
Product Chats Podcast
Pragmatic Live’s Product Chat is a podcast focused on tackling the biggest challenges facing today‘s product management, product marketing, and other market and data-driven professionals with some of the best minds in the industry.
Latest episodes

Mar 21, 2025 • 38min
AI Agents Can Improve Your Productivity & Customer Engagement with Sam Mallikarjunan
What if AI could do more than just chat—what if it could take action on your behalf?
In this episode of the Pragmatic Product Chat Series, host Rebecca Kalogeris sits down with Sam Mallikarjunan, Growth Lead at Agent AI, to explore the transformative potential of AI agents. Unlike traditional generative AI, these AI-driven agents automate workflows, enhance productivity, and reshape customer interactions—without requiring coding expertise.
Sam shares real-world applications, from AI-powered business development and customer service to automated research and personalized communication. He also unpacks the AI-operator model, a concept shaping the next wave of AI capabilities, and explains how leaders can balance automation with human oversight.
Tune in to learn how AI agents can streamline operations, enhance personalization, and drive innovation—while keeping leadership aware of the ethical and strategic implications of these tools.
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Pragmatic Institute is the global leader in Product, Data, and Design training and certification programs for working professionals. Learn more at www.pragmaticinstitute.com.

Mar 14, 2025 • 34min
Navigating the Future of AI with Ron Green
We’re at day zero of AI—so how can product managers keep up without getting left behind?
In this episode, host Rebecca Kalogeris sits down with Ron Green, AI expert, serial entrepreneur, and Co-founder & CTO of KUNGFU.AI. Ron has nearly 30 years of experience in AI, having overseen deployments across healthcare, government, retail, real estate, and financial services. He’s also the host of Hidden Layers: Exploring the People and Tech Behind AI, where he dives into the latest advancements shaping the industry.
Ron shares his insider perspective on AI’s rapid evolution, from the surprising power of generative AI (genAI) to the game-changing impact of reasoning models. He explains how these advancements are changing both the answers we get and the questions we ask, unlocking new capabilities while also introducing new risks.
For product professionals wondering how to integrate AI without getting overwhelmed, Ron offers practical advice:
Make sure you’re solving a real problem.
If you don’t see at least 10x ROI, don’t bother.
Start small and scale—AI isn’t all or nothing.
Plus, Ron shares his favorite AI tools and what’s next beyond genAI.
For detailed takeaways, show notes, and more, visit: www.pragmaticinstitute.com/resources/podcasts
Pragmatic Institute is the global leader in Product, Data, and Design training and certification programs for working professionals. Learn more at www.pragmaticinstitute.com.

Feb 28, 2025 • 36min
Managing Your Career Like a Product with Kirsten Butzow
What if you approached your career the same way you approach product management—strategically, iteratively, and with a clear roadmap?
In this episode of Product Chats, we’re joined by Kirsten Butzow, product leadership expert, to explore a structured, strategic approach to career management. Kirsten introduces a three-phase career framework—Do, Build, and Catalyst—each lasting approximately 10-12 years, guiding professionals through skill development, leadership growth, and long-term impact.
She explains how early career phases focus on honing skills and defining a niche, mid-career success depends on achieving through others, and later stages are about accelerating people, systems, and processes. Kirsten also shares why planning your exit isn’t a final step, but an integrated part of career growth at every stage.
Tune in for insights on managing your career with the same strategic mindset you apply to your products.
For detailed takeaways, show notes, and more, visit: www.pragmaticinstitute.com/resources/podcasts
Pragmatic Institute is the global leader in Product, Data, and Design training and certification programs for working professionals. Learn more at www.pragmaticinstitute.com.

Feb 21, 2025 • 33min
Mastering Storytelling & Public Speaking for Product Professionals with Blair Bryant Nichols
What if the key to product success isn’t just the product itself, but how well you tell its story?
In this episode of the Product Chats Podcast, host Rebecca Kalogeris welcomes Blair Bryant Nichols, owner of BBN Creative Management and an expert in strategic speaking platforms. Blair helps business leaders refine their public speaking and storytelling skills, guiding them to craft compelling narratives that engage stakeholders and customers alike.
Blair shares practical strategies for product professionals to communicate more effectively, from overcoming the fear of public speaking to structuring stories that resonate. He discusses why your persona—not your product—is the hero of your story and explains how framing narratives around audience needs, rather than features, creates lasting impact.
Tune in to discover actionable tips for crafting compelling narratives, delivering memorable presentations, and building confidence as a speaker—whether on stage, in internal meetings, or with customers.
For detailed takeaways, show notes, and more, visit: www.pragmaticinstitute.com/resources/podcasts
Pragmatic Institute is the global leader in Product, Data, and Design training and certification programs for working professionals. Learn more at www.pragmaticinstitute.com.

Feb 14, 2025 • 40min
Big Bet Leadership: How to Win in the Hyper-Digital Era with John Rossman
What separates the companies that succeed in digital transformation from the 73% that fail to deliver any business value?
In this episode, host Rebecca Kalogeris sits down with John Rossman, former Amazon executive, best-selling author, and renowned business advisor, to discuss his latest book, Big Bet Leadership: Your Transformation Playbook for Winning in the Hyper-Digital Era.
John shares his expertise on Big Bets—high-stakes initiatives designed to tackle wicked problems and drive disruptive innovation. He explains why most Big Bets fail (hint: it’s a lack of clearly defined vectors) and outlines a structured approach for leaders looking to manage risk, navigate uncertainty, and drive transformation successfully.
From his time launching Amazon Marketplace in 2002 to advising the Gates Foundation and T-Mobile, John has seen firsthand what it takes to execute ambitious, high-risk initiatives. He introduces the Big Bet Leadership Framework, which focuses on three pillars: Thinking, Environment, and Management—all of which are essential for making bold moves with confidence.
Tune in for actionable insights on "thinking in memos," testing assumptions with a "Think Big, Bet Small" approach, and mastering the art of being a Chief Repeating Officer to drive alignment across teams.
For free templates and resources, visit www.bigbetleadership.com
For detailed takeaways, show notes, and more, visit: www.pragmaticinstitute.com/resources/podcasts
Pragmatic Institute is the global leader in Product, Data, and Design training and certification programs for working professionals. Learn more at www.pragmaticinstitute.com.

Jan 24, 2025 • 41min
Shaping Winning Marketing Strategies Using Customer Insights with Zach Golden & Steve Stano
How can organizations move beyond one-off feedback projects and build continuous customer listening programs that drive real change?
In this episode of the Product Chats, host Rebecca Kalogeris is joined by Zach Golden, Director at Anova Consulting Group, and special guest Steve Stano, Executive Director of Marketing at one of Wall Street's leading investment banks. Together, they explore the power of treating win-loss analysis as an ongoing program rather than a one-time project.
Steve and Zach discuss how continuous feedback loops provide deeper insights, improve business decision-making, and enhance customer retention. They provide actionable strategies to improve collaboration across departments and transform customer insights into business decisions that directly boost revenue.
Learn practical ways to keep leadership engaged, overcome challenges, and turn customer data into effective business strategies.
For detailed takeaways, show notes, and more, visit: www.pragmaticinstitute.com/resources/podcasts
Pragmatic Institute is the global leader in Product, Data, and Design training and certification programs for working professionals. Learn more at www.pragmaticinstitute.com.

