
Profit with Law: Profitable Law Firm Growth
Small Law Firms often start from the practice of law and not as a business venture. This ends up causing the growth of the firm to be much longer and more painful than it needs to be. If you started a Law Firm with the intention of increasing your impact, freeing up your time and having all the money you will ever need then the strategies we discuss will be priceless for you. Profit with Law is a show focused on the business of running a law firm as a profitable venture. Packaging and pricing your services, getting clients consistently, growing your staff in a way that feels good to you and implementing systems and technology to set yourself up for success are all discussions you will find here on the show. Moshe Amsel the host of the Profit with Law podcast is not an attorney. He has spent 20 years as an executive in the IT industry before becoming an accountant and business advisor for small businesses. As the owner of a successful accounting firm DreamBuilder Financial and Law Firm Growth coaching organization Profit with Law, Moshe has proven that there are better and different ways for a law firm to do business and be successful. Our mission is to empower all people with wealth creation so that this and future generations can lead a better life. We’d love nothing more than to do this by helping law firm owners on their journey. A law firm is not for practice it’s for profit!
Latest episodes

Feb 9, 2023 • 1h 18min
Unlocking the Secrets of a Thriving Law Firm: An Insider's Perspective with Jennifer Gore-Cuthbert - 365
Send us a textShownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/365.Ever dreamed of scaling your law firm and reaching the highest levels of success?Many lawyers today have, but only a few understand what it takes to be a high-level law firm owner. It’s not just luck or individual talent—there is an art to thriving in this highly competitive industry! With the right plan, skills, and mindset in place, building a reputable practice is definitely an achievable goal.In this episode, Jennifer Gore-Cuthbert joins Moshe Amsel to talk about running an empowered law firm. She also shares practical tips to become a highly successful law firm owner. Through hard work and dedication, you can uncover the steps needed for success!If you want to become a high-level firm owner, then this episode is for you.Resources mentioned:Join one of our upcoming Profit Brainstorming Sessions where Moshe will share his top strategies for accelerating profit in your law firm!Want to implement what you’ve learnt in this episode? Download the Action Guide, a workbook designed to help you process and implement the knowledge gained from this interview.Connect with Jennifer: LinkedIn | EmailAtlanta Personal Injury Law GroupLiving Forward by Michael HyattGet Staffed UpJoin our Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lawfirmgrowthsummit/To request a show topic, recommend a guest or ask a question for the show, please send an email to info@dreambuilderfinancial.com.Connect with Moshe on:Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/moshe.amselLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mosheamsel/

Feb 2, 2023 • 28min
Building a Sustainable, Successful, and Socially Conscious Law Firm with Ryann Peyton - 364
Send us a textShownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/364. Think back to the time you decided to become a lawyer. What was your motivation? Did you aim to be a lawyer to serve the marginalized and underserved? Being in the legal profession is more than just reputation, money, and esteem. However, the longstanding traditional law practice makes it difficult to break free from this status quo. Fortunately, there is a way to align your practice and values while maintaining a successful and meaningful career.In this episode, Ryann Peyton, Director of Legal Entrepreneurs for Justice, joins Moshe Amsel to discuss what it means to build a socially conscious law practice. Ryann explains how adopting this business model creates a win-win situation for both lawyers and clientele. Ryann also breaks down the process of getting into the LEJ incubator.If you want to know why you should adopt a socially conscious law practice, this episode is for you. Resources mentioned: Join one of our upcoming Profit Brainstorming Sessions where Moshe will share his top strategies for accelerating profit in your law firm!Want to implement what you’ve learnt in this episode? Download the Action Guide, a workbook designed to help you process and implement the knowledge gained from this interview. Connect with Ryann Peyton: LinkedInColorado Attorney Mentoring ProgramLegal Entrepreneurs for JusticeRANGE Consulting Join our Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lawfirmgrowthsummit/ To request a show topic, recommend a guest or ask a question for the show, please send an email to info@dreambuilderfinancial.com. Connect with Moshe on:Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/moshe.amselLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mosheamsel/

