Welcome to “The Chopping Block” – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Robert Leshner, Tom Schmidt, and Tarun Chitra chop it up about the latest news. In this episode, they talk about the recent issues surrounding the Aragon Foundation, the likelihood of Montenegro becoming an ETH hub, the BRC-20s mania, and much more!Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform.Show highlights:  why Zuzalu is “Burning Man in the daytime” whether Montenegro could become the “ETH El Salvador doppelganger” why the Aragon Foundation alleged that they were under attack why Aragon has “missed the boat on a lot of everything that’s happened in DAOs” whether the Aragon Foundation is “suckling on the teat of the DAO for a fat salary” whether Arca was right about wanting the Aragon treasury to be part of the on-chain governance how on-chain governance can do even more than many of the investment banking functions that exist currently why some Bitcoin developers want to censor BRC-20 transactions why the way XEN works gives Haseeb a headache whether Binance CEO CZ invented the memecoin PEPE what the impact of Jump and Jane Street decreasing their market making activity is where the next market makers will come from Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly  Robert Leshner, founder of Compound  Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly  DisclosuresLinks Unchained:  Coinbase Apologizes After Calling PEPE a ‘Hate Symbol’ Market Makers Jump and Jane Street Withdraw From U.S. Crypto Trading: Report CoinDesk: Aragon Cancels Planned Community Control of $200M Treasury Amid Battle With Activist Investors The Block: Coinbase cuddles up to UAE policymakers as US outlook sours Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

News emerged this week that the U.S. Internal Revenue Service (IRS) placed $44 billion in claims on the FTX bankruptcy estate. Now creditors of the defunct crypto exchange are worried that the taxman is going to gobble up funds that would otherwise be used to make users partially whole. Wassielawyer, a lawyer specializing in restructuring and insolvency, joins the show to explain what’s going on, how that huge number is even possible, and why the so-called “trust argument” is not going to be the silver bullet that some FTX customers are dreaming of.Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform.Show highlights: whether the numbers of the IRS claim are even correct how these claims may affect all customers and unsecured creditors of FTX whether FTX CEO John Ray will fight the claims  what the trust argument is and how it could potentially save (or not) FTX’s creditors in what currency the investments made by creditors would be returned why the Three Arrows Capital case differs from FTX and Mt. Gox why what FTX allegedly did is similar, but different, from what Celsius or Voyager did Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Railgun DAO  Stader Labs GuestWassielawyer, a lawyer specializing in restructuring and insolvencyPrevious appearances on Unchained:  Did the Bahamian Government Direct SBF and Gary Wang to Hack Why the Messy 3AC, Celsius, and Voyager Bankruptcies Will Drag on for Years  Three Crypto Bankruptcies: 3AC, Celsius and Voyager. What Happens Now? Links CoinDesk: U.S. Internal Revenue Service Files Claims Worth $44 Billion Against FTX Bankruptcy MeatTC’s Twitter thread Wassie’s Twitter thread Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Longtime crypto reporter Brady Dale has beat Michael Lewis to market with the first book on the dramatic collapse of FTX. In stores today, “SBF: How the FTX Bankruptcy Unwound Crypto’s Very Bad Good Guy,” tells the tale of the outsized role that Sam Bankman-Fried played in the FTX-Alameda death spiral. Drawing on years of reporting and interviews with SBF himself, the book charts the rise and fall of the one-time crypto wunderkind. “It became clear to me that Sam got really addicted to fame,” said Dale.Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform.Show highlights: Brady’s background and how he came to cover crypto how covering the space for a crypto outlet is different from a more mainstream publication how Brady was able to finalize his book so fast  what Brady’s favorite parts of the book are who was really responsible for the collapse of the FTX empire whether Sam Bankman-Fried will plead guilty  whether FTX will make a comeback how SBF thinks differently from other people, and how it led to his downfall why Brady thinks the “dot-com bust” for crypto has yet to arrive whether crypto has betrayed its cypherpunk ideals Thank you to our sponsors!Crypto.comGuests: Brady Dale, writer and reporter at Axios, and author of “SBF: How the FTX Bankruptcy Unwound Crypto’s Very Bad Good Guy”Previous coverage of Unchained on Sam Bankman-Fried and FTX: The Chopping Block: Was FTX a Scam From the Very Beginning?  