
Distance To Empty
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Distance To Empty will take its audience deep into the world of ultra-endurance running, with a particular focus on races exceeding 200 miles. Through in-depth interviews with athletes, race organizers and sports scientists, the episodes shed light on the unique challenges and strategies involved in tackling these extreme distances. Tune in and learn what it takes to reach your distance to empty.
Latest episodes

Apr 23, 2025 • 18min
Georgia Porter is Flagstaff Bound at the 2025 Cocodona 250
Want to support us? Use code DISTANCE at Janji.com and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you!Welcome to our Flagstaff Bound series! We'll be hosting this series along with Aravaipa Running in the lead up to the 2025 Cocodona 250.In this episode of Flagstaff Bound, host Kevin Goldberg and co-host Peter Noyes interview ultra runner Georgia Porter, who recently set the women's supported FKT on the Arizona Trail. Georgia shares their experiences and insights from their journey, including their transition from the Arizona Trail to their upcoming participation in the Cocodona 250. The conversation delves into themes of pain, fear, joy, and the allure of multi-day racing, as well as the challenges and unknowns that come with such endurance events. Georgia emphasizes the importance of being present in the moment and managing expectations while embracing the adventure of ultra running.

Apr 22, 2025 • 17min
Andrea Moore is Flagstaff Bound at the 2025 Cocodona 250
Want to support us? Use code DISTANCE at Janji.com and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you!Welcome to our Flagstaff Bound series! We'll be hosting this series along with Aravaipa Running in the lead up to the 2025 Cocodona 250.In this episode of Flagstaff Bound, hosts Kevin Goldberg and Peter Noyes chat with Andrea Moore, a multi-time finisher of the Cocodona 250 race. They discuss the challenges and beauty of the race, the importance of staying present during the long journey, and the unique experiences that come with ultra running. Andrea shares her thoughts on the course, the culinary surprises along the way, and the camaraderie found among runners. The conversation also touches on the mental aspects of preparing for such a grueling event and the excitement of meeting new participants.

Apr 21, 2025 • 1h
Everyone's Favorite Cohost Runs the Arizona Monster 300
In this episode of the Distance to Empty podcast, hosts Kevin Goldberg and Peter Noyes dive deep into Peter's experience at the Arizona Monster 300, a grueling multi-day ultra marathon. They discuss the challenges faced during the race, including physical injuries, sleep deprivation, and the mental hurdles of endurance racing. Peter shares insights on race strategies, nutrition, and the camaraderie experienced with fellow runners. The conversation highlights the beauty of the Arizona trails, the importance of preparation, and the joy of crossing the finish line after an arduous journey. In this episode, Kevin and Peter discuss the Arizona Monster 300 race, sharing personal experiences, strategies for managing heat, and the camaraderie among runners. They reflect on the challenges faced during the race, including long stretches and mental boosts from unexpected encounters. The conversation also covers gear choices, nutrition, and highlights the achievements of fellow runners, culminating in a discussion about future goals and the importance of community in endurance sports.

Apr 21, 2025 • 19min
Andy Glaze is Flagstaff Bound at the 2025 Cocodona 250
Want to support us? Use code DISTANCE at Janji.com and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you!Welcome to our Flagstaff Bound series! We'll be hosting this series along with Aravaipa Running in the lead up to the 2025 Cocodona 250.In this episode of Distance to Empty, host Kevin Goldberg and co-host Peter Noyes sit down with ultra runner Andy Glaze to discuss his experiences with the Cocodona 250 race. They explore the reasons why Andy continues to participate in this challenging event, his strategies for maintaining a 100-mile running streak, and the difficulties of managing sleep during ultra races. Andy shares insights on embracing the pain cave, the importance of positivity, and memorable moments from past Cocodona races. The conversation also touches on the beauty of the Sedona section of the race and Andy's preparation for the upcoming event.

Apr 18, 2025 • 22min
Jesse Haynes is Flagstaff Bound at the 2025 Cocodona 250
Want to support us? Use code DISTANCE at Janji.com and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you!Welcome to our Flagstaff Bound series! We'll be hosting this series along with Aravaipa Running in the lead up to the 2025 Cocodona 250.In this episode of Distance to Empty, host Kevin Goldberg and co-host Peter Noyes sit down with ultra runner Jesse Haynes to discuss his upcoming participation in the Cocodona 250. Jesse shares his motivations for choosing this race, lessons learned from previous ultra marathons, and his mental strategies for tackling such a daunting distance. The conversation also delves into the specifics of the course, gear choices, and personal goals beyond just time and placement.

