

The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill
Michael Mogill
How can you become a game changer?Michael Mogill, Founder and CEO of Crisp, has used his mastery of marketing for lawyers to grow his company to an 8-figure powerhouse. In just a few years, Crisp has helped thousands of attorneys adapt to the new legal landscape, differentiate themselves from the competition, and earn millions in new revenue.In every episode, you’ll hear from law firm entrepreneurs and market leaders — people who flourish in the face of adversity, challenge the status quo, and define what it means to be a game changer.We investigate success stories and business growth and scalability strategies that can help you attract your ideal clients. Plus, discover hidden insights and actionable advice on how company culture and employee engagement, marketing and advertising, and management and hiring fit into the big picture.What do all our guests have in common? These successful attorneys and business owners prove that the key to innovation is a game-changing mindset. If you want to run your law firm like an entrepreneur, achieve a greater ROI, and build a world-class organization that stands the test of time, then you’re in good company.Subscribe to the Game Changing Attorney Podcast and get ready to take your business to the next level.For more information, visit https://www.crisp.co/podcast/
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Mar 5, 2024 • 23min
243. AMMA — Success Without Safety Nets: The Entrepreneurial Journey
In a world where success is far from guaranteed, how do you navigate the path of uncertainty toward your goals?In this thought-provoking episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill delve into the raw truths of business ownership and the mindset required to succeed.Join us as we explore:
How to guarantee you’ll never achieve your goals
Why the most valuable lessons are learned through experience and failure
The key difference between ambition and commitment
----Show Notes:06:05 – The brutal truth: Business is the hardest thing you will ever do. I try to discourage people from entrepreneurship because they watch a lot of Shark Tank and they think that they're all going to make millions of dollars. The reality of it is that the majority of them will never do that07:30 – Risk vs. reward: If you look at the statistics, there's a greater chance that you won't succeed than there's the chance that you will succeed — especially if you have aspirational goals. 11:00 – Everyone’s replaceable: There are 8 billion people on this planet. By the way, whoever you believe was a rock star, you may find another one who's even better — and you probably will, because your standards change and evolve. There are graveyards full of ‘irreplaceable’ people.18:01 – Commitment’s silent sacrifices: The results that you see from the people you admire is work that's done in the shadows. That's work that you don't see on social media.19:23 – B*tch or beast: The majority of businesses do not grow to seven figures or eight figures. You want to know why that is? Because the majority of people are not willing to do what it takes. You’ve got to decide which one you are: b*tch or beast? I don't know what else to tell you. Not everyone is built for this.----Links & Resources
Joe Rogan Podcast
Huberman Lab Podcast
Shark Tank
TikTok
Fugazi
Crisp Coach
Netflix
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#113 Kevin O’Leary – The Entrepreneurial Journey: Inside the Mind of Mr. Wonderful
#158 Alex Hormozi – The Power of Humility in Achieving Entrepreneurial Success
#230 AMMA – How to Achieve Bigger Goals

Feb 29, 2024 • 55min
242. Chris Voss — The Secret Ingredient of Successful Negotiations
Chris Voss is one of the world's leading authorities on negotiation. As a former Lead FBI International Hostage Negotiator and CEO of The Black Swan Group, he’s spent years mastering the art of negotiation in high-stakes situations.For law firm owners, negotiation isn't a professional skill. It's a daily necessity. Negotiations touch every part of our lives. They range from reaching settlements with opposing counsel. They also include managing team dynamics and even deciding what's for dinner.In this captivating new episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Chris and Michael Mogill take a deep dive into:
The hidden power of maintaining a positive frame of mind in negotiations
The dangers of falling for the illusion of a “win-win” negotiation
How generosity can be a secret weapon in your negotiation arsenal
----Show Notes:05:07 – Negotiation in real life vs. television09:45 – The power of a positive frame of mind15:10 – The dangers of a “win-win” negotiation18:33 – Be generous22:53 – Cognitive vs. Tactical Empathy32:29 – Negotiation in the digital age36:34 – Put in the reps45:45 – Learn from your losses and your win----Links & Resources
Nick Nanton
DNA Films
Warren Buffett
Delta
Masterclass
Suits (Television Show)
Mark Wahlberg
Daniel Pink
Start With No (Book)
Lyft
TSA
Empathy and Understanding In Business (Book)
Tiger Woods
Kansas City Chiefs
Kirk Cousins
Roger Bannister
Netflix
Russell Wilson
Seattle Seahawks
Baltimore Ravens
Joe Flacco
Patrick Mahomes
University of Alabama
Marcus Mariota
Walter Isaacson
Elon Musk
Tesla
Starlink
SpaceX
Black Swan Group
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#5 Chris Voss – Negotiation Tactics for Business and Life
#231 Steven Kotler – Harnessing Neuroscience for Peak Performance
#196 AMMA – The 9 Sources of Entrepreneurial Advantage