How Much Prison Time Is FTX’s Sam Bankman-Fried Facing?  Why the Legal Process for FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried Could Take Years The Chopping Block: SBF Wants to Win in the Court of Public Opinion. Will He? Jesse Powell and Kevin Zhou on How FTX and Alameda Lost $10 Billion Is the Collapse of Crypto Lending Over, or Is It Just Starting? Did the Bahamian Government Direct SBF and Gary Wang to Hack FTX? The Chopping Block: Why Lenders Didn’t Liquidate Alameda When It Was Underwater  Erik Voorhees and Cobie on Why FTX Loaned Out Customers’ Assets The Chopping Block: FTX: The Biggest Collapse in the History of Crypto? Sam Bankman-Fried on How to Prevent the Next Terra and 3AC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Genesis bankruptcy is about to take a high-stakes turn with a $630 million payment from Digital Currency Group (DCG) due by May 11. Barry Silbert’s DCG, the parent company of Genesis, is on the hook for the massive payment, but doubts are swirling as to whether the crypto conglomerate can cover it. Lumida Wealth CEO Ram Ahluwalia joins the show to unpack what could happen to Genesis creditors, Gemini Earn users, and the markets should DCG fail to cover its debt obligations.Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform.Show highlights: whether DCG will be able to pay its debt to the Genesis bankruptcy estate the ways DCG can “plug the hole” what the likelihood of DCG filing for bankruptcy is how FTX’s intent to claw back $3.9 billion from Genesis would affect DCG whether Gemini Earn customers will be made whole why Ram says that asymmetric information has plagued the bankruptcy process whether the creditors should accept the latest term sheet how the Grayscale lawsuit against the SEC could impact DCG’s cash flow Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Railgun DAO  Stader Labs GuestRam Ahluwalia, CEO & Founder of Lumida Wealth Previous appearances on Unchained:  ​​Genesis May Be Facing Bankruptcy. Could It Take DCG Down With It? Gemini vs. DCG Is Heating Up. Could Gemini Force Genesis Into Bankruptcy? How Will the FTX Collapse Affect Silvergate? A Bear and a Bull Debate How Is the Fed Going to Respond to the Banking Crisis? Links Unchained: FTX Moves to Claw Back $3.9 Billion From Genesis Reuters: Crypto group DCG says bankrupt unit Genesis' creditors renege on deal CoinDesk:  Genesis Files for Mediator Assistance Over Amount of DCG Contribution to Reorganization DCG's CFO Steps Down as Crypto Conglomerate Repays $350M Loan Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, Sreeram Kannan, founder of EigenLayer, and Konstantin Lomashuk, cofounder of Lido Finance, discuss the complex world of staking in Ethereum's post-Shanghai ecosystem. Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform.Show highlights: how the staking ecosystem in Ethereum looks after the full completion of the Merge what EigenLayer is and why it's called that whether EigenLayer's model is more similar to Polkadot or, actually, to Ethereum Layer 2s what the risks of restaking are, for both projects and users how Lido is working to keep Ethereum decentralized and censorship-resistant what superfluid staking is and whether it could be done on Ethereum how EigenLayer incentivizes alignment between the delegator and the stakers whether there's a risk that Lido could become a governance layer for Ethereum what can be done to increase staking services adoption Thank you to our sponsors!Crypto.comGuests: Sreeram Kannan, founder of EigenLayer Konstantin Lomashuk, cofounder of Lido Finance Previous coverage of Unchained on Ethereum staking:  Shapella in the Rearview: After Major Upgrade, What’s Next for Ethereum? How Will ETH React to Ethereum’s Shanghai Upgrade? Post-Merge, If Lido Becomes Dominant, What Does That Mean for Ethereum? In the Recent Crypto Market Meltdown, What Role Did Lido’s stETH Play? Is ETH on Its Way to Becoming Ultra-Sound Money? Yes, Says Justin Drake Learn more: How Liquid Staking Works A Guide to Ethereum’s Shanghai Upgrade How to Stake Ethereum With Liquid Staking Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to “The Chopping Block” – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, and Tarun Chitra chop it up about the latest news in digital assets. In this live episode from Consensus 2023, they are joined by Avery Ching, chief architect of Aptos, to discuss the latest SEC enforcement actions, an embarrasing admission by audit firm Certik, and crypto’s impact on the coming election.Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform.Show highlights:  everyone's impressions of the conference why Korea has become a hub for crypto adoption why there's no benchmarking infrastructure to compare data across blockchains how Sui decided not to airdrop a token and what the implications for future airdrops are whether CertiK bears responsibility in the Merlin DEX rugpull whether the US elections have an effect on how the SEC is playing the case with Coinbase what impact AI will have on the crypto industry Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly  Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly  Guest Avery Ching, cofounder and CTO of AptosDisclosuresLinks Unchained:  Coinbase Seeks to Compel SEC Response to Rulemaking Petition ​​Exploit or Rug Pull? $1.8 Million Drained From zkSync DEX Merlin Despite Audit  SEC Sues Bittrex, Names Dash, Algorand and Other Tokens ‘Crypto Asset Securities’ CoinDesk: Sui Network to Issue Token Following Exchange Sale; Airdrop Hunters Dismayed Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Major crypto exchange Coinbase has decided to take action to get an answer from the Securities and Exchange Commission: this week, they filed a court action seeking to compel Gary Gensler’s agency to give specific rulemaking on crypto assets. J.W. Verret, associate professor of law at George Mason Law School, talks about how both parties are playing this game, how it could change the Howey test, and much more.Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform.Show highlights: whether there's a long-term chess strategy being played by Coinbase whether the case could actually change the Howey test why the 'West Virginia vs. EPA' is important for crypto what the SEC's strategy is and why the Kraken settlement was an “overreach,” according to J.W. whether the SEC could develop a new framework for crypto assets  how the Ripple case will unfold and how long it will take if it is appealed Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Railgun DAO  GuestJ.W. Verret, Associate Professor of Law at George Mason Law School J.W.’s thread My story of telling the SEC ‘I told you so’ on FTX Public Request for Rulemaking: Securities Regulation Genesis Block Proposal Previous coverage of Unchained on the SEC’s actions:  Rep. Emmer on Why He Believes Gary Gensler Is a ‘Bad-Faith Regulator’ Is the Government Trying to Kill Off Crypto in the US? Coinbase’s Top Lawyer Calls SEC Wells Notice a ‘Massive Overreach’ Links Unchained: Coinbase Seeks to Compel SEC Response to Rulemaking Petition - Unchained Crypto Coinbase takes another formal step to seek regulatory clarity from SEC for the crypto industry IN THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE THIRD CIRCUIT COINBASE, INC.’S PETITION FOR WRIT OF MANDAMUS TO THE Coinbase petition for SEC rulemaking Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Two lawyers, Josh Klayman, head of digital assets at Linklaters, and Marc Boiron, chief legal officer at Polygon Labs, offer their takes on the SEC’s recent crypto crackdown. They share what they heard from SEC Chair Gary Gensler’s Congressional testimony, whether this crackdown was inevitable or sparked by FTX, and why a proposed change to the definition of an exchange could be an existential threat for DeFi in the U.S.Show highlights: what Gary Gensler’s approach to crypto was when he took office whether the FTX collapse had any impact at all on the SEC’s recent actions whether the actions against Coinbase are “inappropriate” what the differences between Coinbase and Kraken staking services are why the concept of “exemptive relief” is important for exchanges whether the SEC is looking to go after AMM-based decentralized exchanges why SEC Commissioner Hester Peirce says that complying with a new proposal wouldn’t be possible for much of DeFi why, according to Marc, the industry should be “pushing very hard” against the newly proposed definition of an exchange whether the SEC’s ability to pursue enforcement actions against ETH is diminished by the statements of the previous SEC chair Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Halborn Guests: Josh Klayman, head of blockchain and digital assets at Linklaters,  Marc Boiron, chief legal officer at Polygon Labs. Sufficient Decentralization Previous coverage of Unchained on the SEC’s actions:  ‘Is ETH a Security?’ Why Gary Gensler Couldn’t Give Congress a Straight Answer Rep. Emmer on Why He Believes Gary Gensler Is a ‘Bad-Faith Regulator’ Is the Government Trying to Kill Off Crypto in the US? Coinbase’s Top Lawyer Calls SEC Wells Notice a ‘Massive Overreach’ SEC Chair Gary Gensler Avoids Question: ‘Is Ethereum a Security?’ SEC Sues Bittrex, Names Dash, Algorand and Other Tokens ‘Crypto Asset Securities’ Links CoinDesk: U.S. SEC Moves Toward DeFi Oversight as It Reopens Proposed Regulations Proposed rule: Amendments Regarding the Definition of “Exchange” and Alternative Trading Systems (ATSs) Rendering Innovation Kaput: Statement on Amending the Definition of Exchange POLITICO: McHenry clashes with SEC’s Gensler over crypto crackdown Forbes: Crypto Exchange Beaxy Shuts Down Amid SEC Charges Treasury Releases 2023 DeFi Illicit Finance Risk Assessment Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to “The Chopping Block” – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Robert Leshner, and Tarun Chitra chop it up about the latest news. In this episode, the gang plays “guess the chart” and takes a deep dive into the booming world of Ethereum Layer 2s.Show highlights:  how much Layer 2s are spending to post data to Ethereum whether L2s suck up all the value of ETH the challenge of providing a good user experience across multiple rollups how the underlying technology of security is not improving but attackers are getting more sophisticated whether centralized lending in the industry is dead why crypto users still hold stablecoins that yield much lower than Treasury bills the new approach to bringing real-world assets and tokenized yields to blockchains whether all L2s are running via proof of authority whether alternative Layer 1s are dead or are actually more important than ETH L2s Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly  Robert Leshner, founder of Compound  Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly  DisclosuresLinksHildebert’s charts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It got heated this week on Capitol Hill with SEC Chair Gary Gensler testifying before the House Financial Services Committee on his agency’s efforts to rein in the U.S. crypto industry. Jason Gottlieb, partner at Morrison Cohen, unpacks what was said and whether we’ll continue to see more crackdowns from the U.S. securities regulator.Show highlights: Whether ETH is a security and what would be the impact if it was declared as such by the SEC Whether the SEC is harming investors  What the potential impacts of the SEC lawsuit against Bittrex are Why the case against crypto exchange Beaxy could serve as a precursor to a potential case against Coinbase How the SEC’s lack of clear regulation is pushing crypto out of America, according to Jason Why the SEC is trying to expand the definition of an exchange and its possible effects on DeFi Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Railgun DAO  GuestJason Gottlieb, Partner at Morrison Cohen & Chair of the Digital Assets Department Previous appearances on Unchained: The Department of Justice Goes After Its First NFT Insider Trading Case Previous coverage of Unchained on the SEC’s actions:  Rep. Emmer on Why He Believes Gary Gensler Is a ‘Bad-Faith Regulator’ Is the Government Trying to Kill Off Crypto in the US? Coinbase’s Top Lawyer Calls SEC Wells Notice a ‘Massive Overreach’ Links CoinDesk: U.S. SEC Moves Toward DeFi Oversight as It Reopens Proposed Regulations Unchained:  SEC Chair Gary Gensler Avoids Question: ‘Is Ethereum a Security?’ SEC Sues Bittrex, Names Dash, Algorand and Other Tokens ‘Crypto Asset Securities’ Proposed rule: Amendments Regarding the Definition of “Exchange” and Alternative Trading Systems (ATSs) Rendering Innovation Kaput: Statement on Amending the Definition of Exchange POLITICO: McHenry clashes with SEC’s Gensler over crypto crackdown Forbes: Crypto Exchange Beaxy Shuts Down Amid SEC Charges Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices