
PocketGamer.biz Podcast
Welcome to your regular glimpse into the business of mobile games. Featuring interviews with games industry experts! Your hosts are the insiders at PocketGamer.biz, the top B2B site for the mobile games industry. It covers the people, technology and deals that drive this multi-billion dollar sector. In our ongoing podcast, you’ll hear the editorial team and their guests dive into the topics and themes at the forefront of the industry. You’ll get unique insight and exclusive Q and As, taking you behind the scenes on the international mobile games scene.
Latest episodes

Nov 4, 2024 • 47min
Week in Mobile Games E35 - Facebook Instant Games is back! | Games First 2024 takeaways
PocketGamer.biz head of content Craig Chapple and deputy editor Paige Cook discuss the latest mobile games industry news from the past week.
On this week's episode we discuss Facebook Instant Games finally enabling in-app purchases on iOS, the legal view of Nintendo's Palworld case, and provide key takeaways from Games First Helsinki 2024.
** Let's Connect **
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👉🏻 Pocket Gamer Connects - https://www.pgconnects.com
👉🏻Pocket Gamer Connects Speaker Submission form - https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdoS5n-vdHu6aU-2d_rR7x1FAgewG51y3nlU1aB8RdetiKaGw/viewform
👉🏻Pocket Gamer Mobile Games Awards Winners - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/mga2024/winners/
👉🏻 The Top 50 Mobile Game Makers 2024 - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/the-top-50-mobile-game-makers-of-2024/👉🏻 Everything is a games platform - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/everything-is-a-games-platform/
👉🏻 4 takeaways from Supercell’s Games First Helsinki 2024 - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/4-takeaways-from-supercells-games-first-helsinki-2024/
👉🏻 Remember Facebook Instant Games? It’s back - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/remember-facebook-instant-games-its-back/
👉🏻 Nintendo and The Pokémon Company vs. Pocket Pair: Understanding the details - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/nintendo-and-the-pokemon-company-vs-pocket-pair-understanding-the-details/

Oct 29, 2024 • 47min
How One Studio Stays Succesful When Shift Happens
Resilience, grit, and a gut feeling about good talent separate average studios from great ones and determine which can stand the test of time. Few people hit the mark on all three, like Iron Fox Games Founder and CEO Ryan Filsinger. With a legacy of iconic IPs, including The Simpsons, Star Wars, and Marvel, Ryan’s insights stem from 17 years of industry experience and a mindset geared toward endurance. Ryan tells our hosts Peggy Anne Salz and Brian Baglow how studios can push through the unexpected, from the loss of key clients to evolving revenue models, and he unpacks strategies Iron Fox uses to diversify risk, sustain client relationships, and balance in-house projects with work-for-hire. He also dives into how Iron Fox is tapping into web platforms to preserve and modernize classic games for today’s players, providing a home for retro titles that may otherwise stay stuck in the past with changing hardware and software standards. From identifying the right monetization model to embracing new platforms, this conversation equips founders and developers with actionable advice to build studios that can go the distance when shift happens.
CHAPTER TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Intro
02:07 - An island journey into games
04:24 - Iron Fox Games
09:43 - Preserving classic games with web
14:40 - The power of the browser
16:40 - Everything old is new
17:50 - What to do when shift happens
24:16 - How to keep clients on your roster
29:58 - Talent non-negotiables
33:05 - Hitting 10M
36:02 - What's next at Iron Fox
39:27 - Where indie studios should focus energy
41:11 - Building something to last
42:40 - Favourite games Q&A
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Check out more world-class speakers sharing their insights and expertise at one of our events. You can find details of our next event here - https://www.pgconnects.com/next-event

Oct 28, 2024 • 1h 2min
Week in Mobile Games E34 - Subscription without upsell is death! And IDFA changes are good now?
PocketGamer.biz head of content Craig Chapple and Fundamentally Games CEO Oscar Clark discuss the latest mobile games industry news from the past week.
On this week's episode we discuss the closure of Netflix's triple-A studio Team Blue, new developer Antihero's comments that Apple's IDFA changes were good for the industry, and the rise of India's mobile games market.
** Let's Connect **
👉🏻 Twitter - https://twitter.com/pgbiz
👉🏻 LinkedIn Group - https://www.linkedin.com/company/pocketgamer-biz/
👉🏻 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/PGbiz
👉🏻 Website - https://www.pocketgamer.biz
👉🏻 Pocket Gamer Connects - https://www.pgconnects.com
👉🏻Pocket Gamer Connects Speaker Submission form - https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdoS5n-vdHu6aU-2d_rR7x1FAgewG51y3nlU1aB8RdetiKaGw/viewform
👉🏻Pocket Gamer Mobile Games Awards Winners - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/mga2024/winners/
👉🏻 The Top 50 Mobile Game Makers 2024 - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/the-top-50-mobile-game-makers-of-2024/👉🏻 Everything is a games platform - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/everything-is-a-games-platform/
👉🏻 Netflix closes 'triple-A' studio Team Blue and cuts ties with senior hires - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/netflix-closes-triple-a-studio-team-blue-and-cuts-ties-with-senior-hires/
👉🏻 Why the ex-Supercell and King devs at Antihero think IDFA changes are a positive turn for the mobile games industry - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/why-the-ex-supercell-and-king-devs-at-antihero-think-idfa-is-a-positive-turn-for-the-mobile-games-industry/

