

Distance To Empty
Kevin Goldberg and Peter Noyes
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Distance To Empty will take its audience deep into the world of ultra-endurance running, with a particular focus on races exceeding 200 miles. Through in-depth interviews with athletes, race organizers and sports scientists, the episodes shed light on the unique challenges and strategies involved in tackling these extreme distances. Tune in and learn what it takes to reach your distance to empty.
Distance To Empty will take its audience deep into the world of ultra-endurance running, with a particular focus on races exceeding 200 miles. Through in-depth interviews with athletes, race organizers and sports scientists, the episodes shed light on the unique challenges and strategies involved in tackling these extreme distances. Tune in and learn what it takes to reach your distance to empty.
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Apr 29, 2025 • 17min
Sarah Ostaszewski is Flagstaff Bound at the 2025 Cocodona 250
Want to support us? Use code DISTANCE at Janji.com and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you!Welcome to our Flagstaff Bound series! We'll be hosting this series along with Aravaipa Running in the lead up to the 2025 Cocodona 250.In this episode of Flagstaff Bound, host Kevin Goldberg and co-host Peter Noyes engage with Sarah Ostaszewski, a prominent figure in the Cocodona 250 race. They discuss Sarah's journey from her debut in 2021 to her winning performance in 2023, exploring her motivations, strategies, and the evolution of her racing experience. The conversation delves into the importance of self-management, the growing presence of women in ultra running, and the unique challenges of the Cocodona course. Sarah shares her insights on preparing for the race, her favorite and least favorite sections, and her goals for the upcoming event, emphasizing the joy of running and the support of her crew.

Apr 28, 2025 • 21min
Michael Versteeg is Flagstaff Bound at the 2025 Cocodona 250
Want to support us? Use code DISTANCE at Janji.com and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you!Welcome to our Flagstaff Bound series! We'll be hosting this series along with Aravaipa Running in the lead up to the 2025 Cocodona 250.In this episode of Distance to Empty, host Kevin Goldberg and co-host Peter Noyes sit down with Michael Versteeg, the original champion of the Cocodona 250. They discuss the unique experiences of the inaugural race, the evolution of Cocodona over the years, and the challenges of multi-day endurance racing. Versteeg shares his personal connection to the race, the importance of sustainability in ultra running, and what keeps him coming back each year. The conversation also touches on the anticipation for the upcoming race and reflections on the journey of ultra running.

Apr 28, 2025 • 1h 22min
2025 Cocodona 250 Deep Dive! Course Preview, Tips & Strategies w/ Special Guest Joe Corcione
In this episode of the Distance to Empty podcast, hosts Kevin Goldberg and Peter Noyes, along with special guest Joe Corcione, provide an in-depth preview of the Cocodona 250 ultra marathon. They discuss the course layout, share valuable tips for runners, crew, and pacers, and highlight the importance of hydration and preparation for the challenging sections of the race. The conversation covers each segment of the race, emphasizing the mental and physical strategies needed to succeed in this grueling event. In this segment of the conversation, Kevin,20 Peter and Joe Corcione discuss various sections of the Cocodona 250 race, focusing on the challenges and strategies for navigating the course. They delve into the importance of managing sleep, the technical difficulties of the Mingus descent, and the beauty of the Dead Horse to Deer Pass section. The conversation also highlights the new Hangover Trail and the significance of Muns Park as a sleep station, emphasizing the mental and physical endurance required for the race. In this episode, the hosts discuss the challenges and strategies for the Cocodona 250 race, focusing on key sections like Fort Tuttle to Walnut Canyon and the final push to the finish. They explore the mental and physical demands of ultra running, the importance of pacing and support, and the new trail changes for this year's race. The conversation also touches on personal growth through endurance racing and predictions for future events.

Apr 27, 2025 • 19min
Finn Melanson is Flagstaff Bound at the 2025 Cocodona 250
Want to support us? Use code DISTANCE at Janji.com and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you!Welcome to our Flagstaff Bound series! We'll be hosting this series along with Aravaipa Running in the lead up to the 2025 Cocodona 250.In this episode of Flagstaff Bound, host Kevin Goldberg and co-host Peter Noyes interview Finn Melanson, a seasoned ultra runner preparing for his second Cocodona250. They discuss Finn's journey into the world of 200-mile races, his reflections on last year's performance, and the evolving strategies in training and racing. Finn shares insights from top athletes, his approach to sleep during races, and the importance of adapting training methods. The conversation also touches on the beauty and challenges of the Cocodona250 course, gear selection, and personal aspirations beyond race results.