Jan 26, 2023 • 46min
How to Achieve Success through Afformations with Dr. Noah St. John - 363
Send us a textShownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/363. We’ve all heard countless life tips and tricks from self-help gurus. You might have even tried one or two of these “hacks.” While some of them are not necessarily wrong, they’re only the tip of the iceberg. Instead, what will transform your life is deep beyond what’s visible on the surface. In this episode, Noah St. John joins Moshe Amsel to discuss the concept of Afformations. He talks about the root and solution to the condition that stops us from achieving a freedom lifestyle. Noah also breaks down the four stages of competency and the five stages of habit. In the end, Noah explains why Afformations, not affirmations, are key to achieving your goals. If you want to know how to transform your life just by asking a question, this episode is for you. Resources mentioned: Book a ONE-ON-ONE FREE COACHING SESSION with our coaches at Profit with Law’s Law Firm Expansion Coaching Session! Want to implement what you’ve learnt in this episode? Download the Action Guide, a workbook designed to help you process and implement the knowledge gained from this interview. Connect with Noah St. John: Website | LinkedIn Millionaire Afformations by Noah St. John Power Habits by Noah St. John Millionaire Afformations Journal by Noah St. John iAfform® Audios Learn how Noah helped clients make more in 12 weeks than they made in the past 12 months by watching this FREE video series! Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill Join our Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lawfirmgrowthsummit/ To request a show topic, recommend a guest or ask a question for the s

Jan 19, 2023 • 1h 3min
How to Manage Your Firm’s Online Presence and Attract Your Ideal Clients with Paul Mackiewicz - 362
Send us a textShownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/362. Every business owner wants to know what makes their clients tick. How do they discover, explore, and eventually end up choosing one option over another? The answer lies in consumer behavior — a complex mix of individual psychology, external influences, and technology. And in the digital era, understanding how individuals interact with your brand is key to business success. Here’s the good news: you can hack consumer behavior through effective digital marketing. In this episode, Paul Mackiewicz joins us to talk about the power of digital marketing in elevating your law firm. He shares practical tips on how to personalize your law firm and leverage modern tools to reach your target audience effectively. Are you ready to unlock the power of digital advertising for your firm? Make sure you don’t miss this episode! Resources mentioned: Do you want to grow your firm? Learn more by signing up for a Profit with Law FREE Coaching Session! Want to implement what you’ve learnt in this episode? Download the Action Guide, a workbook designed to help you process and implement the knowledge gained from this interview. Episode 339 - Learn the Secrets of Multi-Million Dollar Law Firms with Sam Mollaei Connect with Paul: LinkedIn #Smart Marketing ZMOT Expert Drake Law Firm Birdeye VideoAsk Join our Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lawfirmgrowthsummit/ To request a show topic, recommend a guest or ask a question for the show, please send an email to info@dreambuilderfinancial.com. Connect with Moshe on: Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/moshe.amsel

Jan 12, 2023 • 36min
Unleashing Your Team’s Potential through Psychological Safety with Stephan Wiedner - 361
Send us a textShownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/361. It’s often said that teamwork makes the dream work. But what happens if your team members don’t feel safe voicing their ideas and speaking up about their concerns? Achieving success in business isn’t just about assigning tasks and deadlines—it’s also about creating an environment where everyone can feel comfortable expressing themselves. In other words, psychological safety is key. But how do you create a workplace culture where employees are empowered to share opinions without fear of retribution or criticism? In this episode, Stephan Wiedner joins Moshe Amsel to talk about how to build psychological safety. He shares practical tips on how to foster psychological safety within organizations so that your employees can make their best contributions to your company’s success! If you are struggling to get your employees to speak up but are unsure on how to go about building psychological safety, then this episode is for you. Resources mentioned: Do you want to grow your firm? Learn more by signing up for a Profit with Law FREE Coaching Session! Want to implement what you’ve learnt in this episode? Download the Action Guide, a workbook designed to help you process and implement the knowledge gained from this interview. Listen to the Profit with Law podcast episode on team building with Molly McGrath here! Connect with Stephan: LinkedIn l Twitter Take a free Psychological Safety Assessment and figure out how to build psychological safety in your organization and team today! Zarango Noomii Skillsetter Join our Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lawfirmgrowthsummit/ To request a show topic, recommend a guest or ask a question for the show, please send an email to

