
Progressively Incorrect
Welcome to Progressively Incorrect, a podcast about the teacher-centered and the student-centered, the traditional and the progressive, in education. Hosted by Dr. Zach Groshell on educationrickshaw.com
Latest episodes

Apr 3, 2024 • 1h 2min
S3E11: Kimberly Berens on Blind Spots and Behavior Science
Kimberly Berens, author of "Blind Spots" and founder of Fit Learning, dives into the fascinating intersection of behavior science and education. She unravels misconceptions about behavioral approaches, emphasizing their benefits for marginalized students. Berens discusses the critical role of environmental factors in developing literacy skills and redefines intrinsic motivation in learning. Additionally, she critiques traditional views of intelligence and stresses personalized instruction over strict developmental milestones, showcasing that effective teaching can unlock potential for all.

Mar 17, 2024 • 1h 5min
S3E10: Linda Carnine, Susie Andrist, and Jerry Silbert on What Was Project Follow Through?
In this engaging conversation, Linda Carnine, an educational researcher known for her work on Project Follow Through, Susie Andrist, a key contributor to the initiative, and Jerry Silbert, an expert in direct instruction, share their insights on transformative education practices. They discuss the groundbreaking Project Follow Through, its successes and challenges. Personal journeys in education highlight the importance of innovative teaching methods. The trio reflects on the ongoing impact of their work and the complexities of implementing effective educational strategies.

Mar 13, 2024 • 55min
S3E9: Science of Math Panel featuring Sarah Powell, Amanda VanDerHeyden, Anna Stokke, and Nathaniel Hansford
Renowned math experts discuss teaching math emphasizing nonlinear presentation. They delve into research approaches and evidence-based practices. Exploring task levels in student engagement and behavior. Balancing conceptual understanding and procedural skills in math instruction. Fostering a growth mindset in math education and supporting teachers for effective practices.

Mar 2, 2024 • 1h 14min
S3E8: Trisha Jha on Australia’s Science of Learning Movement
Trisha Jha, an expert in educational policy and a key figure in Australia's Science of Learning movement, shares her insights on transforming education. She discusses the tension between romantic educational theories and evidence-based practices. Trisha examines the need for bridging research and practice to mitigate educational inequalities. She delves into cognitive science principles critical for effective teaching and critiques the shift toward individualistic curriculum design. Lastly, she advocates for structured learning environments that cater to diverse student needs.

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Feb 5, 2024 • 1h 7min
S3E7: Kurt Engelmann and Bryan Wickman on Direct Instruction (DI)
Dr. Zach Groshell hosts Kurt Engelmann and Bryan Wickman in an episode highlighting Direct Instruction (DI). They discuss its origins, development, benefits, and its effectiveness in math instruction. The flaws of research-based programs and the revolutionary teaching approach of Zig Engelmann are also explored. Strategies for implementing DI in schools, including managing instructional groupings and involving staff members, are shared.

Jan 29, 2024 • 1h 23min
S3E6: Kent Johnson and Andrew Kieta on Behavioral Education
Kent Johnson and Andrew Kieta, who run Morningside Academy, discuss their unique approach to education with an emphasis on students with learning disabilities. They explore instructional strategies, grouping students based on needs, thinking aloud problem-solving, and the impact of their model on frustrated parents and students.

Jan 16, 2024 • 1h 15min
S3E5: Gene Tavernetti on Making Instructional Coaching Work
Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect. My name is Dr. Zach Groshell and, in this episode, we're going to be talking with one of my mentors of instructional coaching, Gene Tavernetti. Gene is the author of two John Catt Educational books, Teach Fast: Focused Adaptable Structured Teaching, and Maximizing the Impact of Coaching Cycles. He is … Continue reading S3E5: Gene Tavernetti on Making Instructional Coaching Work

Dec 21, 2023 • 50min
S3E4: Patrice Bain on “The Room Where it Happened”
In this episode we’re delving into the inspiring tale of a real-life classroom, aka ‘The Room Where It Happened’. This unique researcher-teacher partnership, which was documented in the book Powerful Teaching, helped children not only to learn more effectively and efficiently by leveraging the science of learning, but it armed them with knowledge of how … Continue reading S3E4: Patrice Bain on “The Room Where it Happened”

Dec 13, 2023 • 2h 2min
S3E3: Craig Barton and Ollie Lovell on Tools and Tips for Teachers
Today I have the great pleasure of bringing you a very special episode featuring two of my podcasting rivals, Craig Barton and Ollie Lovell. This episode is brought to you by John Catt Educational, which publishes some of the absolute best books in education. In addition to publishing Craig’s How I Wish I’d Taught Maths, … Continue reading S3E3: Craig Barton and Ollie Lovell on Tools and Tips for Teachers

Nov 27, 2023 • 58min
S3E2: Amanda VanDerHeyden on the Math Wars and MTSS
Welcome back everyone to Progressively Incorrect. My name is Dr. Zach Groshell and, in this episode, we will be exploring the Math Wars and MTSS with Dr. Amanda VanDerHeyden. Subscribe to this podcast on…SpotifyGoogle PodcastsApple PodcastsWordPress This episode is brought to you by John Catt Educational, which publishes some of the best books in education, … Continue reading S3E2: Amanda VanDerHeyden on the Math Wars and MTSS
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