

The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill
Michael Mogill
How can you become a game changer?Michael Mogill, Founder and CEO of Crisp, has used his mastery of marketing for lawyers to grow his company to an 8-figure powerhouse. In just a few years, Crisp has helped thousands of attorneys adapt to the new legal landscape, differentiate themselves from the competition, and earn millions in new revenue.In every episode, you’ll hear from law firm entrepreneurs and market leaders — people who flourish in the face of adversity, challenge the status quo, and define what it means to be a game changer.We investigate success stories and business growth and scalability strategies that can help you attract your ideal clients. Plus, discover hidden insights and actionable advice on how company culture and employee engagement, marketing and advertising, and management and hiring fit into the big picture.What do all our guests have in common? These successful attorneys and business owners prove that the key to innovation is a game-changing mindset. If you want to run your law firm like an entrepreneur, achieve a greater ROI, and build a world-class organization that stands the test of time, then you’re in good company.Subscribe to the Game Changing Attorney Podcast and get ready to take your business to the next level.For more information, visit https://www.crisp.co/podcast/
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Nov 5, 2024 • 31min
313. A-Player Attractors — Winning With Who: Cultivating a Winning Team
Welcome back to The Game Changing Attorney Podcast‘s “Road to the Summit” mini-series! As we continue our journey toward the 2024 Game Changers Summit, each Tuesday we’re diving into impactful conversations with the most powerful moments from previous Summits and speakers you’ll see this year.In this episode, we’re excited to feature four distinguished leaders in the legal industry who have mastered the art of team building and strategic growth: Rex Elliott, Anna Summersett, Josh Nelson, and Alexander Shunnarah. These influential law firm owners share their experiences and insights on attracting and retaining top talent, fostering an outstanding workplace culture, and propelling their firms toward sustainable success.Are you seeking to strengthen your team and accelerate your firm’s growth? This discussion will motivate you to refine your approach to leadership, embrace the potential within your organization, and build a culture that thrives.Here’s what you’ll learn:
How to retain and nurture A-players to foster long-term engagement
How to identify and develop qualities that make an exceptional team member
Why establishing a strong cultural foundation is crucial for lasting success and team cohesion
Join us for an in-depth exploration of how top legal leaders are cultivating teams that drive growth, resilience, and innovation — showing you how to harness the power of your people to build an unshakable foundation for your firm's future. The road to the Summit is here!----Show Notes:00:00 – Introduction03:11 – Establishing a Firm Culture of Growth05:36 – Developing Your People: Empowerment Through Responsibility09:48 – Hiring for Cultural Fit and Long-Term Potential13:26 – Avoiding Panic Hires by Defining Mission and Purpose17:33 – Leveraging Core Values to Attract Top Talent21:20 – Scaling Nationwide: Finding and Retaining the Right People25:36 – Key Lessons in Leadership and Growth30:08 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways----Links & Resources
Cooper Elliott
Varghese Summersett
Nelson Elder Care Law
Alexander Shunnarah Trial Attorneys
Cy Wakeman
Never Lose an Employee Again by Joey Coleman
Starbucks
Microsoft Word
John Morgan
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204 Alexander Shunnarah — The Thin Line Between Success and Failure
265 Jessica Mogill — Streamlined Operations: Relentless Execution
304 AMMA—Creating a Culture of Success

Oct 31, 2024 • 20min
312. AMMA — Maximizing Performance: Leading Like a Corporate Athlete
Feeling like the grind of running your law firm is burning you out?In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, we’re breaking down the myths of burnout and sharing the real strategies for balancing personal well-being while driving your firm forward. If you’ve ever wondered how to keep your energy high and your practice thriving, this is the conversation for you.Prepare to:
Rethink burnout and how a clear mission can combat exhaustion
Take a break without guilt — and see your firm thrive
Prioritize your health to boost leadership effectiveness
Ready to redefine success and find the balance that fuels both your personal and professional growth? This episode has the tools to help you lead with purpose and stay energized for the journey ahead. Don’t miss it!----Show Notes:00:00 – Introduction02:16 – The Importance of Stress-Testing Your Team05:40 – Debunking the Myth of Burnout09:06 – Taking Time Off Without Guilt: Setting Up for Success13:58 – Knowing the Right Time to Take Vacations as a Firm Owner14:42 – The Corporate Athlete Mindset: Balancing Health and Business17:30 – Why Self-Care Improves Decision-Making as a Leader18:35 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways----Links & Resources
Mother Teresa
Gandhi
The Ritz-Carlton
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262 Roland Frasier — The Secret to Scale: How to Grow Your Business
283 Marcus Filly — Fitness Secrets for Professional Success
299 AMMA — How to Build a Resilient, Self-Sufficient Team That Thrives Without You

