
Doctors of Running Podcast
We are Doctors of Running, a group of doctors of physical therapy all working to provide you all with information about the art and science of running and what we are putting on our feet. In this podcast we will be giving evidence-based deep dives into running related topics as well as detailed running shoe reviews. You can also check us out at our website -- doctorsofrunning.com, and on social media @doctorsofrunning
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Latest episodes

May 24, 2023 • 1h 12min
#140 Mailbag! Does Footstrike Matter with Super Shoes? Best Stable Neutral Shoes, Pregnancy and Running, and if Super Shoes were a Food
This episode is all about your questions! Matt & David host another Q&A show. Your questions take them all over the place, from stable neutral shoes, building a shoe rotation, running during pregnancy, recovering from an ankle sprain and more! Be sure to stick around for Matt's final, completely absurd question.
Chapters
0:00 - Intro
6:20 - What are your favorite stable neutral shoes?
9:47 - Which shoes are best suited for treadmils? Soft tracks?
18:08 - What should you look for in a shoe after an ankle sprain?
24:13 - How many shoes are necessary for an average shoe rotation?
28:45 - Why do some shoes cause hot spots or tingling in the feet?
33:53 - How should training be modified during pregnancy?
41:04 - What would you (not) like to see in running shoes over the next 5 years?
44:08 - If you forefoot strike in super shoes, do you get the full benefit?
47:22 - What causes stiff/painful big toes?
51:27 - How does running with a handheld bottle impact mechanics?
56:22 - Are carbon orthotics worth using with carbon plated shoes?
59:56 - How can you train and compensate for running on heavily cambered road?
1:07:42 - If super shoes were a food, what would they be?
1:10:44 - Wrap-up
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May 17, 2023 • 53min
#139 Nike Vaporfly 3 Review, and Matt and Andrea’s Top Super Shoes Right Now
Nike's back with the latest version of the "original" super shoe, the Vaporfly 3! It's quickly become a favorite of our team, and on this episode Matt & Andrea give it a deep dive. With almost every brand selling their own super shoes now, how does the Vaporfly 3 stack up against the competition? Tune in to hear our thoughts on how it compares to the Saucony Endorphin Elite, Endorphin Pro 3, Aspics Metaspeed Sky+ and more!
The Subjective: what is your current favorite racing shoe and why?
Chapters
0:00 - Intro
3:40 - What got updated on the Vaporfly 3
9:38 - How does the midsole of the Vaporfly 3 compare to the previous versions?
14:06 - Outsole updates
16:38 - How the ride of the 3 compares to the previous versions
27:56 - How's the durability?
32:21 - Vaporfly 3 comparions
36:22 - Vaporfly 3 vs. Endorphin Pro 3
39:02 - Vaporfly 3 vs. Metaspeed Sky+
41:22 - Vaporfly 3 vs. SC Elite v3
44:46 - Vaporfly 3 vs. Rocket X 2
47:30 - Vaporfly 3 vs. Wave Rebellion Pro
49:56 - Wrap-up
This week’s episode of the Doctors of Running Podcast is sponsored by Running Warehouse. As runners, we love the outdoors and the positive impact it can have on our health and on the well-being of future generations. This Earth Day, celebrate the sustainable initiatives taken by brands to create high-quality eco-friendly gear. Head on over to Running Warehouse to check out all the sustainable styles.
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May 10, 2023 • 1h 33min
#138 The Latest Findings on Super Shoes, with Geoff Burns and Dustin Joubert
This episode is all about super shoes, particularly their benefits for the non-elite runner. At the beginning of the year, Geoff Burns and Dustin Joubert published a new study looking at the running economy benefits of super shoes for runners at slower paces (8:00-10:00 minutes per mile). They were gracious enough to lend us a ton of their time to discuss their latest findings. Get a behind the scenes look at how studies like these are put together and executed. Hear how Geoff performed test on himself during a treadmill marathon! Learn more about how much benefit the average runner can get from super shoes, how much they aid in reducing muscle breakdown, and how to pick the best super shoe for you.
Chapters
0:00 - Intro
8:43 - An overview of Geoff & Dustin's latest study
13:44 - How much does the control shoe matter in these studies?
21:31 - Geoff's solo TREADMILL MARATHON test
32:31 - Biomechanics vs Perception
45:13 - Do non-elite runners get as much benefit for running economy as elites?
54:07 - How do shoes play a role in decreasing muscle breakdown?
