

Distance To Empty
Kevin Goldberg and Peter Noyes
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Distance To Empty will take its audience deep into the world of ultra-endurance running, with a particular focus on races exceeding 200 miles. Through in-depth interviews with athletes, race organizers and sports scientists, the episodes shed light on the unique challenges and strategies involved in tackling these extreme distances. Tune in and learn what it takes to reach your distance to empty.
Distance To Empty will take its audience deep into the world of ultra-endurance running, with a particular focus on races exceeding 200 miles. Through in-depth interviews with athletes, race organizers and sports scientists, the episodes shed light on the unique challenges and strategies involved in tackling these extreme distances. Tune in and learn what it takes to reach your distance to empty.
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Jul 21, 2025 • 1h 11min
The Anatomy of Endurance w/ Kate Havens
In this discussion with Kate Havens, an associate professor of clinical physical therapy at USC, the conversation dives into the complex dynamics of the human body during ultra-endurance events. Kate highlights the impact of long-distance running on various organ systems and the importance of pelvic floor health. The episode covers pain management, motor control, and the body's remarkable adaptability to stress. Additionally, Kate shares insights on supporting postpartum athletes and the role of proper recovery in enhancing performance for all runners.

Jul 14, 2025 • 1h 7min
Badwater 135 Race Recap w/ Peter Noyes
Become a Distance to Empty subscriber!: https://www.patreon.com/DistancetoEmptyPodWant to support us? Use code DISTANCE at Janji.com and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you!In this episode of the Distance to Empty podcast, hosts Kevin Goldberg and Peter Noyes dive into Peter's recent experience at the Badwater 135, known as the world's toughest foot race. From the scorching heat of Death Valley to the grueling climb to Whitney Portal, Peter shares his journey, the challenges faced, and the crucial role of his dedicated crew. Tune in for in-the-field audio, insights on race logistics, and a behind-the-scenes look at what it takes to conquer this legendary ultra-marathon.

Jul 7, 2025 • 1h 1min
Wild Horse 200 w/ Natalie Utting
Become a Distance to Empty subscriber!: https://www.patreon.com/DistancetoEmptyPodWant to support us? Use code DISTANCE at Janji.com and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you!In this episode, Natalie Utting shares her journey to completing the Wild Horse 200, her first 200-mile race. She discusses her training regimen, the challenges she faced during the race, including navigation and sleep strategies, and her mental approach to overcoming obstacles. Natalie reflects on her experience as the female winner of the race, the support she received from aid stations, and the stunning terrain of the Welsh landscape. She also shares insights on recovery and her future plans in ultra running.

Jul 2, 2025 • 1h 12min
Insights from the Tahoe 200 w/ Joe Corcione
Become a Distance to Empty subscriber!: https://www.patreon.com/DistancetoEmptyPodWant to support us? Use code DISTANCE at Janji.com and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you!In this episode, Joe Corcione returns to discuss his experiences with ultra running, particularly focusing on the challenges and lessons learned from the Tahoe 200-mile race. He shares insights on the physical and mental hurdles faced during the race, including the notorious 'Tahoe Lung' and the importance of sleep and strength training in endurance events. Joe emphasizes the need to embrace discomfort and take risks in order to grow as an athlete, while also reflecting on the significance of the journey over the outcome. The conversation also touches on the stakes involved in 200-mile races and the excitement of future challenges, including his plans for Cocodona 250 and the art of endurance podcasting.

Jun 23, 2025 • 1h 43min
Sleep Strategies for 200s w/ Borja Martinez Gonzalez
Become a Distance to Empty subscriber!: https://www.patreon.com/DistancetoEmptyPodWant to support us? Use code DISTANCE at Janji.com and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you!In this conversation, Borja discusses the critical role of sleep in ultra endurance events, exploring how sleep deprivation affects performance, cognitive function, and decision-making. He shares insights on effective sleep strategies for athletes, the importance of nutrition, and the science behind napping. The discussion also delves into the psychological aspects of sleep deprivation and how to recognize when it's time to rest. Borja emphasizes the need for a well-thought-out sleep plan and the potential benefits of sleep deprivation training, while also highlighting the importance of creating an optimal sleep environment for recovery.

Jun 16, 2025 • 1h 17min
Mastering Mental Strategies for 200+ Mile Races w/ Carrie Jackson
Become a Distance to Empty subscriber!: https://www.patreon.com/DistancetoEmptyPodWant to support us? Use code DISTANCE at Janji.com and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you!In this conversation, Carrie Jackson, a certified mental performance consultant, shares her insights on the mental aspects of endurance sports. She discusses the unique challenges faced by endurance athletes, the importance of understanding one's motivations, and the psychological traits common across all levels of athletes. Carrie emphasizes the need for mental skills training, especially as races approach, and explores the fine line between healthy and unhealthy athletic pursuits. In this conversation, Carrie and Peter discuss the mental strategies and coping techniques essential for ultra-endurance athletes. They explore the importance of managing emotions during races, the significance of setting realistic goals, and the necessity of recognizing one's self-worth. The discussion also delves into how to navigate post-race blues and the importance of reframing negative race experiences. Carrie emphasizes the need for mental training alongside physical preparation to enhance performance and resilience in challenging events.