Oct 23, 2024 • 21min
Exploring Alternatives: Mobile Gaming’s Megatrend for 2025
Alternative distribution channels and app stores are exploding onto the scene and are positioned to be the key growth drivers for mobile gaming in 2025. They offer new revenue streams—and they reshape how developers engage their audiences, optimize their growth strategies, and build trust in a more open ecosystem. Significantly, players also have a huge appetite for alternatives, especially if they offer more choice and less friction. Digital Turbine research reports that nearly 70% of users would use new discoverability features—if they were available—to find and download cool new games. This week, savvy studio leaders and growth gurus at Gamesforum Hamburg weigh in on things alternative, from app stores and alternative monetisation methods to the channels that are “gathering storm” and set to redefine mobile gaming in 2025.
CHAPTER TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Intro
02:58 - Tobias Edl | WHoW games
11:02 - Ryan Davies| Kwalee
14:23 - Anastasia Zaiceva | ZiMAD
15:35 - Oguz Ayar | Voodoo
16:37 - Matej Lancaric | Lancaric.me
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** Let's Connect **
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👉🏻 Website - https://www.pocketgamer.biz
Check out more world-class speakers sharing their insights and expertise at one of our events. You can find details of our next event here - https://www.pgconnects.com/next-event

Oct 21, 2024 • 42min
Week in Mobile Games E33 - Destiny: Rising heads to mobile and Unity's charm offensive
Craig Chapple and Aaron Astle from the PocketGamer.biz team discuss the latest mobile games industry news from the past week.
On this week's episode the team discusses the launch of Unity 6, executive departures at Stillfront and Supercell, and the news that Destiny: Rising is heading to mobile.
** Let's Connect **
👉🏻 Twitter - https://twitter.com/pgbiz
👉🏻 LinkedIn Group - https://www.linkedin.com/company/pocketgamer-biz/
👉🏻 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/PGbiz
👉🏻 Website - https://www.pocketgamer.biz
👉🏻 Pocket Gamer Connects - https://www.pgconnects.com
👉🏻Pocket Gamer Connects Speaker Submission form - https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdoS5n-vdHu6aU-2d_rR7x1FAgewG51y3nlU1aB8RdetiKaGw/viewform
👉🏻Pocket Gamer Mobile Games Awards Winners - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/mga2024/winners/
👉🏻 The Top 50 Mobile Game Makers 2024 - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/the-top-50-mobile-game-makers-of-2024/
👉🏻 NetEase partners with Bungie for Destiny: Rising mobile game - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/netease-partners-with-bungie-for-destiny-rising-mobile-game/
👉🏻 Unity 6 goes live: Under the hood of the game engine's latest AI, web and mobile tools - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/unity-6-goes-live-under-the-hood-of-the-game-engines-latest-ai-web-and-mobile-tools/

Oct 15, 2024 • 49min
How to Reinvent Yourself During an Industry Downturn
As our host Brian Baglow always says, “If there’s one constant in the games’ industry, it’s change.” In this episode, we switch gears from talking about how to make winning titles to discussing a winning strategy that will allow you to ride the waves of change—not be crushed by them. Faith Price, Director of Growth Marketing at DoubleDown Interactive, and Gwen Kestrel, digital marketer, educator, and co-founder of Bold Cat Studios, join Peggy Anne Salz and Brian to dive into how to reinvent yourself during a downturn—something both of them have done more than once. Whether you’re facing a layoff, pivoting careers, or future-proofing your skills, learn how to turn setbacks into opportunities—from leveraging your network to building a ‘feel-good book’ and even designing a custom role for yourself. Tune in to discover how to stay resilient, relevant, and ready to thrive, no matter what the market looks like.
CHAPTER TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Intro
03:45 - Gwen's journey
05:21 - Mentally preparing for change
10:20 - Tools to be comfortable with uncertainty
13:44 - Creating a role for yourself
18:12 - Apply for the job you aren't qualified for
21:50 - Identify what brings you joy
27:13 - Feeling lost
29:30 - Leaning on your network
32:51 - Brian's advice
34:29 - How AI can help
41:50 - Advice on starting over
44:45 - Favourite games Q&A
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** Let's Connect **
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👉🏻 Website - https://www.pocketgamer.biz
Check out more world-class speakers sharing their insights and expertise at one of our events. You can find details of our next event here - https://www.pgconnects.com/next-event