Jan 17, 2025 • 38min
Navigating Your First 90 Days in a New Product Role with Amy Graham
How can product managers set themselves up for success in the first 90 days of a new role?
This week we talk with Amy Graham, Pragmatic Institute instructor and product management expert, about best practices for navigating the critical first three months in a new job. Amy shares actionable strategies to build relationships, understand team dynamics, and map out an effective 90-day plan that balances learning with producing results.
From conducting a market knowledge audit to identifying internal influencers, Amy explains how product managers can quickly acclimate to a new organization while avoiding common pitfalls like making assumptions or bringing baggage from past roles. She emphasizes the importance of listening, adaptability, and establishing trust as foundational steps for long-term success.
Tune in to hear Amy’s expert advice on how to hit the ground running in your new role and drive meaningful impact from day one.
For detailed takeaways, show notes, and more, visit: www.pragmaticinstitute.com/resources/podcasts
Pragmatic Institute is the global leader in Product, Data, and Design training and certification programs for working professionals. Learn more at www.pragmaticinstitute.com.

Jan 10, 2025 • 41min
Mastering Stakeholder Engagement for Product Success with Bruce McCarthy
How do you build trust and alignment with stakeholders to ensure product success?
In this episode of the Pragmatic Product Chat Series, we’re joined by Bruce McCarthy, renowned product management expert and author, to explore the often-overlooked art of stakeholder management. Drawing insights from his latest book Aligned: Stakeholder Management for Product Leaders, Bruce emphasizes that product management isn’t just about creating roadmaps and specs—it’s about fostering collaboration, building trust, and managing expectations across teams.
Bruce introduces key concepts like "sharp skills"—the soft skills critical for stakeholder engagement—and the "stakeholder canvas," a practical tool for mapping stakeholders and understanding their motivations. From co-creating strategies to navigating difficult stakeholder relationships, Bruce offers actionable advice to help product managers elevate their collaboration and communication skills.
Tune in to learn how to manage stakeholders effectively and align teams around shared goals for better product outcomes.
For detailed takeaways, show notes, and more, visit: www.pragmaticinstitute.com/resources/podcasts
Pragmatic Institute is the global leader in Product, Data, and Design training and certification programs for working professionals. Learn more at www.pragmaticinstitute.com.

Dec 20, 2024 • 42min
Exploring the Transformative Power of AI with Kevin Dean
How can AI revolutionize the way businesses operate and innovate?
Kevin Dean, founder and CEO of ManoByte, helps you uncover the transformative potential of artificial intelligence (AI). With over 15 years of experience in AI-driven business transformation, Kevin shares how AI can turn overwhelming data into actionable insights, streamline operations, and improve customer experiences.
Kevin highlights real-world examples, including how Travelocity and HubSpot leveraged AI to drastically reduce customer service tickets and improve satisfaction. He also explains how AI tools can accelerate innovation, as shown by a client who refactored core application code in four months instead of three years.
From selecting the right tools to piloting AI initiatives effectively, Kevin offers practical guidance for integrating AI into your business strategy. Tune in to learn how to navigate the crowded AI landscape and use AI to shape the future of your organization.
For detailed takeaways, show notes, and more, visit: www.pragmaticinstitute.com/resources/podcasts
Pragmatic Institute is the global leader in Product, Data, and Design training and certification programs for working professionals. Learn more at www.pragmaticinstitute.com.

Dec 13, 2024 • 36min
How Great Leaders Make Product Decisions with Phil Hornby
How do great product leaders consistently make impactful decisions?
In this episode of the Pragmatic Product Chat Series, host Rebecca Kalogeris sits down with Phil Hornby, seasoned product leader, coach, and technologist, to explore the frameworks behind effective decision-making in product management.
Learn how to prioritize the decisions with the highest leverage, balance intuition, data, and feedback, and empower teams to take meaningful action. Phil emphasizes the importance of bringing stakeholders along in the decision-making process, codifying key decisions into repeatable product principles, and implementing decisions with clarity and context to ensure alignment across teams.
Tune in to learn how to make smarter, faster, and more collaborative product decisions.
For detailed takeaways, show notes, and more, visit: www.pragmaticinstitute.com/resources/podcasts
Pragmatic Institute is the global leader in Product, Data, and Design training and certification programs for working professionals. Learn more at www.pragmaticinstitute.com.