Oct 31, 2024 • 36min
311. Legal Leaders — The Blueprint for Legal Mastery: Build a Legacy, Dominate Your Niche
Welcome back to The Game Changing Attorney Podcast’s “Road to the Summit” mini-series! As we gear up for the 2024 Game Changers Summit, each Tuesday, we're revisiting powerful conversations from past Summits with the attorneys and industry leaders who are breaking boundaries and redefining success in the legal world.In this special episode, we’re revisiting an unforgettable session from the 2022 Game Changers Summit, where four of the nation’s top attorneys — Jan Dils, Joe Fried, John Uustal, and Laura Wasser — took the stage to share pivotal insights and hard-won lessons from their remarkable careers.Are you ready to elevate your firm and learn from those who’ve paved the way? Tune in to hear the powerful stories, proven strategies, and key takeaways these industry leaders have used to reach the top — and how you can apply them to drive your own success.Here's what you’ll take away:
How to define and dominate your niche
Why authenticity and passion are key to long-term success
The role of resilience in navigating professional challenges
Join us as we dive into these stories of success, drive, and transformative growth. The road to the Summit continues here!----Show Notes:00:00 – Introduction03:11 – Building a Brand in Niche Legal Industries05:47 – Finding a Catalyst Moment to Define Your Brand09:36 – Lessons from A-List Cases vs. Everyday Cases14:32 – The Importance of Consistency and Passion in Success17:41 – Overcoming Challenges and Staying Motivated23:24 – Knowing Which Cases to Turn Down26:55 – Biggest Lessons Learned on the Path to Growth34:34 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways----Links & Resources
Fried Goldberg LLC
Jan Dils, Attorneys at Law
Wasser, Cooperman & Mandles
Kelley | Uustal
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269 Jan Dils – Leading the Largest Female-Founded Law Firm in America
211 Pat Flynn – Superfans: How to Stand Out, Grow Your Tribe, and Build a Successful Business
306 AMMA – From Ramen to Rolex: Celebrating Milestones Wisely

Oct 31, 2024 • 25min
310. AMMA — Decoding Feedback: What Matters and What Doesn't
Ever thought about how AI and feedback can completely reshape the future of your law firm?On this Game Changing Attorney Podcast episode, Michael Mogill is diving deep into how cutting-edge technology and strategic feedback are game changers for growing your practice. We’re talking about the tools you need right now to scale, innovate, and lead your firm with clarity and confidence.Here’s what you’re going to learn:
The secret weapon custom AI (like Mogill GPT) brings to your client and team interactions.
How to tell the difference between feedback that fuels growth vs. feedback that derails it.
Why aligning with your firm's unique vision is the key to long-term success.
Ready to harness AI’s potential, create a culture of powerful feedback, and make decisions that push your firm to the next level? This episode will give you the roadmap to take the lead, not follow. The future of your practice is waiting — join us on this journey!----Show Notes:00:00 – Introduction02:16 – The Role of AI and Technology in Law Firms Today05:31 – Cutting Through the Noise: How to Filter Useful Feedback07:27 – Understanding the Value of Feedback from Your Team09:57 – Differentiating Between High and Low Accountability Feedback12:37 – Processing Critical Feedback: Why It’s Important When It Stings16:21 – Navigating Contradictory Feedback from Respected Peers20:47 – The Impact of Experience-Based Feedback vs. Opinion-Based Advice23:39 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways----Links & Resources
ChatGPT
Gestalt Psychology
TikTok
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278 Adam Alter – From Stuck to Unstoppable: Gaining and Maintaining Momentum
301 Michael Cowen – Investing in Legal Excellence: Training, Tools, and Team Building
268 AMMA – Resilience in the Face of Uncertainty

Oct 22, 2024 • 32min
309. Women Legal Leaders — Leading with Purpose: Women in the Legal Arena
Welcome back to The Game Changing Attorney Podcast's "Road to the Summit" mini-series! As we continue our journey toward the 2024 Game Changers Summit, each Tuesday we’re diving into impactful conversations with the most powerful moments from previous Summits and speakers you’ll see this year.In this episode, we’re excited to bring together four powerful women in the legal industry who are breaking boundaries and leading with confidence: Sara Williams, Samantha Ball, Mariam Kuregyan, and Rachel Flood. These remarkable leaders share their unique journeys and discuss the importance of female leadership, overcoming self-doubt, and redefining what it means to be a successful woman in law today.Are you facing challenges stepping into your full leadership potential? This conversation will inspire you to embrace your strengths, challenge societal norms, and step up without apology.Here’s what you’ll learn:
Why it’s essential to stop apologizing for being great at what you do
How to challenge traditional expectations and create your own path to success
The importance of visibility and mentorship for the next generation of female leaders
Join us for a deep dive into leadership, confidence, and owning your power in the legal world. The road to the Summit is here!----Show Notes:00:00 – Introduction03:11 – Defining Leadership: Insights from the Panel05:47 – Addressing Misconceptions about Female Leaders09:48 – Overcoming Resistance as Female Leaders in Male-Dominated Fields14:26 – Balancing Work and Home: Authenticity and Leadership17:33 – The Benefits of Female Leadership in the Legal Industry21:06 – Setting an Example for the Next Generation of Female Leaders25:08 – Advice for the Next Generation of Women Leaders30:43 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways----Links & Resources
Davana Law Firm
Flood Law Firm
Disability Attorneys of Michigan
Alexander Shunnarah Trial Attorneys
Armenia
Crisp
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249 Codie Sanchez – Maximizing Income: Strategies for Achieving Financial Freedom
269 Jan Dils– Leading the Largest Female-Founded Law Firm in America
302 AMMA – Leading with Integrity: How to Compete Ethically

