
When It Hits the Fan
Inside the world of crisis managers and spin doctors as David Yelland and Simon Lewis watch the week's biggest PR disasters unfold. In each episode our hosts go behind the scenes of the latest news stories and find out how, where and when it all began to hit the fan. When It Hits The Fan is hosted by two of the most influential and experienced people in the game; David Yelland is the former editor of the Sun and alongside him is Simon Lewis, former trouble-shooter for the Queen and Gordon Brown, as well as for major corporations like the Nat West, Vodafone and British Gas. Together they bring decades of experience in both creating and managing crises. They'll share all they know about what's keeping those big stories in and out of the news.
Latest episodes

Sep 24, 2024 • 28min
Al Fayed revelations, and the Murdoch succession battle
Mohamed Al Fayed, the former Harrods boss entangled in serious allegations, joins media expert David Yelland and analyst Simon Lewis to discuss disturbing insights into power and accountability. They delve into the circling indictments around Al Fayed's past, reflecting on media complicity in allowing abuse to thrive. Meanwhile, the trio sheds light on the tumultuous succession battle within the Murdoch family, exploring how their internal conflicts could reshape global media's political landscape and influence.

Sep 17, 2024 • 28min
BBC in crisis, laughing at Trump and the elephant in the room
Huw Edwards, a renowned news presenter, dives into the BBC's recent crisis, discussing how the network manages public scrutiny and reputation. The conversation takes a humorous turn as Donald Trump faces backlash for his bizarre comments about pets during a debate with Vice President Kamala Harris. They explore the deeper implications of PR in politics and why untouchable topics often become central to reputation management. Join them as they peel back the layers on these pressing issues with wit and insight.

Sep 10, 2024 • 29min
Kate’s video and Labour PR in power
David Yelland and Simon Lewis discuss the Princess of Wales’ unprecedented video announcing the end of her chemotherapy treatment. There has been nothing like it in the history of the Royal Family's communications and it’s a move that rewrites how they speak to people. Does it come with risks?Also, what have we learnt about how the Labour government is handling its PR? We look at leaning into unpopularity in an age of populism, and moving Margaret Thatcher’s portrait, and reveal the secret tactics used by the government to reach rioters in the summer. Producer: Eve Streeter
Editor: Sarah Teasdale
Executive Producer: William Miller
Music by Eclectic Sounds
A Raconteur production for BBC Radio 4

Aug 28, 2024 • 9min
Quick Wins: How to Lead
David and Simon share their advice on how to lead

Aug 21, 2024 • 7min
Quick Wins: How to Deal with Online Abuse
David and Simon share their advice on how to deal with online abuse.

Aug 15, 2024 • 46min
When It Hits The Fan x Today Podcast Summer special: Is journalism in crisis?
Amol and Nick use their decades of experience as journalists to discuss the future of news in this special episode of The Today Podcast. Joining them are Sun editor David Yelland and former No10 communications director Simon Lewis – the duo behind Radio 4’s When It Hits The Fan – to look at what’s happening in journalism, where the future lies for the profession... and why it really matters for us all.The senior producer is Tom Smithard, the producer is Hatty Nash, research and digital production from Joe Wilkinson. The editor is Louisa Lewis. The executive producer is Owenna Griffiths. Technical production from Jack Graysmark.

Aug 14, 2024 • 9min
Quick Wins: How to Deal with Backstabbers
David and Simon share their advice on how to deal with backstabbers.

Aug 7, 2024 • 9min
Quick Wins: How to Get Ahead When You're Shy
David and Simon share their advice on how to get ahead when you're shy.

Jul 31, 2024 • 11min
Quick Wins: The Nine Circles of Media Hell
David Yelland and Simon Lewis share their tips on dealing with the media

Jul 23, 2024 • 7min
Quick Wins: How to break unwelcome news
Quick Wins is a series of mini episodes from the When It Hits the Fan team to steer you through your own personal PR in your working life.In this episode, David and Simon answer listener Joe's question about how to deliver difficult information that people may not want to hear. Getting the tone right is crucial, tell it like it is and be visible.Producer: Eve Streeter
Executive Producer: William Miller
Music by Eclectic Sounds
A Raconteur production for BBC Radio 4
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