Oct 12, 2024 • 58min
Week in Mobile Games E32 - Google Play's Judgement Day
Craig Chapple, Paige Cook and Aaron Astle from the PocketGamer.biz team discuss the latest mobile games industry news from the past week.
On this week's episode the team breaks down the recent ruling in the Epic vs Google case that will force Google Play to open up its store. We also speculate wildly on the options open to Scopely for its 'megadeal' in 2025, cover the reports that Ubisoft could go private following a tough few months for the publisher, and talk about an alarming development from Nintendo.
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👉🏻 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/PGbiz
👉🏻 Website - https://www.pocketgamer.biz
👉🏻 Pocket Gamer Connects - https://www.pgconnects.com
👉🏻Pocket Gamer Connects Speaker Submission form - https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdoS5n-vdHu6aU-2d_rR7x1FAgewG51y3nlU1aB8RdetiKaGw/viewform
👉🏻Pocket Gamer Mobile Games Awards Winners - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/mga2024/winners/
👉🏻 The Top 50 Mobile Game Makers 2024 - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/the-top-50-mobile-game-makers-of-2024/
👉🏻 Google Play’s Judgement Day - Does it matter? - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/google-plays-judgement-day-does-it-matter/

Oct 5, 2024 • 47min
Week in Mobile Games E31 - The Top 50 Mobile Game Makers 2024 revealed! Plus takeaways from PGC Helsinki
Craig Chapple, Paige Cook and Aaron Astle from the PocketGamer.biz team discuss the latest mobile games industry news from the past week.
On this week's episode the team discuss the Top 50 Mobile Game Makers 2024 list and what it tells us about industry trends, takeaways from Pocket Gamer Connects Helsinki and Finnish Games Week, Epic's new fees for Unreal Engine and the Epic Games Store, and more!
** Let's Connect **
👉🏻 Twitter - https://twitter.com/pgbiz
👉🏻 LinkedIn Group - https://www.linkedin.com/company/pocketgamer-biz/
👉🏻 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/PGbiz
👉🏻 Website - https://www.pocketgamer.biz
👉🏻 Pocket Gamer Connects - https://www.pgconnects.com
👉🏻Pocket Gamer Connects Speaker Submission form - https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdoS5n-vdHu6aU-2d_rR7x1FAgewG51y3nlU1aB8RdetiKaGw/viewform
👉🏻Pocket Gamer Mobile Games Awards Winners - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/mga2024/winners/
👉🏻 The Top 50 Mobile Game Makers 2024 - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/the-top-50-mobile-game-makers-of-2024/
👉🏻 4 takeaways from Pocket Gamer Connects Helsinki and Finnish Games Week 2024 - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/4-takeaways-from-pocket-gamer-connects-helsinki-and-finnish-games-week-2024/
👉🏻What the Top 50 Mobile Game Makers 2024 tells us about industry trends - https://www.pocketgamer.biz/what-the-top-50-mobile-game-makers-2024-tells-us-about-industry-trends/

Sep 29, 2024 • 35min
Week in Mobile Games E30 - Ubisoft's woes and Genshin Impact hits $6bn in four years(!)
This week, the hosts dive into Ubisoft's notable delays and challenges, revealing the impact on their stock prices. They discuss Genshin Impact's monumental achievement, reaching $6.3 billion in just four years while facing some hurdles. The conversation also addresses Netflix's expansion into gaming with a new title related to Lord of the Rings and explores the role of AI in language learning, spotlighting Duolingo's innovative approach. It's a fascinating look at the vibrant yet complex world of mobile gaming.

Sep 24, 2024 • 43min
Turning Metrics Into Mobile Wins with Safia Dawood
Safia Dawood, a Senior Data Scientist at Moloco with a rich background at major tech companies like Ubisoft and Meta, dives into the complexities of data in mobile gaming. She highlights how data alone doesn't drive success; context is crucial. Safia discusses market trends, the importance of remarketing, and strategies to boost engagement and repeat purchases. She also reveals insights into what top-performing games are doing differently and identifies emerging trends that developers should watch closely for future growth.