

Progressively Incorrect
Zach Groshell
Welcome to Progressively Incorrect, a podcast about the teacher-centered and the student-centered, the traditional and the progressive, in education. Hosted by Dr. Zach Groshell on educationrickshaw.com
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Sep 3, 2022 • 43min
S2E3: Tanya Crossman on Third Culture Kids and Raising Children Overseas
In the previous episode of the Progressively Incorrect podcast, I spoke with Jasmine Lane about how teachers should focus on developing their subject knowledge and automaticity with teaching routines in order to move students forward. However, much of our discussion centered around her experience of moving from Minnesota to teach in London, where, she said, … Continue reading S2E3: Tanya Crossman on Third Culture Kids and Raising Children Overseas

Aug 25, 2022 • 60min
S2E2: Jasmine Lane on Subject Expertise and Why She’ll Never Go Back to Teaching in the U.S.
In this episode of the Progressively Incorrect podcast, I had the pleasure of speaking with Jasmine Lane. Jasmine is a secondary English teacher who recently moved from the U.S. to teach in England. I first came across Jasmine through her blog, jasmineteaches.wordpress.com, which was originally about her experiences as a first-year teacher. Back in those … Continue reading S2E2: Jasmine Lane on Subject Expertise and Why She’ll Never Go Back to Teaching in the U.S.

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Aug 14, 2022 • 60min
S2E1: Paul A. Kirschner on Minimally Guided Instruction and Cognitive Load
In this episode of the Progressively Incorrect podcast, I had the pleasure of speaking with Paul A. Kirschner. Paul is Emeritus Professor at the Open University of the Netherlands as well as Guest Professor at the Thomas More University of Applied Sciences in Antwerp, Belgium. He is the author of several books, including How Learning … Continue reading S2E1: Paul A. Kirschner on Minimally Guided Instruction and Cognitive Load

Mar 28, 2022 • 1h 7min
S1E10: Special Edition
In this episode, Zach flies to the Midwest to meet up with Brad to tape a road trip edition of Progressively Incorrect. Along the way, the duo stop at the highest point of Ohio, the first paved road in the USA, and find (some) common ground in their debate over progressive versus traditional ideas in education.

Mar 14, 2022 • 45min
S1E9: On Students’ (Mis)judgments of Learning and Teaching Effectiveness by Carpenter et al.
In this episode of Progressively Incorrect, Zach Groshell and Bradley Arnold discuss "On Students’ (Mis)judgments of Learning and Teaching Effectiveness" by Shana Carpenter and colleagues. While it may be popular to collect student opinion on instructional matters, there is often a conflict between what students think is effective and what is actually effective. We discuss many of the ways that student opinion can have negative or positive effects on the quality of students' education.

Feb 20, 2022 • 50min
S1E8: The Dynamic Tension at the Core of the Grammar of Schooling by David F. Labaree
In this episode of Progressively Incorrect, Zach Groshell and Bradley Arnold discuss "The Dynamic Tension at the Core of the Grammar of Schooling" by David F. Labaree (@DLabaree). The discussion has us both acknowledging that organizational needs - i.e., what is doable - often prevent large-scale changes to the "grammar of schooling", such as age-graded classrooms, teacher-centered instruction, and a decentralized curriculum.

Feb 13, 2022 • 44min
S1E7: Dewey Outlines Utopian Schools (1933) by John Dewey
In this episode of Progressively Incorrect, Zach Groshell and Bradley Arnold discuss a New York Times article by John Dewey with the headline, "Dewey Outlines Utopian Schools." Much of the discussion revolves around whether any of Dewey's utopian ideas could be realistically implemented in the world we live in, and both of us question whether informal interest-based learning without a core curriculum would do more harm than good.

Feb 6, 2022 • 1h 2min
S1E6: The Classroom Management Field Can’t Stop Chasing the Wrong Goal by Alfie Kohn
In this episode of Progressively Incorrect, Zach Groshell and Bradley Arnold discuss "The Classroom Management Field Can't Stop Chasing the Wrong Goal" by Alfie Kohn (@alfiekohn). Brad suggests that in an ideal world progressive ideas of classroom management would be enough, but that we live in the real world. Zach wonders what use it is to live in any other world but the real world, and shares some of the real world strategies he's used for classroom management.

Jan 31, 2022 • 45min
S1E5: Minding the Knowledge Gap by Daisy Christodoulou
Wielding a popular inquiry cycle, Zach attempts to demonstrate that progressive thought encourages teachers to devalue knowledge, while Brad is reminded of (bad) teachers from his education who drilled isolated facts without helping students make connections between the facts.

Jan 23, 2022 • 55min
S1E4: Group Work for the Good by Tom Bennett
Zach Groshell and Bradley Arnold discuss "Group Work for the Good" by Tom Bennett (@tombennett71). Both agree that group work should be highly structured, but disagree on the extent that it should be used.