
Doctors of Running Podcast
We are Doctors of Running, a group of doctors of physical therapy all working to provide you all with information about the art and science of running and what we are putting on our feet. In this podcast we will be giving evidence-based deep dives into running related topics as well as detailed running shoe reviews. You can also check us out at our website -- doctorsofrunning.com, and on social media @doctorsofrunning
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Latest episodes

Mar 15, 2023 • 1h 8min
#130 All your Training & Racing Questions Answered, with Run Coach Elisabeth Scott (Running Explained)
On this episode of the podcast, Nathan and Matt are joined by a very special guest: Elisabeth Scott of Running Explained! Elisabeth lends us her coaching expertise to answer all of your (and our) training and racing questions: favorite workouts, how to understand heart rate data, burnout, Strava drama, and more! Tune in for a enlightening and fascinating discussion that's sure to improve your running journey!
Elisabeth started Running Explained with the mission to help runners of all experiences and abilities become students of the sport and understand the how, what, and why of running! Although active in sports growing up (including swimming, cross-country, and downhill skiing), running just to run was never on her mind! After a long stretch of inactivity through college and her late twenties, Elisabeth picked up running at the age of 29 and set the goal of running a local 5k... just to "get in shape!" Within 6 months, she had run a 5k, 10k, half marathon, and full marathon, finishing her first half in 1:56 and her first full in 4:05 (which at the time was devasting... and in retrospect is something she is eminently proud of). This "crash course" in running (including learning a lot about what not to do) fueled the inspiration for the work she does today. You can find her online everywhere @runningexplained.
The Subjective: what's the best running advice you've received?
Chapters
0:00 - Introduction
2:26 - Elisabeth's journey to become a run coach
8:59 - A day in the life of a running coach
15:31 - What are your favorite workouts for specific distances?
23:52 - How slow should my easy miles be?
30:58 - How much stock do you put in to heart rate data & training?
38:40 - Why you should ignore your heart rate during a race
41:44 - What to make of VO2 and race predictors on our smartwatches
46:53 - How much do you need to run before tackling your first marathon?
51:24 - What should you do when you feel burnout?
54:47 - Should you use Strava?
59:59 - What kind of splits should you try for during a race?
1:03:07 - Are post-race blues a real thing?
1:06:04 - Wrap-up
This episode is sponsored by InsideTracker. InsideTracker gives you a personalized approach to health and longevity by providing highly specific, performance focused bloodwork analysis. Created by experts in aging, genetics, and biometric data from Harvard, Tufts and MIT – Insider Tracker provides personalized health analysis and clear recommendations plus an action plan on how to live healthier, longer. For a limited time you can get 20% off the entire InsideTracker store when you sign up by using insidetracker.com/doctorsofrunning.

Mar 13, 2023 • 21min
DOR Shakeout: NASA-inspired Thermal Clothing & Footwear from OROS (ft. Michael Markesberry)
On this special "shakeout" episode Nathan is joined by Michael Markesberry, CEO & Co-Founder of OROS. OROS makes some of the most advanced thermal materials in the world, featuring their unique SOLARCORE Aerogel technology. Not only do they make apparel but they've partnered with footwear brands like Merrell. Tune in to learn how their (literally) space-age tech & material is advancing thermal clothing & shoes.

Mar 8, 2023 • 32min
#129 The RUN-CAT Method: Finding the Perfect Running Shoe For You
This episode is all about finding the the right shoe for you. Options these days are endless and often advice found online or instore can be misinformed or just not helpful. Dr. Matthew Klein shares from his running shoe experience to help you find the right footwear. One of the best tools out there is the RUN-CAT which gives you five simple criteria to help you evaluate new shoes. Matt gives you a background on the RUN-CAT and a primer on how to effectively use it, whether you're shopping for shoes, a clinician, or work in run retail.
Chapters
0:00 - Intro
2:24 - Matt's journey into running shoes
4:40 - Assessing your need for stability in your shoes
8:05 - Enter the RUN-CAT
12:26 - The four components of the RUN-CAT
18:44 - Combining shoe comfort with individual biomechanics
27:30 - Wrap-up
This episode is sponsored by InsideTracker. InsideTracker gives you a personalized approach to health and longevity by providing highly specific, performance focused bloodwork analysis. Created by experts in aging, genetics, and biometric data from Harvard, Tufts and MIT – Insider Tracker provides personalized health analysis and clear recommendations plus an action plan on how to live healthier, longer. For a limited time you can get 20% off the entire InsideTracker store when you sign up by using insidetracker.com/doctorsofrunning.

