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Latest episodes

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Feb 28, 2025 • 36min
Justin Webb on The Trump World Order (Part 2)
Justin Webb, a veteran BBC journalist and former North America editor, offers a compelling analysis of the new dynamics under Trump's administration. He explores how Trump's approach—favoring personal relationships over established international systems—shifts global power structures. Webb discusses the implications for Europe and the UK, focusing on policy changes regarding Ukraine, the Middle East, and China. He also addresses the ideological rifts between American and European values, and the challenges facing the GOP and American democracy.

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Feb 26, 2025 • 40min
Justin Webb on The Trump World Order (Part 1)
Justin Webb, a veteran BBC journalist and author, delves into the ramifications of Donald Trump's return to power. He examines how Trump’s personal approach is reshaping global politics, focusing on issues like trade and international relations. Webb contrasts Trump’s unconventional style with that of previous presidents, highlighting the complexities within his administration. He also discusses Trump’s strategic dealings with leaders like Putin and Zelensky, and the implications for NATO and the Middle East, emphasizing the shifting dynamics in international diplomacy.

Feb 24, 2025 • 1h 7min
Classic Debate: Rembrandt vs Vermeer - The Titans of Dutch Painting
Historian Simon Schama passionately defends Rembrandt, portraying him as the embodiment of humanity's raw emotional tapestry. He argues that Rembrandt's work transcends formal beauty, offering a visceral exploration of life. In contrast, author Tracey Chevalier champions Vermeer, emphasizing his magical, serene paintings that invite viewer interpretation. Chevalier reveals her lifelong obsession with Vermeer’s 'Girl with a Pearl Earring,' highlighting the intriguing mystery of his subjects. Together, they unravel the complexities and legacies of these two Dutch titans.

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Feb 23, 2025 • 47min
Chokepoints: Economic Warfare in the Modern World, with Edward Fishman
Edward Fishman, a leading authority on economic statecraft and a professor at Columbia University, shares insights from his book on economic warfare. He discusses how the U.S. uses economic tools like sanctions to assert its power in global crises. Along with Chris Miller, a Tufts University historian, they examine the complexities of sanctions against countries like Iran and Russia. They also delve into the evolving nature of economic strategies in modern diplomacy and the role of technology in navigating these turbulent times.

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Feb 21, 2025 • 48min
Nicholas Carr on How Technologies of Communication Tear Us Apart
Nicholas Carr, an American journalist and best-selling author known for "The Shallows," dives into the dark side of our connected world. He discusses how technologies like Facebook and X, initially seen as aids for communication, have actually intensified tribalism and misinformation. Carr highlights the paradox where increased interaction leads to greater isolation, emphasizing the harmful effects on cognitive ability. He also introduces 'dissimilarity cascades,' revealing how online engagement can deepen divides rather than foster understanding.

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Feb 19, 2025 • 1h 7min
Classic Debate: Parenting Doesn’t Matter (Or Not As Much As You Think)
Joining the discussion are Robert Plomin, a behavioral genetics expert; Susan Pawlby, a developmental psychologist; Ann Pleshette Murphy, a parenting counselor; and Stuart Ritchie, a social genetics lecturer. They delve into the hotly debated topic of parenting's influence versus genetic factors in child development. The conversation highlights key insights from twin studies, the importance of nurturing environments, and the psychological aspects of parenting. Ultimately, they challenge conventional narratives and urge parents to embrace their children's unique traits while focusing on love and support.

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Feb 17, 2025 • 39min
Humans: A Monstrous History
In this engaging conversation, historian Surekha Davies dives into the intriguing concept of monstrosity and its ties to societal fears. She discusses how narratives about monsters reflect our values and history, exploring figures who embody ‘otherness’ and the implications for race and gender. The chat also touches on the potential of alien life and how our understanding of humanity shifts in light of AI advancements. With historical context, Davies highlights the dangers of discrimination and the need for advocacy against harmful narratives.

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Feb 16, 2025 • 46min
Jonathan Sumption on the Challenges of Democracy
In this thought-provoking discussion, Jonathan Sumption, a former Justice of the Supreme Court and historian, explores the pressing issues confronting modern democracy. He delves into the disconnection between politicians and citizens, the rise of populism, and the necessity of a clear, collective identity. Sumption suggests that democracy is more than just governance; it’s a shared journey. Bring your attention to the importance of nuance in political culture as he offers insights into overcoming the challenges democracy faces today.

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Feb 14, 2025 • 36min
The Intelligence Squared Economic Outlook with Martin Wolf (Part 2)
Martin Wolf, Chief Economics Commentator at the Financial Times, shares his insights on the turbulent economic landscape of 2025. He discusses the likelihood of Donald Trump’s return to power and its impact on global trade. Wolf also highlights the ongoing conflicts in Ukraine and Gaza and their potential diplomatic fallout. He analyzes successful economic models from smaller nations like Denmark and Switzerland, while addressing the complexities of tax strategies and the challenges economists face in communicating with policymakers. Expect a thought-provoking perspective on the future!

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Feb 12, 2025 • 43min
The Intelligence Squared Economic Outlook with Martin Wolf (Part 1)
Martin Wolf, Chief Economics Commentator at the Financial Times and a distinguished financial journalist with nearly 40 years of experience, shares his insights on a turbulent economic landscape. He discusses the geopolitical shift with Trump's potential return and its implications for global trade. The conversation highlights the escalating AI race between the US and China. Wolf also addresses the UK's economic challenges, including the tension between public spending and taxation, and its effects on family businesses and farming.
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