Feb 27, 2024 • 22min
241. AMMA — The Brutally Honest Guide to Public Speaking
Have you ironed out your personal brand but are struggling to take your thought leadership to the next level? Stuck on securing those prime legal conference speaking slots despite your expertise? Get ready to elevate your influence and uncover the blueprint for landing top-tier speaking gigs in the legal industry.In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast Michael and Jessica Mogill discuss:
How to make a strong impression and secure the best speaking opportunities
The do’s and don’ts of delivering a memorable and meaningful keynote presentation
How to maximize your impact when sharing the stage
----Show Notes:05:50 – 3 ways to land a gig09:55 – Practice makes perfect progress15:23 – Value beats self-promotion16:16 – Be helpful. Be humble.----Links & Resources
The 2018 Game Changers Summit
The 2019 Game Changers Summit
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#154 Conrad Saam – Data Over Guesswork: The Strategies Behind Effective Legal Marketing
#148 Randy Kessler – The Power of Strengths-Based Leadership
#196 AMMA – The Nine Sources of Advantage

Feb 22, 2024 • 18min
240. Jessica Mogill — Why Hiring A-Players is Important
Crisp’s Head of Coaching Strategy and operational mastermind Jessica Mogill has trained over 1,000 practices nationwide, providing them with the skills and tools to build world-class organizations by hiring exceptional team members.In this special-edition episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Jessica and Michael Mogill discuss:
Why compromising on talent is a recipe for disaster
The undeniable value of A-players and why they're worth the wait
How to cultivate a firm culture that attracts and retains top-tier talent
----Show Notes:05:18 – Don’t compromise07:05 – A-Players are worth the wait08:02 – Be a leader worth following10:46 – “Hell yes” or “Hell no”----Links & Resources
The 5-Step Process to Successful Law Firm Hiring
Ritz-Carlton
Starbucks
Amazon
Facebook
LinkedIn
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#47 Jessica Mogill – A Transformational Partnership: How Opposites Attract
#188 Liz Wiseman – Impact Players: How to Take the Lead, Play Bigger, and Multiply Your Impact
#219 AMMA – A Deeper Look at Leadership
Feb 20, 2024 • 26min
239. AMMA — Raise Your Standards
Ever wonder why some law firms soar while others struggle to stay afloat? Brace yourself for a no-nonsense discussion on how to transform your team and marketing strategies from average to exceptional.In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill take a deep dive into:
The importance of setting and reinforcing high standards in your organization
How to raise the bar for your team’s contributions
Why world-class results are earned — not given
----Show Notes:04:07 – Set the bar06:28 – You endorse what you tolerate07:10 – Standards in action09:01 – Reinforce excellence12:25 – Release low performers16:56 – Earn the best cases23:05 – Clear branding wins----Links & Resources
The Ritz-Carlton
Rolls-Royce
Apple
Patriots
University of Alabama
University of Georgia
Super Bowl
Nick Saban
Kirby Smart
Michelin Guide
Episode 217 — AMMA: The Key to Clarity in Business
PRINT® Assessment
Episode 5 — Chris Voss: FBI Negotiation Tactics for Business and Life
The Game Changing Attorney (Book)
Facebook
Instagram
Crisp Coach
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#156 Chris Voss – FBI Negotiation Strategies for Business and Life
#36 Ryan Deiss – Truth Over Tactics: Marketing Strategies that Actually Work
#143 AMMA – Teslas, Distractions, and Rebuilding from Zero
Feb 15, 2024 • 46min
238. Dorie Clark — The Long Game: How to Be a Long-Term Thinker in a Short-Term World [Encore Edition]
Looking into a crystal ball won't reveal the future, but best-selling author and the world's #1 communication coach Dorie Clark is here to guide you toward better preparation for what lies ahead.In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Dorie and Crisp Founder & CEO Michael Mogill delve into:
The underlying reasons behind our obsession with busyness
The transformational concept of strategic patience
Why growth is an endless journey
----Show Notes:05:03 – Mastering strategic patience08:50 – Clear your calendar14:30 – Say “no” to mediocre offers23:10 – Consider your future self27:05 – The 4 waves of your career32:25 – Learning is infinite36:00 – Long-term essentials----Links & Resources
The Long Game: How to Be a Long-Term Thinker in a Short-Term World by Dorie Clark
TEDx
Derek Sivers
Ukraine
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#197 Robert Greene – The Laws of Power and Human Nature
#223 Chad Willardson – Achieving Financial Freedom: Strategies for Building Abundant Wealth
#201 AMMA – Take The Stairs: The Real Path to Growth
Feb 13, 2024 • 21min
237. AMMA — Breaking Out of Complacency: Transformation Through Innovation
As the saying goes, “What got you here won’t get you there.” The most successful leaders of the fastest-growing organizations know that they must constantly reinvent themselves to stay on top.In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill discuss:
How to maintain a competitive advantage in a rapidly changing market
Why the most innovative firms accept a high risk of failure
How to combat complacency and embrace new challenges
----Show Notes:04:57 – Check your blindspots06:30 – Two must-have traits: paranoia and pain tolerance 10:00 – Reinvent yourself14:08 – Think ahead and move faster15:54 – Be willing to fail----Links & Resources
Sears
Blockbuster
Blackberry
S&P 500
University of Alabama Football
New England Patriots
Only The Paranoid Survive (Book)
Bill Gates
Floyd Mayweather
Google LSAs
TikTok
Peter Principle
Formula 1
Elf (Movie)
Motel 6
The Four Seasons
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#158 Alex Hormozi – The Power of Humility in Achieving Entrepreneurial Success
#172 Marcus Lemonis – The Three Keys to Business: People, Process, and Product
#210 AMMA – Failure Isn’t Final: Lessons Learned from Setbacks and Struggles