Apr 25, 2025 • 17min
Coree Woltering is Flagstaff Bound at the 2025 Cocodona 250
Want to support us? Use code DISTANCE at Janji.com and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you!Welcome to our Flagstaff Bound series! We'll be hosting this series along with Aravaipa Running in the lead up to the 2025 Cocodona 250.In this episode of Flagstaff Bound, host Kevin Goldberg and co-host Peter Noyes welcome ultra runner Coree Woltering, who reflects on his experiences from the inaugural Cocodona 250 in 2021 and discusses his journey since then, including significant life changes and a new mindset going into the 2025 race. Coree shares insights on his preparation, strategy, and the evolution of the Cocodona race, highlighting the growing competitiveness and community support surrounding ultra running. The conversation emphasizes the importance of enjoying the experience and creating memorable moments with crew and pacers during the race.

Apr 23, 2025 • 18min
Georgia Porter is Flagstaff Bound at the 2025 Cocodona 250
Want to support us? Use code DISTANCE at Janji.com and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you!Welcome to our Flagstaff Bound series! We'll be hosting this series along with Aravaipa Running in the lead up to the 2025 Cocodona 250.In this episode of Flagstaff Bound, host Kevin Goldberg and co-host Peter Noyes interview ultra runner Georgia Porter, who recently set the women's supported FKT on the Arizona Trail. Georgia shares their experiences and insights from their journey, including their transition from the Arizona Trail to their upcoming participation in the Cocodona 250. The conversation delves into themes of pain, fear, joy, and the allure of multi-day racing, as well as the challenges and unknowns that come with such endurance events. Georgia emphasizes the importance of being present in the moment and managing expectations while embracing the adventure of ultra running.

Apr 22, 2025 • 17min
Andrea Moore is Flagstaff Bound at the 2025 Cocodona 250
Want to support us? Use code DISTANCE at Janji.com and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you!Welcome to our Flagstaff Bound series! We'll be hosting this series along with Aravaipa Running in the lead up to the 2025 Cocodona 250.In this episode of Flagstaff Bound, hosts Kevin Goldberg and Peter Noyes chat with Andrea Moore, a multi-time finisher of the Cocodona 250 race. They discuss the challenges and beauty of the race, the importance of staying present during the long journey, and the unique experiences that come with ultra running. Andrea shares her thoughts on the course, the culinary surprises along the way, and the camaraderie found among runners. The conversation also touches on the mental aspects of preparing for such a grueling event and the excitement of meeting new participants.

Apr 21, 2025 • 1h
Everyone's Favorite Cohost Runs the Arizona Monster 300
In this episode of the Distance to Empty podcast, hosts Kevin Goldberg and Peter Noyes dive deep into Peter's experience at the Arizona Monster 300, a grueling multi-day ultra marathon. They discuss the challenges faced during the race, including physical injuries, sleep deprivation, and the mental hurdles of endurance racing. Peter shares insights on race strategies, nutrition, and the camaraderie experienced with fellow runners. The conversation highlights the beauty of the Arizona trails, the importance of preparation, and the joy of crossing the finish line after an arduous journey. In this episode, Kevin and Peter discuss the Arizona Monster 300 race, sharing personal experiences, strategies for managing heat, and the camaraderie among runners. They reflect on the challenges faced during the race, including long stretches and mental boosts from unexpected encounters. The conversation also covers gear choices, nutrition, and highlights the achievements of fellow runners, culminating in a discussion about future goals and the importance of community in endurance sports.

Apr 21, 2025 • 19min
Andy Glaze is Flagstaff Bound at the 2025 Cocodona 250
Want to support us? Use code DISTANCE at Janji.com and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you!Welcome to our Flagstaff Bound series! We'll be hosting this series along with Aravaipa Running in the lead up to the 2025 Cocodona 250.In this episode of Distance to Empty, host Kevin Goldberg and co-host Peter Noyes sit down with ultra runner Andy Glaze to discuss his experiences with the Cocodona 250 race. They explore the reasons why Andy continues to participate in this challenging event, his strategies for maintaining a 100-mile running streak, and the difficulties of managing sleep during ultra races. Andy shares insights on embracing the pain cave, the importance of positivity, and memorable moments from past Cocodona races. The conversation also touches on the beauty of the Sedona section of the race and Andy's preparation for the upcoming event.

Apr 18, 2025 • 22min
Jesse Haynes is Flagstaff Bound at the 2025 Cocodona 250
Want to support us? Use code DISTANCE at Janji.com and be sure to select 'podcast' > 'Distance to Empty' on the post purchase "How did you hear about Janji" page. Thank you!Welcome to our Flagstaff Bound series! We'll be hosting this series along with Aravaipa Running in the lead up to the 2025 Cocodona 250.In this episode of Distance to Empty, host Kevin Goldberg and co-host Peter Noyes sit down with ultra runner Jesse Haynes to discuss his upcoming participation in the Cocodona 250. Jesse shares his motivations for choosing this race, lessons learned from previous ultra marathons, and his mental strategies for tackling such a daunting distance. The conversation also delves into the specifics of the course, gear choices, and personal goals beyond just time and placement.