1:04:07 - Biomechanical changes that occur when running in softer shoes
1:12:30 - How do the latest super shoes stack up against the top-tier shoes?
1:17:13 - How should non-elite runners go about picking their racing shoes?
1:30:53 - Wrap-up
Dr. Geoff Burns is a physiologist and engineer with an expertise in running. He works for the US Olympic and Paralympic Committee as a Sport Physiologist, and he conducts academic research with the University of Michigan. His work has focused on running biomechanics and performance. Geoff is a runner himself and competes internationally in ultramarathons. He was the 2016 USA national champion in the 100km and has finished 5th at the 100km World Championships, twice, in 2016 and 2018.
Dustin Joubert has a PhD in Exercise Physiology from Texas A&M University (2015). He was a faculty member in the Department of Kinesiology at Stephen F. Austin State University from 2015-2022 before landing at his current academic home at St. Edward's University in the great running community of Austin, TX. After publishing the first super shoe comparison study, he realized there was a great interest in objective running shoe performance reviews, independent of brand partnerships. He started an Instagram page in September 2021 with the goal of sharing such data. After some success there, he decided to start his website in September 2022 to better catalog the testing and reviews he has done and continue to do with the goal of also reaching a larger audience beyond Instagram alone.
This week’s episode of the Doctors of Running Podcast is sponsored by Running Warehouse. As runners, we love the outdoors and the positive impact it can have on our health and on the well-being of future generations. This Earth Day, celebrate the sustainable initiatives taken by brands to create high-quality eco-friendly gear. Head on over to Running Warehouse to check out all the sustainable styles.

May 3, 2023 • 1h 18min
#137 The Science of Running Footwear Biomechanics: Insights from Brooks' Biomechanists
On this episode of the Doctors of Running Podcast, Matt is joined by two phenomenal guests from Brooks, Jennifer Sumner and Evan Day, biomechanists on the Brooks' Run Research Team. They give us an inside look at how Brooks' unique approach to biomechanical testing and research in shoe development. They help us tackle big questions like "what does it mean to be a runner?" and "how do we tell the difference between 'good' and 'bad' running mechanics?" They even dive into the link between mental health and wellness and how we run, and how that might influence our shoe choices.
Chapters
0:00 - Intro
9:02 - What does it mean to be running footwear biomechanist?
19:44 - How does Brooks define a "runner"?
26:18 - What is Run Signature?
36:34 - How to differentiate between good and problematic running mechanics
44:16 - How does Brooks categorize runners & their mechanics?
50:18 - The link between a runner's psychology, wellness, and biomechanics
1:03:16 - Integrating this link between mental health and mechanics into footwear design
1:09:55 - What are the next big questions Brooks is trying to address in running?
1:17:05 - Wrap-up
This week’s episode of the Doctors of Running Podcast is sponsored by Running Warehouse. As runners, we love the outdoors and the positive impact it can have on our health and on the well-being of future generations. This Earth Day, celebrate the sustainable initiatives taken by brands to create high-quality eco-friendly gear. Head on over to Running Warehouse to check out all the sustainable styles.
Jennifer Sumner is the Director of the Run Research Team at Brooks. Her passion for injury prevention started with a two-year sports medicine program in high school. From here she went on to study Biomedical Engineering and human movement for topics ranging from ergonomics to tissue engineering and finally into running injury prevention throughout her academic career. She found her passion for applied research in the product space as a research technician for Biomechanigg Inc, evaluating the influence of everything from hockey skates to road bicycles on human movement and performance. She entered the industry as a Research Scientist with New Balance before moving to Brooks, where has been for the last six years. The Brooks passion to build for all who run using science-based insights is what will keep Jennifer with the brand for years to come.
Evan Day is a Manager on the Run Research Team at Brooks overlooking biomechanical testing and research related to Inline Product (<2 years to market) and advancement of Run Signature. He has been an avid runner since his first season of middle school cross country, and became interested in the interaction between the body and footwear after suffering a tibial stress fracture in high school. From there he studied Kinesiology at Iowa State University, where he also did his Master’s in Biomechanics, focused on running injuries. He then continued on to complete his PhD at the University of Oregon in the Bowerman Sports Science Clinic focusing on running performance. He entered the industry working on basketball footwear at adidas, before transitioning to Brooks. Living the opportunity to spend every day obsessing over the granular details of footwear and running biomechanics is a dream come true for him.