Jan 5, 2023 • 59min
How a Data-Driven Mindset Can Turn a Law Firm into a Successful Business with Kerri Coby White - 360
Send us a textShownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/360. Your business decisions today, whether big or small, compound over time. How you take advantage of the resources and data available to you now impacts the success of your law firm. As a business owner, you need to get behind new technology and strategies to ensure your firm keeps its trajectory toward your performance goals. One way to achieve this is through managing and tracking your data. What will the legal industry look like ten years from now? For Kerri Coby White, it’s all about data. In this episode, she shares the importance of a data-driven mindset for a law firm owner. She also discusses how implementing data-driven strategies can optimize your systems. Kerri also talks about technology in the legal industry and working with specialists to take your business to another level. Are you a law firm owner who is hungry for growth? Make sure you don’t miss this episode! Resources mentioned: Do you want to grow your firm? Learn more by signing up for a Profit with Law FREE Coaching Session! Want to implement what you’ve learnt in this episode? Download the Action Guide, a workbook designed to help you process and implement the knowledge gained from this interview. Episode 144: From Law School to a 150-Person Firm with Mike Morse Connect with Kerri: LinkedIn KerriJames website Upgrade your intake now with helpful resources from KerriJames. Loop Law Firms in Transition 2019: An Executive Summary from Altman Weil Join our Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lawfirmgrowthsummit/ To request a show topic, recommend a guest or ask a question for the show, please send an email to info@dreambuilderfinancial.com. Connect with Moshe on:

Dec 29, 2022 • 1h
The 6 Stages of a Successful Law Firm Marketing Strategy with Erik Olson - 359
Send us a textShownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/359. There are countless ways to get your message and offers to your target clients, but how will you find the right one? You'll need to experiment. Effective law firm marketing is a bit of trial and error, but with intention. It’s a process of working through failures until you find what works just right for your firm. In this episode, Erik Olson of Digital Array joins Moshe Amsel to discuss how you can find and capitalize on a marketing strategy for your law firm. Erik shares the six stages of a successful marketing strategy and how you can use that to help you along your marketing journey. He builds on his years of digital marketing experience and shares the value of experimentation and how you can find the best law firm marketing strategy for you to grow. If you think you’ve done all the marketing possible and are still not reaching your target, then this episode is for you! Resources mentioned: Interested in widening your business perspective? Grab a FREE Law Firm Expansion Coaching Session with one of our coaches. Slots are limited, so grab yours before they’re gone! Want to implement what you’ve learnt in this episode? Download the Action Guide, a workbook designed to help you process and implement the knowledge gained from this interview. Episode 340 - Investing in the Growth of Your Law Firm with Jim Farrin Learn more about Erik’s work at Array Digital: Website | LinkedIn | Facebook | Twitter | Instagram Struggling with finding an agency? Download Digital Array’s Law Firm Growth Guide. Million Dollar Journey: How to launch a seven-figure business by Erik Olson The Managing Partners Podcast The Pumpkin Plan: A Simple Strategy to Grow a Remarkable Business in Any Field

