
Apple News In Conversation
Apple News In Conversation with Shumita Basu brings you interviews with some of the world’s best journalists and experts about the stories that impact our lives. Join us every week as we go behind the headlines.
Latest episodes

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Aug 17, 2023 • 30min
Think Again: Why people lose themselves in parenthood — and how to reclaim your sense of self
Jessica Grose, author of Screaming on the Inside: The Unsustainability of American Motherhood, discusses the personal transition into parenthood, societal expectations, challenges faced by dads and non-birthing parents, and listener voicemails about becoming a parent.

Aug 10, 2023 • 25min
Think Again: The most confusing years of your life — and strategies to get through them
Psychotherapist Satya Doyle Byock discusses the challenges of early adulthood, balancing purpose and survival. She explores navigating the hurdles, trusting one's inner voice, redefining relationships, and offers advice for young adults on self-discovery.

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Aug 3, 2023 • 29min
Think Again: Your brain is hardwired to resist change. Here’s how to retrain it.
Transitions can feel intimidating and destabilizing. But these moments can also be opportunities for growth, reflection, and self-discovery — especially when you have the right tools. In the first episode of Apple News In Conversation’s monthlong ‘Think Again’ series, host Shumita Basu talks to Hidden Brain's Shankar Vedantam about why pivot points can feel so challenging and how to embrace them as opportunities, rather than obstacles.

Aug 1, 2023 • 3min
Sneak Peek: Life’s big transitions, reimagined
A preview of 'Think Again' series where life's big transitions are reimagined. Delving into major life changes like marriage, parenthood, and career shifts with personal stories and insights on growth and self-reflection amidst challenges.

Jul 27, 2023 • 33min
The dangers of extreme heat — for our health and our planet
July is on track to be the hottest month ever recorded on Earth. Millions of people in the U.S. are living in areas with dangerous levels of heat — and a growing death toll. In a new book, The Heat Will Kill You First, reporter Jeff Goodell warns that heat is pushing us into a new climate era, with dire implications for individuals, society, and our planet. Goodell spoke with Apple News In Conversation host Shumita Basu about the changes we need to make today and the reasons he still has hope for the future.

Jul 20, 2023 • 23min
Rebecca Lowe can’t believe how far women’s soccer has come
The Women’s World Cup is underway. With 32 nations fielding teams, it’s the biggest tournament yet. Rebecca Lowe, host of Apple News’s unofficial World Cup podcast, After the Whistle, and NBC Sports’ Premier League coverage, offers her predictions and reflects on the success and incredible growth of women’s soccer over her lifetime. Plus, she gives her take on Lionel Messi’s move to Major League Soccer.

Jul 13, 2023 • 20min
Tom Hanks on what it takes to make a movie
Tom Hanks has learned a thing or two about moviemaking during his decades-long career. Ultimately, he says, it’s not about one person’s vision or direction; it’s about the countless people behind the camera — and a few in front of it — who make a movie possible. That’s the foundational idea behind his debut novel, The Making of Another Major Motion Picture Masterpiece. Hanks spoke to Apple News In Conversation host Shumita Basu before SAG-AFTRA, the union that represents actors, decided to strike. But his book and their conversation are a reminder of all that goes into creating the entertainment many of us take for granted.

Jul 6, 2023 • 33min
Playing Dwight on ‘The Office’ didn’t make Rainn Wilson happy. Here’s how he’s seeking real joy.
Rainn Wilson understands why so many people are rejecting religion today. But he argues that the core aspects of faith still have something important to offer us. Spirituality has brought him community, purpose, and levity — even as he’s struggled with depression, anxiety, and addiction. The actor explores these themes in his new book, Soul Boom: Why We Need a Spiritual Revolution, and TV show, Rainn Wilson and the Geography of Bliss. Wilson shared what he's learned with Apple News In Conversation host Shumita Basu.

Jun 29, 2023 • 24min
Rebroadcast: The real problem with elite-college admissions
This is an episode from our archives.
This week the Supreme Court put an end to affirmative action in college admissions, meaning universities can no longer consider race as a factor when accepting a new class of students. The ruling is expected to have pretty big repercussions for schools and students. But Evan Mandery, a professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice, says we’re talking about the wrong issue. In his book Poison Ivy: How Elite Colleges Divide Us, Mandery explains how top schools disproportionately favor wealthy white students — and why that’s dangerous.

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Jun 22, 2023 • 19min
Enduring advice for this year’s graduating class (and nongraduates too)
At their worst, graduation speeches are boring, trite, and pedantic. But at their best, they’re touching meditations on what it means to live a purposeful, fulfilling life. On this week’s episode of Apple News In Conversation, host Shumita Basu speaks with commencement-speech connoisseur Cristina Negrut, who has read hundreds of speeches and cataloged many on the website Best Graduation Speeches.