Apr 26, 2023 • 45min
#136 The Science of Running Injuries: Understanding the Training Variables that Impact Your Risk
If you're a runner, chances are you've been injured in the past year. Even with medical advice, it can be hard to know what causes our injuries, but training mistakes can often be a piece of the puzzle. Andrea uses her years of experience as both a PT and a coach to give you some insight into how variables in your training (mileage, pace, etc.) may be effecting your injury risk. She also takes a look at what the scientific evidence says about how training load impacts injury risk. Be sure to listen to learn how to better structure your training so you can keep running consistently!
The Subjective: have you had an injury that was caused by training errors?
Chapters
0:00 - Intro
2:44 - The training variables that effect running injuries
7:54 - New runners are at a higher risk for injury
15:08 - How do changes in training load impact injury risk?
18:04 - How different training errors pose different types of injury risk
22:51 - The correlation between past and new injuries
24:03 - How to adjust your training load to reduce your risk
28:41 - The role of recovery in reducing injury risk
34:02 - How to set your training paces & workouts
37:02 - Consistency is key
38:30 - Adding a new variable to your training can put you at injury risk
42:39 - Nutrition is critical to strong training
43:50 - Wrap-up
This week’s episode of the Doctors of Running Podcast is sponsored by Running Warehouse. As runners, we love the outdoors and the positive impact it can have on our health and on the well-being of future generations. This Earth Day, celebrate the sustainable initiatives taken by brands to create high-quality eco-friendly gear. Head on over to Running Warehouse to check out all the sustainable styles.
Link to Sustainable Styles: https://www.runningwarehouse.com/catpage-EARTHPP.html?from=docrun&utm_source=docrun&utm_medium=website&utm_campaign=sustainable_styles

Apr 19, 2023 • 1h 23min
#135 Mailbag! Do Some People NOT Respond to Super Shoes, Our Shoe Rotations, Shoe Comparisons, and If Each DOR Member was a Shoe
Listeners dive into a Q&A about running shoes, exploring topics like toe spring versus rocker design and the impact on performance. The hosts compare various shoe models, including the Endorphin series, offering insights for beginners and heavier runners alike. They discuss the concept of super-shoe non-responders and provide tailored recommendations. In a fun twist, they reveal which type of shoe each member would embody, adding a humorous and personal touch to the practical shoe advice!

Apr 12, 2023 • 1h 13min
#134 Do I Need a Running Gait Analysis? (feat. Doug Adams, Tinman Elite PT)
On this episode, Nate & Matt are joined by a very special guest, Dr. Doug Adams. Doug lends us his years of experience and expertise in the mechanics of running. They discuss five typical patterns Doug sees in running mechanics like the "collapser" and the "glute amnesiac." They also talk about how your gait and strength impact your running risk, how mechanics and running economy are linked, and, of course, shoes.
Dr. Doug Adams is a Physical Therapist who has published and spoken at an international level on all things related to running. Doug has taught thousands of professionals his systematic approach to providing personalized plans for runners through the Certified Running Gait Analyst and Endurance Running Coaching courses. He also designed and created a portable 3D Motion Analysis system called Helix 3D for analyzing and categorizing running form that is used widely throughout the Department of Defense and commercial sectors. You can find him on Instagram at @RunDNASystem and @DougAdamsPT.
Team PT for Tinman Elite Professional Running Team
Adjunct faculty for the 711th Human Performance Wing of the US Air Force
Co-Founder Omega Project PT in Wilmington, Delaware that specializes in treating endurance athletes and runners
The Subjective: Have you ever had a running/gait analysis done?
Chapters
0:00 - Intro
1:42 - Doug's background & work
6:08 - Doug's work with professional athletes
12:57 - Definining running mechanics
16:22 - The utility of a running analysis
28:40 - Five typical running mechanic patterns
39:14 - Injury risks from each pattern of running mechanics
43:22 - The relationship between gait retraining and strength training
47:56 - The impact of running mechanics on running economy
53:10 - The Duty Cycle's role in injury risk
58:02 - Can you retrain your own mechanics?