Oct 17, 2024 • 23min
308. AMMA — Overcoming Doubt: Turning Fear into Fuel
Ever feel like life is moving faster than you can keep up?In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, we’re diving deep into the mindset and strategies that separate high achievers from the rest. I’m breaking down how pace, focus, and mindset can transform your business, your life, and your growth trajectory.You’ll learn:
How accelerating your pace can redefine your standards and put you ahead of the competition.
Overcoming negative thoughts and imposter syndrome to unlock your full potential.
Harnessing motivation — even from sources like fear or doubt — to fuel your growth.
If you're ready to elevate your execution, silence the doubts in your head, and channel your motivation into meaningful impact, this episode is for you. Let’s turn your vision into reality!----Show Notes:00:00 – Introduction01:26 – Imposter Syndrome: Turning Self-Doubt Into Fuel05:02 – The Speed of Business: Executing at a Higher Level06:12 – Overcoming Negative Thoughts as a Business Leader08:49 – Managing Challenges and Stress in Your Firm12:46 – Imposter Syndrome: Being in the Right Room16:49 – The Power of Dark Energy: Using Doubt to Your Advantage19:52 – Shifting From Personal to Team Success22:35 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways----Links & Resources
Zootopia
DMV
Michael Jordan
Kobe Bryant
Franco brothers
Andy Grove
Intel
Harvard
Django
Apple
Turbo
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298 Rich Diviney– The Fundamental Traits Navy SEALs Use to Excel
283 Marcus Filly – Fitness Secrets for Professional Success
292 AMMA – A Leader’s Battle Against Complacency

Oct 15, 2024 • 40min
307. Legal Thought Leaders — The Art of Authentic Brand Building
Welcome back to The Game Changing Attorney Podcast's "Road to the Summit" mini-series! As we continue our journey toward the 2024 Game Changers Summit, each Tuesday we’re diving into impactful conversations with the most powerful moments from previous Summits and speakers you’ll see this year.In this episode, we’re thrilled to feature an expert panel of game changers: Judy Smith, Sara Williams, Harlan Schillinger, and Joe Fried. These industry leaders bring their unique insights on how to build an authentic, standout brand that drives long-term success.Are you struggling to stand out in a sea of competitors? This conversation will uncover how authenticity, clear messaging, and credibility can help you rise above the noise.Here’s what you’ll learn:
Why being true to yourself is your most powerful branding tool
How to position yourself as a subject matter expert in your field
The secret to creating a brand that resonates and builds trust
Tune in for key strategies on brand-building from the legal industry's most respected voices. The road to the Summit is here!----Show Notes:00:00 – Introduction02:00 – Authenticity and Trust in Building a Brand05:37 – Personal Branding: Staying True to Yourself09:34 – Credibility and the Role of Being Real13:47 – Becoming a Subject Matter Expert: Joe Fried’s Journey17:30 – The Power of Vulnerability and Passion in Success19:59 – Cancel Culture and Course Correction25:03 – The Importance of Diversity in Branding and Leadership30:48 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways----Links & Resources
Scandal
Seth Godin
Lowe’s
Home Depot
Alexander Shunnarah
Jeff Bezos
The Ritz-Carlton
Peloton
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280 Rory Vaden – Reputation Precedes Revenue: Mastering the Art of Personal Branding
154 Conrad Saam – Data Over Guesswork: The Strategies Behind Effective Legal Marketing
271 AMMA – Building a Bullet-Proof Brand

