
Customer Show
This is Customer Show—the podcast that explores what makes people tick, click, and buy.
Every week host Katelyn Bourgoin talks to global experts in topics like buyer psychology, conversion copywriting, and advertising. Each episode will make you smarter and make you laugh. So if you want to figure out how to get (and keep) more happy customers, listen up because we’ve got the answers.
Latest episodes

Dec 24, 2020 • 39min
From Listening To Launch: How We Do Customer Research
It's common advice to listen to your customers. But how do we at Customer Camp actually do that? In this episode, we go behind the scenes to share how we successfully launched our first product. Head of Audience Growth Stewart Hillhouse joins Founder Katelyn Bourgoin to share:
How Katelyn Interviewed Her Ideal Customers Before Launching A Product
The Difference Between Formal and Informal Customer Research
Our Playbook For A Successful Product Launch
And So Much More
Stewart Hillhouse is Head of Audience Growth at Customer Camp.
Twitter: https://twitter.com/stew_hillhouse
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stewarthillhouse/
Katelyn Bourgoin is the Founder and Lead Trainer at Customer Camp.
Twitter: https://twitter.com/KateBour
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kallenro/

Dec 17, 2020 • 38min
How Big Businesses Can Innovate Like Scrappy Startups with Ben Yoskovitz
When you think of innovation, businesses like banks and manufacturers likely won't come to mind. But as you'll learn in this episode, those massive businesses require a special mindset in order to get their customers to care. Innovation expert Ben Yoskovitz joins Katelyn Bourgoin to share:
How To Find Out What Customers Really Care About
Why Big Companies Need To Focus Small To Think Big
What It Takes To Have An Innovation Mindset
And So Much More
Ben Yoskovitz is a founding partner of the innovation firm Highline Beta. He is also the co-author of Lean Analytics.
Twitter: https://twitter.com/byosko
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/byosko/
Highline Beta: https://highlinebeta.com/
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Dec 10, 2020 • 31min
How To Pitch Your Business So Mark Cuban Invests with Dan Martell
Don't wait until you're ready to raise money to fund your company to start building relationships with potential investors. Investor and SaaS Founder Dan Martell joins Katelyn Bourgoin to share:
Why He Thinks Relationships Are More Important Than Your Pitch
How He Raised $1.4M in 21 Days (Including $ From Mark Cuban)
The 3 Questions He Asks Before Investing In A Company
And So Much More
Dan Martell has founded 6 businesses and invested in over 40, including Buffer, Hootsuite, Udemy, and GetAround. He teaches founders how to scale their businesses through his SaaS Academy.
Learn More About Dan: https://www.danmartell.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dmartell/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/danmartell
Fundraise Like A Pro Free Course: https://www.danmartell.com/fundraisinglikeapro
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Dec 3, 2020 • 44min
Sell More Using Customer Success Stories with Joel Klettke
Case studies are a killer way to show off how you've changed the lives of your customers. But many businesses don't write them in a way that's useful to the prospective customer. Conversion Copywriter & Founder of Case Study Buddy Joel Klettke joins Katelyn Bourgoing to explain:
How To Get New Customers To Take Action Through Conversion Copywriting
The Formula For Deal-Closing Case Studies
How To Use Customer Concerns As A Lense To Look At Your Marketing
And So Much More
Joel Klettke is the founder of Case Study Buddy, a done-for-you service for high converting case studies and testimonials.
Twitter: https://twitter.com/JoelKlettke
Case Study Buddy: https://casestudybuddy.com/
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Nov 26, 2020 • 34min
The Secret To Creating Winning Proposals with Kyle Racki
Most people send boring and uninspiring business proposals. In today's episode, we uncover what makes a proposal standout and actually gets you business. CEO and co-founder of Proposify, Kyle Racki joins Katelyn Bourgoin to explain:
How He Turned A Pain-Point Into A Business
Who He Treated His Early Adopters Like Royalty
The Psychology of a Great Proposal
How To Understand the True Needs Of Your Customer
And So Much More
Kyle Racki is the co-founder and CEO of Proposify, a modern proposal writing SaaS platform. He's also the author of "Free Trials and Tribulations: How To Build A Business While Getting Punched In The Mouth"
Twitter: https://twitter.com/kyleracki
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kyleracki/
Proposify: https://www.proposify.com/
Book: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07MV55NTV
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Nov 19, 2020 • 45min
The Real Reason Your Customers Buy with Bob Moesta
With so many moving pieces, it can be hard to truly understand why your customers actually bought from you. But fear not, because a simple framework called Jobs To Be Done will ensure you're giving your customers exactly what they need. The co-architect of the Jobs To Be Done framework Bob Moesta joins Katelyn Bourgoin to explain:
Why Customers Lie To Themselves and To You
The Difference In Language Between Active And Passive Shopping
The Four Forces That Influence All Buying Decisions
What Really Matters To Your Customers
And So Much More
Bob Moesta is the President and CEO of The Re-Wired Group and co-architect of the Jobs To Be Done Framework. His new book Demand-Side Sales 101 is now available.
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Twitter: https://twitter.com/bmoesta
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bobmoesta/
Book: https://www.amazon.ca/Demand-Side-Sales-101-Customers-Progress-ebook/dp/B08FRRF68Q
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Nov 13, 2020 • 45min
How To Write Emails That Customers Love Opening with Val Geisler
Val Geisler, Co-founder and Chief Email Optimizer at Fix My Churn, dives into the art of email marketing to elevate customer retention. She discusses the critical difference between highlighting features versus benefits to capture customer interest. Val emphasizes empathy in communications, urging brands to understand customer pain points for impactful strategies. Learn the importance of personalized messaging and community-building to enhance engagement, ultimately turning emails into powerful tools for connection and conversion.

Oct 30, 2020 • 1min
Introducing: Customer Show
Join Katelyn Bourgoin as she explores what makes people tick, click, and buy.
Each week, she sits down with top entrepreneurs and marketers to hear how they get more sales while strengthening their relationship with their customers.
Customer Show is presented by Customer Camp. Customer Camp is a training and research firm that helps growth-ready product teams to get inside their customer’s heads so they can market smarter.
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