Mar 1, 2023 • 57min
#128 Mailbag Episode! Hip Exercises, Best Shoes for Supinators, Hallux Limitus and Heel-striking, the Best Post-race Food, and More
This episode is all about your questions! Nate, Matt, and DJ cover a broad range of topics, from shifting stability needs to exercises for your hips. What shoes can help Hallux Limitus? What racing shoes are best for heel strikers? Tune in to hear answers to these and more. Be sure to listen all the way to the end to hear about everyone's favorite post-race eats.
Chapters
0:00 - Intro
3:39 - Do we progress from needing stability shoes as we progress in our running?
14:05 - What are the best trail shoes for shifting workload away from the calves?
23:17 - What are the best shoes for a supinator returning from Achilles tendinitis?
29:50 - What are the best shoes for Hallux limitus?
39:19 - What are the best exercises to loosen hips?
45:27 - What's the best marathon racing shoe for heel strikers?
51:28 - What's the best post-race food?
55:30 - Wrap-up
This episode is sponsored by InsideTracker. InsideTracker gives you a personalized approach to health and longevity by providing highly specific, performance focused bloodwork analysis. Created by experts in aging, genetics, and biometric data from Harvard, Tufts and MIT – Insider Tracker provides personalized health analysis and clear recommendations plus an action plan on how to live healthier, longer. For a limited time you can get 20% off the entire InsideTracker store when you sign up by using insidetracker.com/doctorsofrunning.

Feb 22, 2023 • 1h 21min
#127 The Hard Lessons We Learned from Racing in 2022
For DOR Contributors Andrea Myers and Megan Flynn, 2022 was filled with a ton of training and racing, and not just running. In this episode, Andrea & Megan share their training journeys from the past year: everything from workouts, races, injuries, and even triathlons. They also offer tips and strategies to help you better reflect on and learn from your fitness journey.
The Subjective: how do you reflect and track your training & racing?
Chapters
0:00 - Intro
1:29 - Strategies for reflecting on training & racing
7:18 - Megan's start to 2022
13:26 - Cycling & triathlons in the midst of injury
19:54 - Returning to running
25:22 - CIM 2022
29:22 - Megan's lessons from 2022
33:20 - Andrea's start to 2022
44:54 - Spring & summer racing
59:54 - Building to & racing the Kiawah Marathon
1:12:55 - Andrea's lessons learned in 2022
1:18:27 - Wrap-up
This episode is sponsored by InsideTracker. InsideTracker gives you a personalized approach to health and longevity by providing highly specific, performance focused bloodwork analysis. Created by experts in aging, genetics, and biometric data from Harvard, Tufts and MIT – Insider Tracker provides personalized health analysis and clear recommendations plus an action plan on how to live healthier, longer. For a limited time you can get 20% off the entire InsideTracker store when you sign up by using insidetracker.com/doctorsofrunning.

Feb 15, 2023 • 41min
#126 Let’s Talk All About the Responsiveness of Shoes
"Responsiveness" is a term often thrown around loosely in the running shoe world, but what does it really mean? On this episode of the podcast, Matt & David take a stab at defining it and exploring its many facets. A shoe's responsiveness depends on the midsole foam, geometry, stiffness, as well as an individual's biomechanics. They also compare and contrast the responsiveness of different shoes and consider what types of events or runs to use different shoes for.
The Subjective: how do you define responsiveness in a shoe?
Chapters
0:00 - Intro
2:08 - How do you define responsiveness in a shoe?
13:07 - The combination of factors that make up responsiveness
17:12 - How individual biomechanics impact responsiveness
22:14 - Choosing shoes based on responsiveness
29:52 - Who will/won't benefit from a highly responsive shoe?
34:27 - Picking the right tool for the job
38:38 - Wrap-up
This episode is sponsored by InsideTracker. InsideTracker gives you a personalized approach to health and longevity by providing highly specific, performance focused bloodwork analysis. Created by experts in aging, genetics, and biometric data from Harvard, Tufts and MIT – Insider Tracker provides personalized health analysis and clear recommendations plus an action plan on how to live healthier, longer. For a limited time you can get 20% off the entire InsideTracker store when you sign up by using insidetracker.com/doctorsofrunning.

