
Apple News In Conversation
Apple News In Conversation with Shumita Basu brings you interviews with some of the world’s best journalists and experts about the stories that impact our lives. Join us every week as we go behind the headlines.
Latest episodes

Oct 26, 2023 • 25min
Marriage, murder, betrayal: the true story behind ‘Killers of the Flower Moon’
David Grann, author of 'Killers of the Flower Moon', and Osage Nation Principal Chief, Geoffrey Standing Bear, discuss the sinister plot that led to the murders of wealthy members of the Osage Nation in the 1920s. They delve into the adaptation of the book into a Martin Scorsese movie, the mysterious deaths and investigation, and the choice to focus on the relationship between Molly and Ernest. They also discuss the authenticity of the film and its impact in educating viewers about the Osage people's haunting history.

Oct 19, 2023 • 29min
The realities of living in the Palestinian territories
The podcast explores the challenges faced by Palestinians living in the West Bank, including a father's struggle to reach his injured son, the impact of the ID system, and the tragic bus accident. It also discusses the recent escalation of violence in the Palestinian territories and highlights the need for justice and equal rights.

Oct 13, 2023 • 19min
A guide to help you understand the Israel-Hamas war
Explore firsthand accounts of the Israel-Hamas war, including a journalist's harrowing experience and on-the-ground reporting from Gaza. Gain historical context and personal perspectives, and delve into the impact of misinformation on social media during the conflict.

Oct 5, 2023 • 37min
America loves the AR-15. Here’s how that happened.
In the United States, AR-15s grace bumper stickers, mugs, and politicians’ Christmas cards. They’re also the weapon used in some of the deadliest mass shootings in modern American history. Wall Street Journal reporters Cameron McWhirter and Zusha Elinson trace the rifle’s rise in their new book, American Gun: The True Story of the AR-15. They spoke with Apple News In Conversation host Shumita Basu about how this weapon became a symbol of both gun rights and horrific tragedies.

Sep 28, 2023 • 25min
The secret to finding joy in running
Martinus Evans did not have an easy start to running. Weighing over 300 pounds, he set out to finish a marathon after a doctor told him to “lose weight or die.” He writes about his running journey in his new book, Slow AF Run Club: The Ultimate Guide for Anyone Who Wants to Run. In this week’s episode of Apple News In Conversation, Evans talks with host Shumita Basu about the lessons he’s learned from being a “back-of-the-packer.”

Sep 21, 2023 • 32min
Elon Musk’s biographer on two years of shadowing the tech billionaire
Walter Isaacson, author of Elon Musk's biography, discusses Musk's reach and power, his childhood shaping and his weekly meetings on colonizing Mars. The podcast explores Musk's faults, intense work approach, fight against hate speech, weaknesses, and three missions.

Sep 14, 2023 • 20min
Why so many American kids are struggling to learn how to read — and how to fix that
Karen D'Souza, a reporter for EdSource, joins the podcast to discuss the struggles of American kids in learning how to read. They explore the evolution of literacy education, the debate between phonics and context clues, California's literacy crisis and the importance of teaching kids to read as a social justice issue. They also touch on teaching standards, science-based reading programs, challenges in education, and advice for parents and teachers.

Sep 7, 2023 • 28min
Her family had always kept her aunt a secret. She set out to uncover the truth.
Growing up, Jennifer Senior thought her mom was an only child. But when she was 12 years old, she learned her mom had a sister, named Adele, who was institutionalized as a baby. Adele had spent almost her entire life separated from her family. Decades later, in 2021, Senior reconnected with her aunt and uncovered the dark history of institutionalizing children with intellectual disabilities. Senior wrote about her aunt’s story in the Atlantic and spoke with Apple News In Conversation host Shumita Basu about her experience.

Aug 31, 2023 • 31min
Think Again: The signs that you’re ready to retire
Renowned personalities Norman Lear and Mel Brooks, along with columnist and author Steve Lopez, discuss the different perspectives on retirement, the importance of continuing to work, exploring work identity, facing loss in later years, and advice on pursuing dreams in retirement.

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Aug 24, 2023 • 34min
Think Again: What losing family taught Anderson Cooper about grief and gratitude
Anderson Cooper, experienced multiple family deaths, talks about grief, gratitude, and the power of recording loved ones' voices. Reflects on vulnerability, going through belongings, finding gratitude in loss, and remembering loved ones through speaking their name and sharing memories.