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Aug 7, 2025 • 39min
Did the Road to Trump Start in the 90’s? with John Ganz
John Ganz, journalist and author of the Unpopular Front newsletter, dives into how the tumultuous 1990s set the stage for today's political climate and the rise of Trumpism. He argues that while many view the decade nostalgically, it was marked by economic strife and discontent that fueled anti-establishment sentiments. Ganz connects historical figures like Ross Perot to current populist movements, and he emphasizes the irony of today's political rhetoric, showcasing how chaos and chance shape our history and future.

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Aug 5, 2025 • 1h 2min
Was the Nuclear Bomb Inevitable? With Frank Close
In this engaging conversation, physicist Frank Close shares his expertise as a Fellow of the Royal Society and an award-winning science writer. He delves into the surprising origins of nuclear power, starting with Henri Becquerel's discovery in 1896. Close discusses the intricate journey of atomic science, highlighting the brilliance of pioneers like Rutherford and Fermi. The dialogue reveals how scientific curiosity turned into a race for nuclear weaponry during WWII, and Closely examines the moral complexities faced by scientists amid the looming threat of destruction.

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Aug 3, 2025 • 35min
An African History of Africa, with Zeinab Badawi (Part Two)
Zeinab Badawi, an award-winning broadcaster and author of 'An African History of Africa,' shares her insights on the continent's rich history, emphasizing a narrative untethered from colonialism. She discusses the origins of humankind and ancient African civilizations, challenging misconceptions about heritage and identity. Badawi highlights the importance of personal stories in understanding African experiences and explores the values of community and Ubuntu. This conversation uncovers the complexity of African identities amid the legacies of migration and colonialism.

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Aug 2, 2025 • 38min
An African History of Africa, with Zeinab Badawi (Part One)
Zeinab Badawi, an award-winning broadcaster and journalist, unveils a fresh perspective on Africa's history. She argues for narratives that prioritize African voices over colonial frameworks. Delving into ancient civilizations, she highlights the influential roles of women in Sudan's Meroitic period and the impacts of empires like Aksum and Great Zimbabwe. Badawi advocates for educational reforms to bridge historical gaps, aiming to empower future generations with a deeper understanding of their rich heritage.

Aug 1, 2025 • 14min
The Specialist | The Greatest Persian Manuscript: A Story Fit For Kings, with Benedict Carter
Dive into the mesmerizing tale of the Shahnameh, the Persian Book of Kings, and its journey through history. Hear about the extraordinary 258-illustration manuscript, its royal origins, and the impact of its turbulent past. Discover the fascinating 1994 exchange of art that connected cultures and the record-breaking auction that captivated the world. This story melds art, literature, and history, showcasing the enduring legacy of Persian culture.

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Aug 1, 2025 • 1h 9min
Classic Debate: To Stop Climate Collapse, We Must End Capitalism
Adair Turner, former Chair of the Financial Services Authority, joins environmental lawyer Farhana Yamin, Guardian journalist George Monbiot, and environmentalist Tony Juniper for a lively debate. They dissect capitalism's role in the climate crisis, debating whether its relentless growth threatens our planet. Turner contends capitalism has solved many problems, while Yamin and Monbiot advocate for radical change to prevent catastrophe. The engaging discussion explores the urgent need for systemic economic shifts to align sustainability with our economic model.

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Jul 29, 2025 • 48min
Did Apple’s Rise Fuel China’s Fight for Tech Supremacy? With Patrick McGee
In this intriguing conversation, investigative journalist Patrick McGee, author of "Apple in China" and former Apple reporter at the Financial Times, explores Apple's dramatic rise from the brink of bankruptcy to global domination. He discusses Apple's pivotal decision to outsource production to China and the resulting impact on its success with products like the iPod and iPhone. McGee reveals the complex relationship between Apple and the Chinese state, highlighting the geopolitical tensions and the ethical dilemmas arising from this entanglement.

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Jul 28, 2025 • 41min
How did the fourteenth century shape England? With Helen Carr
Helen Carr, a medieval historian and author of The Sceptered Isle, delves into the chaotic 14th century England. She discusses the onset of the Hundred Years’ War and its impact on the nation. Carr highlights Queen Isabella's ascent to power amid social upheaval and examines the tragic fate of Princess Joan, entwined with love and plague. Additionally, she reflects on Edward II's turbulent reign and the cultural transition leading to the Renaissance, showcasing how this century profoundly shaped England's future.

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Jul 26, 2025 • 59min
How will Taiwan shape Asia’s future? With Chris Horton
In this engaging discussion, Chris Horton, a seasoned foreign correspondent based in Taipei since 2015 and author of 'Ghost Nation,' sheds light on Taiwan's pivotal role in shaping Asia's future. He shares insights from his extensive interviews with locals and leaders, revealing Taiwan's journey to becoming a tech powerhouse. Horton explores the island's complex identity, its ongoing struggle against Chinese influence, and the intricate U.S.-Taiwan relationship. Tune in for a compelling look at Taiwan's democracy and its precarious position in global geopolitics!

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Jul 25, 2025 • 51min
Where Will the Next Tech Superpower Emerge? With Mehran Gul
Mehran Gul, a Financial Times/McKinsey Bracken Bower Prize winner and author of The New Geography of Innovation, discusses the shifting landscape of global tech innovation. He argues that the U.S.-China rivalry overshadows emerging tech powerhouses. Gul emphasizes the importance of cultural and contextual influences on innovation, exploring how different nations are redefining their approaches. The conversation also highlights the evolution of artificial intelligence and the diverse drivers behind technological breakthroughs across the globe.