Jun 9, 2025 • 1h 10min
Tahoe 200 Deep Dive! Course Preview, Tips & Strategies
Become a Distance to Empty subscriber!: https://www.patreon.com/DistancetoEmptyPodWant to support us? Use code DISTANCE at Janji.com and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you!In this episode of the Distance to Empty podcast, hosts Kevin Goldberg and Peter Noyes, along with guest Melanie White, delve into the intricacies of the 2025 Tahoe 200 ultra marathon. They discuss the course layout, significant changes for the upcoming race, and share personal experiences from previous races. The conversation covers the challenges of the first 100K, including climbs, descents, and the dynamics of out-and-back sections. They also touch on trail conditions, weather considerations, and the importance of sleep strategies during the race. In this episode, Melanie shares her experiences with allergies during the Tahoe 200 race, emphasizing the importance of preparation and self-care. Kevin and Peter discuss the challenging terrain of the Tahoe 200, including pacing strategies, weather considerations, and the significance of aid stations. They delve into personal anecdotes from previous races, highlighting the mental and physical challenges faced by runners. The conversation culminates in a discussion about the final stretch of the race and the importance of maintaining energy and focus as runners approach the finish line.

Jun 5, 2025 • 1h 5min
Cocodona 250: A Deaf Runner's Perspective w/ Alynn Davis
Become a Distance to Empty subscriber!: https://www.patreon.com/DistancetoEmptyPodWant to support us? Use code DISTANCE at Janji.com and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you!In this conversation, Alynn Davis shares her experiences as a deaf runner participating in the Cocodona 250, an ultra marathon in Arizona. She discusses her motivations for joining the race, the unique challenges she faced due to her deafness, and the importance of accommodations and communication during the event. Alynn reflects on powerful moments throughout the race, including emotional highs and lows, and expresses her commitment to returning to Cocodona in the future to continue her journey and give back to the community. In this conversation, Alynn Davis shares her experiences as a deaf runner, emphasizing the importance of inclusivity and accessibility in the running community. She discusses the challenges faced by deaf runners, the need for better communication tools during races, and the significance of patience and awareness among all runners. Alynn reflects on her personal growth through participating in events like Cocodona, highlighting the impact of community support and the shared experience of running. The conversation concludes with insights on finding one's limits and the ongoing journey of self-discovery in the sport.

Jun 2, 2025 • 1h 25min
The 200+ Mile Gear Guide
Become a Distance to Empty subscriber!: https://www.patreon.com/DistancetoEmptyPodWant to support us? Use code DISTANCE at Janji.com and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you!In this episode of the Distance to Empty podcast, hosts Kevin Goldberg and Peter Noyes dive deep into the essential gear needed for ultra marathons, particularly focusing on 200+ mile races. They share their personal experiences and recommendations, covering everything from headgear like sunglasses and headlamps to upper body clothing and hydration packs. The conversation emphasizes the importance of testing gear personally and customizing it for comfort and efficiency. Listeners can expect valuable insights into the gear that can make or break an ultra marathon experience. In this episode, Kevin Goldberg and Peter Noyes discuss essential gear for ultra running, covering topics from clothing and footwear to technology and comfort items for aid stations. They share personal experiences and preferences, debating the merits of various products and strategies for maintaining comfort and efficiency during long races. The conversation also touches on the importance of motivation and personal touches in gear selection.

May 26, 2025 • 1h 10min
Project Cocodona: Finn Melanson’s Bold Vision for the Future of 200s
Want to support us? Use code DISTANCE at Janji.com and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you!In this episode, Peter & Kevin chat with Finn Melanson . They discuss Finn's experience at the Cocodona 250 race, focusing on his ambitious goals, strategies for improvement, and reflections on performance. They delve into the importance of sleep management, training approaches, and the evolution of media coverage in ultra running. Finn shares insights on the future of 200-mile races and his vision for a cohesive team strategy in trail running. In this conversation, Finn Melanson discusses the intersection of training and storytelling in ultra running, emphasizing the importance of team dynamics and the role of the instigator in bringing ideas to life. He reflects on his upcoming challenges, including the Mammoth 200, and the balance between personal goals and media coverage. The discussion also touches on the future of ultra running, the significance of temperament in long-distance races, and personal experiences of highs and lows during races. Finn shares insights on favorite foods and gear for 200-mile races, concluding with his ongoing search for distance to empty.