can (usually) become just as strong or stronger than you were pre-injury. In the meantime, we’ll tell you how we have learned to honestly enjoy being injured sometimes.
Alex Stiger is a Certified Personal Trainer, Sports Performance Coach, and Head Coach at Movement Climbing + Fitness in Boulder Colorado. Alex spends most of her week working with clients of all levels and ages to help them reach their climbing goals. She has climbed 5.13d and is working towards her goal of climbing 5.14. If you’d like to work with her doing remote coaching, you can find more info on that at www.trainingbeta.com/alex.
Alex Stiger Interview Details Brief overview of our injuries
What our recovery times are/were
What we’ve been doing to stay psyched and happy despite injury
Why it’s important to still be around climbing if it’s part of your social life
Strengthening other weaknesses while your injury heals
The frustrations of the medical industry
Why we wish we would’ve sought help earlier
Alex Stiger Interview Links Work with Alex as your coach
Instagram: @alex.stiger
1st Interview with Alex on the podcast
2nd Interview with Alex: How Getting Stronger Made Her a Better Coach

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Jan 20, 2021 • 1h 9min
TBP 163 :: Eric Hörst on Training for Climbers Over 35
Eric Hörst shares insights on training for climbers over 35, discussing recovery support, physiological changes with age, slowing aging, avoiding excessive training, importance of sleep, and declining recovery abilities. He emphasizes personalized training, self-awareness, and balanced nutrition. Also, he delves into his climbing-specific nutrition products and tailored training programs for older climbers.

Jan 7, 2021 • 56min
TBP 162 :: Dr. Tyler Nelson on Endurance Training for Fingers
About Tyler Nelson Learn More from Tyler: If you want to work with Dr. Tyler Nelson on an individual basis for injuries or strength training, he offers remote consultations to people all over the world. He also teaches online classes on strength training and injuries. Learn more.
In this interview, Tyler explains how we should be training our fingers for endurance climbing. Normally, we’re training strength or strength endurance on the hangboard by hanging with bodyweight, a pulley system, or weight attached to our bodies. However, Tyler talks about how we can just pull on the hangboard, without our feet leaving the ground, and increase our reps in order to train for long, endurance climbs.
Tyler recently wrote an article on this topic for TrainingBeta, called To Pull or Hang, and this interview is a supplement to that article. If you haven’t read it yet, and you’re interested in this topic, I highly recommend that you give it a read before or after listening to this interview.
Tyler Nelson has a lot of qualifications, so I’m going to let his website sum those up for you:
Tyler is a second generation chiropractor whose father was a leader in chiropractic sports medicine for many years. In graduate school he did a dual doctorate and masters degree program in exercise science with an emphasis on tendon loading. He completed his masters degree at BYU and was a physician for the athletics department for 4 years out of school. He currently is the owner of Camp4 Human Performance where he treats clients through his license as a chiropractic physician. He also teaches anatomy and physiology at a local college in Utah and is an instructor for the Performance Climbing Coach seminar series and a certified instructor for gobstrong. When he’s not working he’s climbing or hiking outside with his family.
You can find Tyler in Salt Lake City at his clinic, Camp 4 Human Performance, where he tests athletes, creates training programs, and treats all kinds of athletes for injuries.
I met Tyler at Steve Bechtel’s first Performance Climbing Coach Seminar in Lander in May of 2017, where we were both instructors. Since then I’ve done 4 more seminars and 7 other podcast episodes with him. You could say he’s a bit of a staple around here. He is well-spoken and a wealth of knowledge about how the human body responds to climbing and training.
Other Episodes with Tyler
TBP 155: Dr. Tyler Nelson on High Volume Power Training
TBP 149: The Different Roles of Stretching for Climbing
TBP 133: The Simplest Finger Training Protocol with Dr. Tyler Nelson
TBP 084: Injury Rehab and Blood Flow Restriction Training
TBP 098: Isometric Movements to Prime and Test Your Body
TBP 108: Bood Flow Restriction for Injury Healing and Performance
TBP 118: Latest Technology for Finger Training and Performance Testing
TBP 128: Surprising Methods for Healing Tendon Injuries
Tyler Nelson Interview Details How to change finger training to focus on endurance
Concentric pulling rather than hanging
Results he’s seeing with clients
Whether this method creates more injury
When to do this during training/performance cycles
Nerdy parts of the research on this
Why people shake when they’re trying hard
Finger curls vs finger rolls
Protocol for intermediate climber
Tyler Nelson Links Article by Tyler about training fingers for endurance
Personal website: camp4humanperformance.com
Take an online class with Tyler: camp4humanperformance.com/store
Do a consultation with Tyler
Instagram: @c4hp
Facebook: @camp4chiropractic
Learn More from Tyler: If you want to work with Dr. Tyler Nelson on an individual basis for injuries or strength training, he offers remote consultations to people all over the world. He also teaches online classes on strength training and injuries. Learn more.

Dec 23, 2020 • 1h 20min
TBP 161 :: Madeleine Crane on Overcoming the Fear of Falling
About Madeleine Crane Madeleine Crane is a sport psychologist (M.Sc.) and systemic coach located in Hohenems, Austria. She is the founder and CEO of ClimbingPsychology.com and the creator of the Fear of Falling Masterclass for Climbers.
Madeleine has a Masters degree in psychology from the University of Innsbruck and specializes in sport psychology. Due to her personal background in climbing, her main focus is on the psychology in climbing.
She has been climbing, learning and exploring for as long as she can remember. Throughout the past decade, she travelled the world representing Austria at youth climbing competitions and later on in the one or other Bouldering World Cup. Nowadays you can still find her climbing in the gym or outdoors as often as possible. She has done lead climbs and boulders in the 8th grade outside (Font & French grades).
Fear of Falling Masterclass Discount Madeleine recently published a Fear of Falling Masterclass for Climbers, which you can purchase at any time to work through your fears of falling. Madeleine is also giving TrainingBeta listeners $60 off with code #TRAININGBETA.
I asked her to be on the podcast because sometimes the fear of falling keeps us from reaching our potential as climbers; it’s so important to work through it if it’s holding you back. So in this interview we discussed the different reasons that climbers are afraid of falling and, using the tenets of her masterclass, how we can overcome those fears.
CHECK OUT THE MASTERCLASS Madeleine Crane Interview Details How sport psychology helped her as a competition climber
Reasons people are afraid to fall
Overview of masterclass
Understanding your fear
Is your fear rational?
Steps she takes to feel comfortable lead climbing
Becoming aware of your fear responses
Trusting your climbing partner
What you can do every day to help fear while climbing
Breathing, mantras, and meditations
My own strategies for dealing with fear
Madeleine Crane Links www.climbingpsychology.com
Fear of Fallinf Masterclass: www.climbingpsychology.com use code #TRAININGBETA for $60 off
Instagram: @climbingpsychology
Work with Madeleine
Rock Climbing Training Programs Do you want a well-laid-out, easy-to-follow training program that will get you stronger quickly? Here’s what we have to offer on TrainingBeta…
At-Home Training Program
Personal Training Online
Bouldering Training Program for boulderers of all abilities
Route Climbing Training Program for route climbers of all abilities
Finger Strength Programs
All of our training programs
Please Review The Podcast on iTunes Please give the podcast an honest review on iTunes here to help the show reach more curious climbers around the world.