

Inclusion and Marketing
Sonia Thompson
Attract, convert, and retain a bigger, more diverse, and fiercely loyal customer base with inclusive marketing strategies that fuel business growth. Inclusion & Marketing is hosted by Sonia Thompson — inclusive marketing strategist, consultant, and columnist for Forbes, Inc., and HubSpot — and gives you practical strategies to infuse inclusion into every stage of your customer journey, from customer acquisition and conversion to customer loyalty and customer success. Through solo deep dives, expert interviews, and behind-the-scenes case studies with top brands, you’ll learn how to create customer experiences that resonate with underrepresented and underserved communities — and drive business growth. Part of the HubSpot Podcast Network.What you’ll hear:
How to build internal systems that support inclusive marketing — so your campaigns are authentic from the inside out.
How to deliver marketing campaigns, communications, and customer experiences that win more customers — including people from underrepresented and underserved communities.
What’s working (and what isn’t) for brands today as they try to effectively engage today’s consumer.
If you’re asking these questions, you’re in the right place:
How do I deliver authentic marketing that actually converts more customers?
How can I grow my customer base in today’s diverse marketplace?
How do I effectively engage underrepresented and underserved customer groups?
How do I connect inclusive marketing directly to business growth and results?
How to build internal systems that support inclusive marketing — so your campaigns are authentic from the inside out.
How to deliver marketing campaigns, communications, and customer experiences that win more customers — including people from underrepresented and underserved communities.
What’s working (and what isn’t) for brands today as they try to effectively engage today’s consumer.
If you’re asking these questions, you’re in the right place:
How do I deliver authentic marketing that actually converts more customers?
How can I grow my customer base in today’s diverse marketplace?
How do I effectively engage underrepresented and underserved customer groups?
How do I connect inclusive marketing directly to business growth and results?
Episodes
Mentioned books

Dec 15, 2022 • 19min
27. Planning your inclusive brand calendar
When it comes to cultural events and celebrations, particularly those honoring underrepresented and underserved communities, your brand’s participation is a great way to make these communities feel seen by you, and a way for you to demonstrate that they do indeed belong with you. Now, I'm not saying that you have to celebrate these events to communicate and send signals of belonging to the people you want to serve. But this is one way that you can do that. Creating an inclusive marketing calendar is a smart way for you to be intentional about figuring out which celebrations your brand will take part in, and which ones you won’t.Get the episode transcript hereGet the Inclusion & Marketing newsletter

Dec 8, 2022 • 36min
26. Making your performance marketing campaigns more inclusive with Karen Amundson
Key points covered in this episode:
The role of inclusion in performance marketing
Where many performance marketing campaigns fall short with regard to inclusion
Why so many people are often excluded from performance marketing campaigns
Why inclusive marketing is a solution to ad fatigue
The key question you should ask to enable you to include more people in your ad campaigns
The data you need to build more inclusive campaigns and the caution you should use when analyzing it
How to ensure your partners in performance marketing have an inclusive mindset
Get the episode transcript hereLinks and resources mentioned in this episode:
www.apiarydigital.com
Algorithms of Oppression
The End of the Majority, and What it Means for Your Brand with Julye Williams - Inclusion & Marketing podcast episode 11
About Karen Amundsen:I'm a white lady named Karen, passionate about racial equity. As the Founder and Chair of Apiary Digital, the area I'm able to have the biggest impact is in business and marketing. Apiary Digital is a full-service performance marketing collective headquartered in the cloud. We believe that humans are greater than business, and that inclusive performance marketing is one and the same as succeeding in our client's customer acquisition goals.What inclusive brand type are you? Take this quick quiz to find out: www.inclusivemarketing.co/quiz

Dec 1, 2022 • 14min
25. Listen before featuring diverse talent in your next video, photo, and or content shoot
Representation matters. It isn’t enough to just have representation of the talent in front of the camera. It is just as important to have representation and or expertise behind the camera that is poised to capture diverse talent in the proper light (pun intended).Remember, the people you serve need to see themselves or who they aspire to be reflected in the visual imagery your brand puts forth. If your brand regularly publishes imagery of diverse communities that they don’t think is flattering, then they will get the message that they don’t belong with you. The effort you put into securing representative talent won’t yield the results you like if people are disappointed with the imagery.The next time you and your team start preparing for a photo, video, or content shoot that features and includes diverse talent, it is imperative that you take the time to give proper thought to these roles behind the camera to ensure you get a final product all can be pleased with.Get the episode transcript hereElleUK Wakanda Forever Cover: https://twitter.com/ELLEUK/status/1575763902121803776/photo/1Elle Brasil Viola Davis Cover:https://twitter.com/ellebrasil/status/1570475582160240640/photo/1Vogue Simone Biles Cover: https://twitter.com/BritniDWrites/status/1281713398963564544/------What inclusive brand type are you? Take the quiz here to find out. www.inclusionandmarketing.com/quiz

Nov 24, 2022 • 33min
24. Engage more diverse consumers authentically with this essential practice
A big barrier to effectively engaging with diverse consumers and communities is the way we think. In many instances, we default to our own frame of reference, perspectives, and ways of doing things. However that limits your ability to practice empathy and to give consumers who are different from you exactly what they need from you.In this episode, I walk you through the essential practice of decentering yourself, they key areas you need to focus on doing it, and of course, I offer up practical ways to do it as well.Get the episode transcript hereGet the Inclusion & Marketing newsletter