Feb 8, 2023 • 50min
#125 All Your Stability Questions Answered
Almost every runner has logged miles in stability shoes at some point in their running journey. In the past few years, the definition of "stability" has shifted with the advent of new foams and midsole geometries. On today's show, Nathan and Matt take a deep dive into the world of stability. They explore the history of stability shoes, current technologies, and upcoming new models. They also provide some guidance on how to choose shoes for yourself, whether you need stability or not.
The Subjective: how do you define a stability shoe?
Chapters
0:00 - Intro
2:27 - The history of stability shoes
11:08 - Game-changing stability shoes
17:33 - Do new runners need to start with a stability shoe?
23:01 - Will a stability shoe help as you tire on the run?
24:31 - The technology that makes up a stability shoe
36:16 - What about runners who have high arches or supinate?
41:34 - Can anyone run in neutral shoes?
44:07 - Looking forward to upcoming stability shoes
48:57 - Wrap-up
This episode is sponsored by InsideTracker. InsideTracker gives you a personalized approach to health and longevity by providing highly specific, performance focused bloodwork analysis. Created by experts in aging, genetics, and biometric data from Harvard, Tufts and MIT – Insider Tracker provides personalized health analysis and clear recommendations plus an action plan on how to live healthier, longer. For a limited time you can get 20% off the entire InsideTracker store when you sign up by using insidetracker.com/doctorsofrunning.

Feb 1, 2023 • 55min
#124 The Truth about Orthotics, with Wessel van Veenen, Orthotic Specialist
In this week's episode Matt is joined by Wessel van Veenen, an orthotic specialist. The duo discusses some basics of appropriate orthotic usage and explores best practice use. They then dive into some new, exciting developments in the world of orthotics to look out for. Wessel also shares his unique background in footwear, including some unique testing through a brand that's exploded back into the running scene in recent years.
Chapters
0:00 - Intro
4:55 - Wessel's masters work: testing Puma prototypes
8:49 - Wessel's work as an orthopedic advisor
14:26 - Should you get an insole or an entirely different shoe?
19:38 - Shoe modifications to aid mobility
30:10 - Orthotic uses for carbon fiber plates
36:51 - The differences between walking orthotic aids & running shoes
45:41 - New & upcoming developments in orthotics
53:35 - Wrap up

Jan 25, 2023 • 55min
#123 Amelia Boone's Journey: Overcoming Injury and Eating Disorder to Achieve Athletic Success
On this episode, Andrea and Megan are joined by a very special guest: Amelia Boone! Amelia's an incredibly accomplished obstacle racer and ultra runner. Tune in to hear how she's survived and won so many epic, painful races. She'll also share her story of long injury history and struggle with an eating disorder, offering strategies to fight and recover even stronger.
Amelia Boone is a full-time corporate attorney, obstacle racer, and ultrarunner. Dubbed “The Queen of Pain,” Amelia is a 4x world champion and one of the most decorated obstacle racers in history. Over her career, she’s amassed more than 50 podiums and 30 victories in obstacle racing. You can find her online at her website, Twitter, and Instagram.
The Subjective: how do you balance your running with every day life?
Chapters
00:00 - Intro
03:19 - What is obstacle racing?
06:09 - How Amelia trains for obstacle racing
08:59 - The Death Race?!
11:18 - Mental strategies for survinging the suffering
18:06 - Transitioning from obstacle racing to ultra racing
19:55 - Amelia's favorite shoes
27:40 - Balancing work and training lives
31:49 - Amelia's injury history & lessons learned
39:45 - The dangers of linking injury to our identity
44:20 - Fighting with and recovering from eating disorders
53:24 - Wrap-up

Jan 18, 2023 • 43min
#122 Mastering the Art of Winter Running, Part 2: Giving Up On Going Outside, and Learning to Love the Treadmill
This second part of our winter running feature is all about the treadmill. Some days, the weather is just too rough to brave the elements, or maybe the schedule calls for a hard workout that will be unnecessarily challenging in the cold/snow/ice; that's where the treadmill comes in. Nate & Andrea share tips to finding and buying the right treadmill for your needs, how to adjust your training, their favorite shoes on the treadmill, and the science behind biomechanical changes while treadmill running.
The Subjective: what's your number one tip for getting through winter training?
Chapters
0:00 - Intro
1:58 - Treadmill buying guide: features, size, types, etc.
11:04 - How to approach training on a treadmill
20:43 - Picking shoes for treadmill running
23:53 - Biomechanical changes while treadmill running
30:40 - Gait changes on a treadmill vs. outdoors
38:31 - Wrap-up