Dec 22, 2022 • 26min
Grow Your Law Firm Through Data-Driven Decisions with Neal Goffman - 358
Send us a textShownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/358. Sure, you’re a law firm owner, but are you running your business like a CEO? In order to support your firm’s growth, it’s crucial to manage it as a business. And like every business out there, leveraging software and automation is one of the most game-changing moves you can make for your firm. Once you’re able to integrate the proper automation technologies into your firm, you’re set up for long-term success. In this episode, Neal Goffman, CEO of GrowPath, joins Moshe Amsel to discuss the importance of optimizing systems and data for your firm. He lays down some of GrowPath’s most powerful software solutions and how they help boost efficiency for law firms. Neal also delves into the biggest struggles law firm owners face today and shares insightful pieces of advice to overcome them. If you want to learn how to scale your firm through software automation, then this episode is for you. Resources mentioned: Book a ONE-ON-ONE FREE COACHING SESSION with our coaches at Profit with Law’s Law Firm Expansion Coaching Session! Want to implement what you’ve learnt in this episode? Download the Action Guide, a workbook designed to help you process and implement the knowledge gained from this interview. Episode 26 - The Death of The Billable Hour Connect with Neal Goffman: LinkedIn GrowPath: Website | Facebook | LinkedIn | Twitter CCH Tagetik Supply Chain Planning QuickBooks Stripe Salesforce Join our Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lawfirmgrowthsummit/ To request a show topic, recommend a guest or ask a question for the show, please sen

Dec 15, 2022 • 1h 4min
What You Need to Know About Bookkeeping for Your Law Firm with Danielle Hayden - 357
Send us a textShownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/357. Running a law firm is no easy feat. If you aim to grow and scale, it’s not really something you can do alone. Imagine catering to your clients’ inquiries and taking on cases, all while trying to crunch the numbers and make sense of your bookkeeping systems. It sounds tough because it is, but it doesn’t have to be that way. Law firm owners should not shy away from getting the necessary support to achieve their business goals. In this episode, Danielle Hayden joins Moshe Amsel to discuss the significance of accurate bookkeeping in making sound business decisions. Likewise, she shares various systems and services for implementing profitable financial strategies. Finally, she emphasizes the need to seek help to save time and keep your firm running smoothly. If you’re a solo practitioner or law firm owner learning the ropes of bookkeeping and other accounting systems, this episode is for you! Resources mentioned: Do you want to grow your firm? Learn more by signing up for a Profit with Law FREE Coaching Session! Want to implement what you’ve learnt in this episode? Download the Action Guide, a workbook designed to help you process and implement the knowledge gained from this interview. Connect with Danielle: Email | Facebook | Twitter | Pinterest | LinkedIn Kickstart Accounting Entrepreneur Money Stories Quickbooks Profit First Professionals Profit First

Dec 8, 2022 • 52min
Finding the Right Marketing Campaigns for Your Law Firm with April and Tyler Roberts - 356
Send us a textShownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/356. When do you know it’s time to invest in marketing? Your law firm’s long-term success depends on many factors, including marketing. You must know when and how to focus your efforts to connect with the clients you need to help. In marketing, there isn’t a one-size-fits-all approach. You need to understand what campaigns will work for your law firm in its current timeline. In this episode, April and Tyler Roberts, co-founders of NOMOS Marketing, join Moshe Amsel. They discuss the importance of the when and how in marketing. They also share the importance of a holistic approach when marketing your law firm to clients. Do you want to change your law firm’s growth trajectory with marketing? Then this episode is for you. Resources mentioned: Book a FREE Law Firm Expansion Coaching Session with our coaches at Profit with Law. Slots are limited, so grab yours before they’re gone! Want to implement what you’ve learnt in this episode? Download the Action Guide, a workbook designed to help you process and implement the knowledge gained from this interview. Connect with Tyler: LinkedIn Connect with April: LinkedIn Sign up for an in-depth 45-minute marketing consultation with Tyler today! Are you interested in investing in marketing? Check out NOMOS Marketing for a full-service marketing approach for lawyers. Listen to our episode with Craig Goldenfarb here. Get updates on the 7-Figure Attorney Summit through their website. Join our Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lawfirmgrowthsummit/ To request a show topic, recommend a guest or ask a question for the show, please send an email to info@dreambuilderfinancial.com.