Feb 8, 2024 • 1h 25min
236. Andre Norman — Turning Poverty and Prison into a Purpose-Driven Life [Encore Edition]
Andre Norman's life journey has been nothing short of incredible. From a past marked by incarceration to his subsequent transformation into a Harvard fellow, his story is both inspiring and extraordinary. Today, his mission centers around eradicating mass incarceration in all its various manifestations.In this exceptional episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Andre and Michael Mogill candidly discuss:
The harsh realities of life within the confines of a prison
The mindset crucial for breaking free from incarceration and building a purposeful existence
The voyage toward recovery at both an individual and societal level
----Show Notes:05:29 – Everyone deserves a chance.08:30 – Prisoners run the prisons. Guards just work there.12:32 – Achieving shot-caller status.28:11 – Headlines sell fear.29:58 – Surviving maximum security.35:45 – Making smarter choices.----Links & Resources
Massachusetts
Michael Brown, Jr.
Trayvon Martin
Tamir Rice
Sandra Bland
George Floyd
Harvard
The Penitentiary System
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#216 Richard Montañez – Conquer Fear, Create Opportunity, and Take Charge of Your Destiny
#168 Ryan Holiday – The Obstacle Is The Way
#196 AMMA – The Nine Sources of Advantage
Feb 6, 2024 • 19min
235. AMMA — Lessons From Losses: Transforming Mistakes Into Opportunity
To move forward, it can be beneficial to look backward — but only with the right intention and perspective.In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill discuss:
Why we learn more from our losses than our wins
How to strike a balance between pursuing future goals and feeling pride in past and present accomplishments
Why our goals and desires are subject to evolution
----Show Notes:3:48 – “Mistakes” is another word for “experience”7:58 – Why your future should always be greater than your past10:27 – Stop trying to make everyone happy15:21 – Decisiveness = progress ----Links & Resources
Tom Brady
Super Bowl
Nick Saban
Game Changers Summit 2022 at the Mercedes-Benz Stadium
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#7 Cy Wakeman – Ditching The Drama & Creating A Culture of Excellence In Your Law Firm
#193 Dan Fleyshman – Just Get Started: A Serial Entrepreneur’s Secret To Success
#183 AMMA – How Great Leaders Make Decisions
Feb 1, 2024 • 47min
234. Henry Cloud — Authentic & Transcendental Leadership [Encore Edition]
Dr. Henry Cloud is a boundaries expert, leadership coach, spiritual guide, author, speaker, and mentor — but above all, he’s direct.In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Dr. Cloud draws on his extensive experience in clinical psychology and leadership development to cut through the noise and get at the heart of what it means to be an exceptional leader.He and Crisp Founder & CEO Michael Mogill discuss:
Why success is equal to your ability to confront
The motivation shared by the most effective leaders
Becoming a transformational leader by focusing on unity, not division
----Show Notes:6:40 – Learn to lead.11:02 – The role of a CEO.13:53 – Don’t carry the weight alone.16:08 – Become a leader worth following.31:52 – Confrontation can be good.37:15 – Unity over power.----Links & Resources
Character Structure
Boundaries for Leaders by Dr. Henry Cloud
How to Have That Difficult Conversation by Dr. Henry Cloud
www.drcloud.com
Boundaries.me Program
Leadership University
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#166 John Maxwell – Leadership Is A Verb, Not A Noun
#188 Liz Wiseman – Impact Players: How To Take The Lead, Play Bigger, and Multiply Your Impact
#185 AMMA – How To Recognize, Reward, and Motivate Your Team