Nov 17, 2022 • 33min
23. How consumers want you to celebrate heritage months with Arturo Gutierrez
Some brands do really well when it comes to celebrating communities during their heritage months, like Black History Month, Women’s History Month, PRIDE, Hispanic Heritage Month, Asian-American and Pacific-Islander Month. However, there are plenty others that struggle. And there’s also a large group of brands that stay on the sidelines, because they aren’t sure how to engage, or even if they should.So as we get closer to a new year, and it’s time to decide about what your brand will celebrate and what you won’t - I thought it’d be helpful for you to bring in some reinforcements to help guide you.That’s why I chatted with Arturo Gutierrez, the SVP of Strategy at Codeword, an integrated marketing agency. Arturo and his team at Codeword did a survey to find out what consumers want with regard to these types of celebrations – and the insights, and the discussion we have around them is relevant and applicable for you – no matter your size, your budget, or your experience engaging with communities in this manner.Get the episode transcript hereKey Points:
Why brands should consider celebrating heritage months for diverse communities
How you should be thinking about the people who are buying your product
Why so many diverse communities are indifferent to heritage month campaigns, and what to do about it
What you should and shouldn’t be measuring as it relates to heritage month celebrations
How brands should think about the objective of heritage month campaigns
How to ensure your heritage month celebrations leave a lasting impact
What diverse communities want from brands during heritage months and beyond
About Arturo GutierrezArturo Gutierrez is the SVP of Strategy at Codeword, an integrated marketing agency that develops smart marketing strategies, manages editorial and social channels, and drives news coverage for tech clients both big and small. A former management consultant having advised Fortune 500 clients across The Americas, Europe and the Middle East, Arturo’s expertise include leadership, marketing strategy, and organizational growth.Linkshttps://twitter.com/Art_Gutierrez https://www.codewordagency.com/ Get the Inclusion & Marketing newsletter

Nov 10, 2022 • 21min
22. Common ways brands treat diverse talent like unpaid consultants (and what to do instead)
"Hire a diverse team" is often the advice and cry people tout when brands struggle with being inclusive with their marketing. So common practice, is to tap into diverse talent to get them to provide their feedback and expertise on various topics related to campaigns and internal initiatives. But this isn't always the right thing to do, and can impede your efforts to make your diverse talent feel like they belong with you. No bueno.In this episode, I walk you through common challenges with this approach, and what you should do instead to get the feedback you need, tap into the power of having a diverse team, while also making them feel like they belong.Get the episode transcript hereGet the Inclusion & Marketing newsletter

Nov 3, 2022 • 20min
21. Cultural appropriation and inappropriate use of a culture not your own: Let's talk about it
Cultural appropriation happens more often than in should. And inappropriate use of a culture not your own happens even more often. Both of these practices are harmful, and in this episode I'm walking you through clear examples of both, and giving you practical guidance on how not to engage in them. In addition, you'll walk away with practical guidance on how you as an individual and consumer can play a role in shutting down these practices as well.Get the episode transcript hereHere are the links mentioned in the episode:
Hailey Beiber make trend rant - Shantal Smith
The cultural appropriation of yoga - Blair Imani
The Maasai People Take Back Their Brand
Dia de los Muertos Barbie Walks a Fine Line Between Cultural Appropriation and Appreciation
Kim Kardashian West's Kimono underwear meets Japanese backlash
How Disney redeemed itself with 'Coco' after the Dia de Muertos trademark fiasco
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May 24, 2022 • 12min
20. Why more brands are embracing advocacy
All over the world, but specifically in the United States, there has been a lot going on in the past few years. From the Black Lives Matter movement that gained momentum in the wake of George Floyd's murder just two years ago, to the surge of Asian hate during the pandemic, and now another hate crime in Buffalo. And to be frank, I am disappointed in the responses to this event, or lack thereof from many businesses.With this uptick in interest in social justice matters, it is more important than ever for businesses to stand for what they believe in.In the season finale of the Inclusion and Marketing Podcast, I share:
The importance of brands expressing their beliefs and taking action around important social and political issues affecting the current climate
How to get started on brand advocacy
How to be authentic when shaping your brand advocacy
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May 17, 2022 • 54min
19. The critical link between equity and customer success with Deborah Pickett
Today we’re going to explore the critical link between equity and customer success with a very special guest! My sister Deborah Pickett, a middle school math instructional trainer and coach, will share her valuable words of wisdom for those who are ready to embark on the lifelong process of being dedicated to equity.Our conversation will cover:
What is the difference between equity and equality?
From a business standpoint, what happens when equity isn’t prioritized?
How to start using data to analyze potential equity issues in your business?
What is the link between equity and access? What do equitable practices look like?
What does it mean to say that justice is in the details?
What is the relationship between equity, empathy, and compassion?
What is the water vs the fish principle, and what are some real world examples of this way of thinking?
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May 3, 2022 • 38min
18. Planning a marketing mix that works for more of your customers with Bianca Blake
Why should business leaders consider text communication as part of their digital marketing strategy? In this episode, we’ll have an enlightening discussion with Bianca Blake, co-founder of Klickrr, about best practices for text marketing, and how text messaging can help brands develop a deeper degree of intimacy with the people they want to serve.We also cover:
What are the advantages of text marketing?
The relationship between inclusive marketing and customer experience
The importance of taking your audience’s preferences into account when developing brand communication strategies
Realizing that inclusion isn't always about demographics--sometimes it's about giving people the option to engage with your brand according to their personal preferences
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