
M&A Science
M&A Science, hosted by Kison Patel (Founder & CEO of DealRoom), is your go-to podcast for mastering the art of mergers and acquisitions. Each week, Kison and his expert guests from leading brands like Xerox, FastLap, and Cisco dig deep into real-world M&A strategies, offering actionable insights to optimize your M&A practice.
Whether you're an experienced practitioner or new to the field, M&A Science provides practical advice on key topics like sourcing, due diligence, integration, divestitures, and more. With over 300 episodes, this podcast is the premier thought leadership resource designed to streamline your deal-making process.
Start listening today and visit mascience.com/podcast to access over 300 episodes. Brought to you by DealRoom, the leading M&A optimization platform used by the best M&A teams around the world
Latest episodes

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Apr 17, 2025 • 1h 4min
How Barry-Wehmiller Built a $3.6B M&A Machine Fueled by Culture with Bob and Kyle Chapman
Bob Chapman, Chairman and CEO of Barry-Wehmiller, and his son Kyle Chapman, President of Barry-Wehmiller Group, share insights on building a $3.6 billion business through human-centric leadership. They emphasize the paramount importance of cultural alignment over revenue in M&A strategies. The duo discusses how their company transformed by prioritizing people and relationships, offering tactical guidance on structuring successful acquisitions. Their innovative approach combines transparency and stewardship, making M&A a force for good.

Apr 14, 2025 • 41min
How to Build a Global M&A Machine with Local Expertise Part 2
Sindre Talleraas Holen, Head of M&A at Visma, shares his expertise in global deal execution and valuation strategies. He discusses how Visma operates with extreme clarity on acquisitions, emphasizing the importance of local advisors over centralized consultants. Sindre reveals the significance of the Rule of 40 and 50 in valuation, and why they prefer an onboarding philosophy post-acquisition instead of integration. This insightful conversation uncovers the complexities of M&A in different geographies, focusing on building a scalable playbook.

Apr 10, 2025 • 47min
How to Build a Global M&A Machine with Sindre Talleraas Holen Part 1
Sindre Talleraas Holen, Head of M&A at Visma, transformed the company into a B2B SaaS powerhouse with over 350 acquisitions. He shares the unexpected success of a cold email that led to his pivotal role. The conversation delves into the importance of local presence and cultural nuances in M&A, highlighting Visma's buyer-led strategy. Sindre emphasizes internal alignment as key to deal success and discusses the complexities of valuing SaaS companies, especially across different markets. His insights promise a roadmap for effective global M&A.

Apr 7, 2025 • 58min
Transforming M&A: Lessons in Culture, Growth, and Purpose with Ron 'Omani' Carson
Ron 'Omani' Carson, founder of the Carson Group and Omya, shares his inspiring journey from launching a financial firm in his college dorm to managing over $30 billion in assets. He reflects on his first challenging M&A deal and how it shaped his understanding of success and connection. Omani discusses his transformative mindset shift toward love and abundance, emphasizing the importance of mental wellness in business. He also explores conscious capitalism and how merging personal joy with professional purpose can create a thriving workplace culture.

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Apr 3, 2025 • 52min
Private Equity in Healthcare: Legal Challenges and Best Practices for 2025 with Andrew Bab
Andrew Bab, Partner & Co-Chair of the Healthcare Group at Debevoise & Plimpton LLP, shares his expertise in healthcare M&A. He discusses the rapidly evolving regulatory landscape impacting private equity, highlighting state-level regulations and the implications of reverse CFIUS. Bab also delves into the complexities of Contingent Value Rights in pharma deals and how new HSR rules are reshaping auction timelines. Political scrutiny and the need for buyer-led strategies in healthcare M&A are key themes, offering vital insights for industry professionals.

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Mar 31, 2025 • 1h 12min
Private Equity in 2025: Market Shifts, Strategy, and the Rise of AI
Hugh MacArthur, Chairman of Global Private Equity Practice at Bain & Company, shares insights from his 30 years in private equity. He discusses the shift from traditional financing to tech-driven strategies in deal-making. Hugh highlights the evolving role of AI and data analytics in enhancing decision-making. The conversation also covers adapting to rising interest rates and the importance of sourcing and value creation. He emphasizes demographic trends that shape investment opportunities and the need for transparency between general and limited partners.

Mar 27, 2025 • 1h 6min
How to Navigate Bankruptcy and Restructuring in M&A
Ben Beller, a Partner at Sullivan & Cromwell LLP, specializes in bankruptcy and restructuring, with experience in high-profile cases like FTX and Silicon Valley Bank. In this discussion, he dives into the differences between Chapter 7 and Chapter 11 bankruptcies, highlighting strategies for navigating these processes. He emphasizes the importance of liability management transactions and offers insights on acquiring distressed assets. Ben also sheds light on the emotional dynamics in bankruptcy court, making it essential for M&A professionals to stay vigilant.

Mar 24, 2025 • 53min
How to be a Serial Acquirer from Scratch
Ashish Achlerkar, Founder and Chairman of NearU, discusses his journey from investment banking to building a thriving business in the skilled trades. He reveals how he leverages M&A to fuel entrepreneurial growth and addresses the unique opportunities in this fragmented industry. Ashish shares insights on crafting a strong investment thesis, the importance of cultural alignment with private equity partners, and strategies for enhancing customer experience through technology. His journey is a masterclass in turning challenges into opportunities.

Mar 17, 2025 • 44min
The People-Centric Approach to M&A Success
Michael Hoy, Executive Vice Chairman of Great Day Improvements, shares his expertise on people-centric M&A strategies that focus on culture over cost-cutting. He discusses the vital role of trust and transparency in smooth integrations, and how aligning financials early can streamline transitions. Michael also emphasizes building strong relationships and a referral-based growth model, showcasing how a people-first philosophy can not only enhance company culture but also drive sustainable growth in the competitive realm of mergers and acquisitions.

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Mar 10, 2025 • 1h 11min
Mastering Serial Acquisitions
Gwen Pope, Senior Managing Partner at Tiger Team M&A, specializes in serial acquisitions, while Tracie Smith leads GTM Solutions with deep expertise in M&A integration. They explore the intricacies of serial acquisitions, emphasizing the importance of a repeatable M&A framework and a clear 'North Star' strategy. Key highlights include the role of executive leadership alignment in deal execution, common integration pitfalls, and effective communication strategies to navigate post-acquisition challenges. Their insights are invaluable for optimizing M&A playbooks.
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