Apr 17, 2025 • 20min
Randi Zuckerberg is Flagstaff Bound at the 2025 Cocodona 250
Want to support us? Use code DISTANCE at Janji.com and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you!Welcome to our Flagstaff Bound series! We'll be hosting this series along with Aravaipa Running in the lead up to the 2025 Cocodona 250.In this episode of Flagstaff Bound, host Kevin Goldberg and co-host Peter Noyes welcome Randi Zuckerberg, a 15-time marathoner and 10-time ultra marathoner, as she prepares for the Cocodona 250. Randi shares her journey into ultra running, her motivations for participating in the race, and the unique challenges she faces as a newcomer to this distance. The conversation explores the importance of community support, the logistics of training, and the emotional aspects of preparing for such a monumental challenge. Randi's story is one of courage, determination, and the desire to inspire her children through her journey.

Apr 16, 2025 • 18min
Max Jolliffe is Flagstaff Bound at the 2025 Cocodona 250
Want to support us? Use code DISTANCE at Janji.com and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you!Welcome to our Flagstaff Bound series! We'll be hosting this series along with Aravaipa Running in the lead up to the 2025 Cocodona 250.In this episode of Flagstaff Bound, host Kevin Goldberg and co-host Peter Noyes sit down with ultra runner Max Jolliffe, who shares his journey into the world of ultra marathons, particularly focusing on the upcoming Cocodona 250. Max discusses his experiences, training strategies, and the mental challenges faced during long races. He reflects on his growth as a runner, the importance of consistency in training, and the influence of fellow runners like Jesse Haynes. The conversation also touches on race preparation, the beauty of the Cocodona course, and what success means beyond just finishing times.

Apr 14, 2025 • 19min
Harry Subertas is Flagstaff Bound at the 2025 Cocodona 250
Want to support us? Use code DISTANCE at Janji.com and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you!Welcome to our Flagstaff Bound series! We'll be hosting this series along with Aravaipa Running in the lead up to the 2025 Cocodona 250.In this episode of Distance to Empty, host Kevin Goldberg and co-host Peter Noyes sit down with Harry Subertas, the reigning champion of the Cocodona 250. They discuss Harry's incredible performance last year, the challenges he faced, and his strategies for the upcoming race. Harry shares insights on the importance of community support, course knowledge, and personal motivation in ultra running. The conversation also touches on the evolution of the Cocodona race and Harry's favorite gear for the event.

Apr 11, 2025 • 18min
Courtney Dauwalter is Flagstaff Bound at the 2025 Cocodona 250
Want to support us? Use code DISTANCE at Janji.com and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you!Welcome to our Flagstaff Bound series! We'll be hosting this series along with Aravaipa Running in the lead up to the 2025 Cocodona 250.In this episode of Distance to Empty, host Kevin Goldberg and co-host Peter Noyes welcome ultra running legend Courtney Dauwalter to discuss her upcoming participation in the Cocodona 250 race. They explore Courtney's experiences with 200-mile races, the competitive landscape of ultra running, and her unique mindset towards the challenges of long-distance running. The conversation delves into training strategies, the significance of the pain cave, and the anticipation of the race course, culminating in a light-hearted discussion about race day expectations and crew dynamics.

Apr 9, 2025 • 22min
Allison Powell is Flagstaff Bound at the 2025 Cocodona 250
Want to support us? Use code DISTANCE at Janji.com and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you!Welcome to our Flagstaff Bound series! We'll be hosting this series along with Aravaipa Running in the lead up to the 2025 Cocodona 250.In this episode of Flagstaff Bound, host Kevin Goldberg and co-host Peter Noyes welcome ultra runner Alison Powell, who shares her unique approach to the Cocodona 250 race. Alison discusses her creative race plan, which is themed around popular movies and shows, and how this strategy helps her stay engaged and motivated during the grueling 200-mile race. She also shares insights on her logistical preparations, including a new sleep strategy, and her involvement in empowering women in ultra running. The conversation highlights the importance of community, creativity, and personal enjoyment in endurance sports.