Oct 10, 2024 • 24min
306. AMMA — From Ramen to Rolex: Celebrating Milestones Wisely
Is your law firm stuck because you’re mismanaging your finances? It’s time for a serious wake up call.On this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill dives into the hard truths about balancing personal splurges with reinvesting in your firm’s future.You are about to learn:
The investment mindset that separates the elite from the rest.
How to enjoy the fruits of your labor without sabotaging your firm's growth.
Key strategies for keeping your team on board while you celebrate personal wins.
If you’re serious about dominating your market and ensuring every dollar propels your law firm forward, this episode is for you.----Show Notes:00:00 – Introduction01:09 – The Significance of Financial Success in the Legal Industry02:07 – Balancing Indulgence with Business Growth05:31 – How to Confidently Spend on Yourself Without Guilt06:33 – The Journey of Law Firm Owners: Reinvesting vs. Indulging10:33 – Reinvestment as a Path to Becoming a Market Leader14:14 – Celebrating Milestones and Rewarding Yourself18:16 – Managing Team Perception of Your Success22:21 – Why Money Shouldn’t Be Demonized in the Legal Profession----Links & Resources
Bluey
Party City
Disney
Olaf
Peppa Pig
Mario
Luigi
Game Changers Summit
Alexander Shunnarah
Lamborghini Huracan
Lamborghini Diablo
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264 Bill Perkins – Die with Zero: Getting All You Can from Your Money and Your Life
285 Morgan Housel – Mastering the Psychology of Wealth: Beyond Money and Success
304 AMMA – Creating a Culture of Success

Oct 8, 2024 • 39min
305. John Morgan — Luck, Hustle, and the Art of Disruption: Building America's Largest Law Firm [Encore Edition]
Welcome to The Game Changing Attorney Podcast’s exclusive "Road to the Summit" mini-series! As we count down to the 2024 Game Changers Summit — the #1 Law Firm Growth Conference on Earth — we’re bringing you the most impactful conversations from past events and episodes featuring the powerhouse speakers you’ll see this year.In this electrifying conversation, we’re diving into the mindset, strategies, and lessons from none other than John Morgan — a true legal titan and one of the most successful attorneys in the world. From building the largest personal injury firm in America to redefining legal marketing, John shares how he scaled his empire with grit, vision, and relentless ambition.Here’s what you’ll learn:
How John’s “teacup” strategy helped him dominate new markets and scale nationally
Why recognizing the role of luck can shape your success
The key to long-term growth through relationships and integrity
If you’re ready to get fired up and take your firm to the next level, this episode is packed with insights you won’t want to miss. The Road to the Summit starts here!----Show Notes:00:00 – Introduction02:00 – The Role of Luck in John Morgan’s Success05:26 – A Life-Changing Case: Financial Independence from a Paraplegic Case07:28 – How John Morgan Defines Success08:43 – Facing Animosity and Competition in the Legal Market11:22 – The Importance of Giving Without Expectation19:33 – Knowing Yourself: Self-Examination for Success27:30 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways----Links & Resources
You Can’t Teach Hungry: Creating the Multimillion Dollar Law Firm by John Morgan
Titan: The Life of John D. Rockefeller, Sr. by Ron Chernow
Litify
Give and Take by Adam Grant
Only the Paranoid Survive: How to Exploit the Crisis Points That Challenge Every Company by Andrew S. Grove
You Can’t Teach Vision: The Twenty-First Century Law Firm by John Morgan
The Second Half of Life by Angeles Arrien
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289 John Morgan – Grow or Die: The Mindset of a Champion
269 Jan Dils – Leading the Largest Female-Founded Law Firm in America
290 AMMA – The Realities of Starting a Law Firm

Oct 3, 2024 • 26min
304. AMMA — Creating a Culture of Success: Team Dynamics Revealed
What’s your excuse for not building a high-performance team — because Michael Mogill has none?In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill shares powerful insights on building momentum, fostering a winning culture, and leading your team to peak performance. Through personal stories and compelling sports anecdotes, he reveals what it really takes to drive growth and navigate team dynamics.Here’s what you’ll learn:
How to create unstoppable momentum for your firm by leveraging every win
Proven methods for aligning new hires with your firm's culture from day one
Strategies for boosting team engagement and collaboration in a remote world
If you're serious about transforming your firm's performance — this episode is for you.----Show Notes:00:00 – Introduction05:02 – Integrating New Hires with Your Firm’s Culture and Values08:41 – Testing and Challenging New Hires Early10:46 – Boosting Team Engagement and Motivation12:03 – The Importance of Skill Development for Job Satisfaction13:49 – Aligning Incentives for Better Performance16:32 – Fostering a Sense of Community in a Geographically Dispersed Team17:44 – Remote Work vs. In-Person Collaboration: Finding the Balance25:23 – Final Thoughts and Takeaways----Links & Resources
Falcons
Monday Night Football
Eagles
Jalen Hurts
Chiefs
University of Alabama
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240 Jessica Mogill – Why Hiring A-Players is Important
287 Dan Martell – Buy Back Your Time: Mastering the Art of Delegation
214 AMMA – Dream Team: How to Hire and Keep High-Performing Talent


