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Latest episodes

Mar 12, 2025 • 29min
George the Poet on Music, Memory, and the War on Blackness Art & Culture (Part Two)
George Mpanga, known as George the Poet, is a powerful voice in poetry and social commentary, acclaimed for his exploration of race and inequality in the UK. In this engaging discussion, he reflects on the impact of cultural environments on identity, sharing his journey from Uganda to Cambridge. He candidly addresses the challenges of artistic expression in a commercialized music industry, the legacy of Tupac, and the implications of neoliberalism on creativity. George also dives into the intricacies of balancing activism with commercial success in the arts.

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Mar 10, 2025 • 29min
George the Poet on Music, Memory, and the War on Blackness (Part One)
George Mpanga, known as George the Poet, is a powerful voice in poetry and social commentary, addressing race and inequality in Britain. He discusses his memoir, touching on personal stories that reveal systemic oppression in today's society. The conversation highlights the transformative changes in London communities and the complexities of Black experiences. They delve into how individual success often overlooks systemic barriers and examine hip-hop's evolution, linking personal narratives to broader racial and societal issues.

Mar 9, 2025 • 1h 8min
Classic Debate: There is Nothing Wrong With Rearing and Killing Animals for Human Consumption
A.A. Gill, renowned restaurant critic for The Sunday Times, passionately defends meat consumption, sharing his personal anecdotes and cultural insights. In contrast, George Monbiot, a Guardian columnist and environmental activist, highlights the devastating environmental impacts of livestock farming and argues for a shift toward plant-based diets. The debate dives into ethical dilemmas, animal welfare, and the historical significance of meat in society, emphasizing the need for sustainable food practices while engaging the audience in a lively exchange of perspectives.

Mar 7, 2025 • 37min
Douglas Stuart on Shuggie Bain, Storytelling, and the Human Condition (Part Two)
Douglas Stuart, Booker Prize-winning author of Shuggie Bain and Young Mungo, shares insights on transforming personal stories into screen adaptations while preserving character integrity. He discusses the influence of visual storytelling on writing, his creative struggles, and the evolution of his narrative style. Stuart emphasizes the need for authentic representation of poverty and queer love in literature. His experiences in navigating societal expectations highlight the resilience and complexities faced by debut novelists, making for a poignant conversation.

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Mar 5, 2025 • 41min
Douglas Stuart on Shuggie Bain, Storytelling, and the Human Condition (Part One)
Douglas Stuart, a Booker Prize-winning author, shares his journey from Glasgow to literary acclaim with heartwarming honesty. He reflects on the emotional depth of 'Shuggie Bain' and the complexities of addiction and love. The conversation dives into the struggles of marginalized identities and the challenges of storytelling from a distance. Stuart passionately discusses Glasgow's vibrant yet challenging history, emphasizing representation and resilience in literature while addressing the financial hurdles faced by Scottish writers.

Mar 3, 2025 • 29min
Sam McAlister on Scandals, Scoops, and the Prince Andrew Interview (Part Two)
Sam McAlister, a BAFTA and Emmy-nominated producer, shares her experience behind the shocking Newsnight interview with Prince Andrew, where he famously claimed an alibi involving Pizza Express. She delves into the complexities of securing high-profile interviews, including a failed attempt at engaging President Trump. McAlister also discusses the evolving media landscape, the importance of integrity in journalism, and her personal journey transitioning from a barrister to a media powerhouse. Don't miss her insights on celebrity, accountability, and the art of negotiation.

Mar 2, 2025 • 28min
Sam McAlister on Scandals, Scoops, and the Prince Andrew Interview (Part One)
Sam McAlister, a BAFTA and Emmy-nominated interviews producer renowned for the Prince Andrew interview, shares behind-the-scenes insights into this pivotal moment in media history. She discusses the intense challenges of interviewing powerful figures and the ethical dilemmas faced in today’s journalism. McAlister also reflects on the far-reaching implications of the royal interview on public perception and accountability, as well as the creative process behind adapting her book into a Netflix film featuring talented actors.

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Feb 28, 2025 • 36min
Justin Webb on The Trump World Order (Part 2)
Justin Webb, a veteran BBC journalist and former North America editor, offers a compelling analysis of the new dynamics under Trump's administration. He explores how Trump's approach—favoring personal relationships over established international systems—shifts global power structures. Webb discusses the implications for Europe and the UK, focusing on policy changes regarding Ukraine, the Middle East, and China. He also addresses the ideological rifts between American and European values, and the challenges facing the GOP and American democracy.

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Feb 26, 2025 • 40min
Justin Webb on The Trump World Order (Part 1)
Justin Webb, a veteran BBC journalist and author, delves into the ramifications of Donald Trump's return to power. He examines how Trump’s personal approach is reshaping global politics, focusing on issues like trade and international relations. Webb contrasts Trump’s unconventional style with that of previous presidents, highlighting the complexities within his administration. He also discusses Trump’s strategic dealings with leaders like Putin and Zelensky, and the implications for NATO and the Middle East, emphasizing the shifting dynamics in international diplomacy.

Feb 24, 2025 • 1h 7min
Classic Debate: Rembrandt vs Vermeer - The Titans of Dutch Painting
Historian Simon Schama passionately defends Rembrandt, portraying him as the embodiment of humanity's raw emotional tapestry. He argues that Rembrandt's work transcends formal beauty, offering a visceral exploration of life. In contrast, author Tracey Chevalier champions Vermeer, emphasizing his magical, serene paintings that invite viewer interpretation. Chevalier reveals her lifelong obsession with Vermeer’s 'Girl with a Pearl Earring,' highlighting the intriguing mystery of his subjects. Together, they unravel the complexities and legacies of these two Dutch titans.
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