1:02:40 - Running mechanics considerations with shoes
1:10:20 - Wrap-up
This week’s episode of the Doctors of Running Podcast is sponsored by Running Warehouse. Check out their new series Test Run on YouTube which pits footwear against one another in a variety of conditions to help you better decide which shoe fits your future running needs. Their first episode takes the team to the trails. From rocky trails to high hills to muddy paths, Connor and team are put through the elements in a series of technical challenges to help highlight the best features of each shoe tested. Watch here: https://www.runningwarehouse.com/Test_Run__Trail/catpage-TRTPP.html
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Apr 5, 2023 • 1h 16min
#133 Super Shoe Deep Dive: Hoka Rocket X 2 and New Balance SC Elite v3
This week on the pod, the team takes a deep dive on two new super shoes, the HOKA Rocket X 2 and the New Balance SC Elite v3. This is HOKA's first real entry into the PEBA game and they've made a great racing shoe! New Balance has made some significant changes to what used to be the RC Elite, featuring their FuelCell midsole and EnergyArc plate technology. Tune in to hear our thorough analysis of each shoe! Finally we wrap up the episode with our current picks for a half marathon and marathon. Be sure to let us know what you'd pick!
The Subjective: if you were running a half marathon or marathon tomorrow, what shoe would you pick and why?
Chapters
0:00 - Intro
2:12 - HOKA Rocket X 2 specs & overview
6:15 - Rocket X 2: Fit
10:26 - Rocket X 2: Ride & Performance
17:14 - Rocket X 2: Stability
32:31 - Rocket X 2: Comparisons
37:09 - New Balance SC Elite v3: specs & overview
38:29 - SC Elite: Fit
46:58 - SC Elite: Ride & Performance
53:26 - SC Elite: Stability
59:06 - SC Elite: Comparisons
1:04:59 - What shoe would you choose for your next marathon and half marathon?
1:14:16 - Wrap-up
This week’s episode of the Doctors of Running Podcast is sponsored by Running Warehouse. Check out their new series Test Run on YouTube which pits footwear against one another in a variety of conditions to help you better decide which shoe fits your future running needs. Their first episode takes the team to the trails. From rocky trails to high hills to muddy paths, Connor and team are put through the elements in a series of technical challenges to help highlight the best features of each shoe tested. Watch here: https://www.runningwarehouse.com/Test_Run__Trail/catpage-TRTPP.htmlCheck out these great products out now:
Skratch: https://bit.ly/3m16L8Z
Rabbit apparel collection: https://bit.ly/43742v5
Boston Marathon apparel: https://bit.ly/40Ymvbu

Mar 29, 2023 • 59min
#132 How to Rehab Like a Pro: Lessons from a Former New York Red Bulls Physio
In this episode, Andrea is joined by Mike Staropoli, DPT and founder of GOAL Physiotherapy & Sports Performance. In addition to managing GOAL, he was previously the first team physio for the New York Red Bulls in Major League soccer as well as currently is a physical therapist with Red Bull Performance, working with many of the Red Bull sponsored athletes you may see across various sports. He and Andrea discuss training wisdom and experience gained from working with elite athletes across many sports. They'll also give you tips for finding a high quality, local PT, how to rehab well from an injury, and how to integrate strategies from elite athletes into your training regimen.
Mike graduated with his Doctorate in Physical Therapy as well as Bachelors in Exercise Science from Sacred Heart University. He then went on to become a Board Certified Orthopedic Specialist, demonstrating advanced skills, knowledge and clinical experience as an expert in his field as well as Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist.
You can find Mike online at...
Instagram: @mikestardpt and @goaldrivenpt
Website: www.goaldrivenpt.com
Goal YouTube: @goaldrivenpt
The Subjective: if you had unlimited time for running, what would you change about your training & routines?
Chapters
0:00 - Intro & getting to know Mike
9:51 - Mike's journey from a PT clinic to working for Red Bull
14:32 - The Subjective: if you had unlimited time for running, what would you change about your training & routines?
15:52 - How to find a high quality PT clinic
23:43 - How does Goal assess runners?
31:52 - How to know if you're truly ready for return to sport after an injury
36:58 - What does the rehab process look like for professional athletes?
41:18 - What it was like to work for New York Red Bulls
50:50 - What training lessons can runners take from professional soccer teams?
53:07 - The use of PEBA foams in soccer cleats
55:48 - What can the average runner learn from pro athletes?
57:34 - Wrap-up
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Mar 22, 2023 • 1h 1min
#131 The Truth About Plantar Fasciitis
The podcast discusses plantar fascia pain, including its anatomy, risk factors, and treatments. They also explore the connection between low arches and flat feet on plantar fasciitis. The episode provides considerations when it comes to shoes for those with plantar fascia pain.