

Digital Health Podcast- Royal Society of Medicine
RSM Digital Health Council
Discover how digital technologies are transforming healthcare through interviews with leading digital health experts. Presented by Dr Annabelle Painter
All views expressed in this podcast are of the speakers themselves and not of the RSM.
Find out more about the RSM digital council:
rsm.ac/dhsectionpodcast
Hosted by Annabelle Painter:
www.linkedin.com/in/dr-annabelle-painter/
All views expressed in this podcast are of the speakers themselves and not of the RSM.
Find out more about the RSM digital council:
rsm.ac/dhsectionpodcast
Hosted by Annabelle Painter:
www.linkedin.com/in/dr-annabelle-painter/
Episodes
Mentioned books

May 20, 2024 • 30min
Healthtech market trends and trajectory. With Dr Molly Gilmartin- Health Tech Investor at AlbionVC
Dr. Molly Gilmartin, a Health Tech investor at AlbionVC, shares her expertise on the evolving health tech landscape. She discusses recent investment trends and how the market is shifting towards AI and holistic care solutions. Gilmartin provides insights on approaching market entry for early-stage companies and the importance of understanding unit economics in health tech ventures. She also contrasts the NHS's digital-first strategy for chronic care with the US system, emphasizing patient engagement and technology's role in enhancing care.

May 6, 2024 • 32min
Investment in Healthcare. With Dr John Lee Allen – Managing Partner at RYSE Asset Management
This episode features a conversation about Investment in Healthcare with Dr John Lee Allen who is Managing Partner at RYSE Asset Management.
John has a background as a physician scientist, entrepreneur, and investor and his ability to bridge the gap between academia and industry has made him an influential figure in the fields of science, technology, and investment.
John sits on company boards, is an NHS Board Governor, Grant Assessor at Innovate UK, Expert-In-Residence at Imperial College London, NHS Clinical Entrepreneur Fellow & Mentor, RSM Digital Health Council member and a Fellow at the University of Cambridge.
Conversation topics include:
Different types of healthtech funders
How to find your ‘investor tribe’
Building relationships with the 3 'hums'- humanity, humility and humour
The AIDA framework for building an effective investor pitch
Effective fund raising strategies

Apr 22, 2024 • 41min
The Ethical Implications of Digital Transformation. With Jess Morley- Health Data Academic at Yale Digital Ethics Centre
This episode features a conversation with Jess Morley- Health Data Academic at Yale Digital Ethics Centre, discussing ethical implications of digital health transformation.
Jess shares a framework for thinking about some key areas where technology is likely to impact on healthcare and some difficult questions we are going to need to face as a healthcare system.
Conversation topics include questions about trust, accountability, equity and the changing doctor patient relationship.

Apr 8, 2024 • 33min
Bias in Healthcare AI. With Dr Xiao Liu- Senior Clinician Scientist in AI & Digital Health, University Hospitals Birmingham NHS Foundation Trust
This episode features a conversation about bias in healthcare AI models with Dr Xiao Liu- Senior Clinician Scientist in AI & Digital Health, University Hospitals Birmingham NHS Foundation Trust.
Discussion topics include:
How does AI bias arise?
How can we tell whether AI algorithms are biased?
Who should be held accountable for bias in AI systems?
Is AI the solution for AI bias?
Papers referenced during the discussion:
Ethical Machine Learning in Healthcare: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34396058/
Standing together recommendations: https://www.datadiversity.org/about

Mar 19, 2024 • 35min
Post-market Surveillance of AI medical devices. With Dr Dan Mullarkey- Medical Director at Skin Analytics
Exploring post-market surveillance of AI medical devices with Dr. Dan Mullarkey from Skin Analytics. Topics include setting sensitivity levels for AI devices, accessing outcome data from NHS, challenges of real-world data analysis, deployment of Skin Analytics' technology in NHS, adherence to regulations like ISO 3485, monitoring patient pathways in dermatology, collaboration with experts, and future expansion plans in healthcare industry.

Feb 26, 2024 • 48min
Clinical Copilots. With Dr Dom Pimenta- CEO of Tortus
This episode features a conversation focussed on copilots to assist clinicians with Dr Dom Pimenta who is a cardiologist and CEO of Tortus the creators of OSLER, an AI agent for clinicians
Conversation topics include:
Clinical liability for AI-augmented decision making
How can we protect clinicians from the impact of AI misdirection and automation bias
The practical realities of clinically evaluating LLM tools
The surprising use of clinical communication skills in LLM prompt engineering

Feb 11, 2024 • 37min
What's holding back AI in healthcare? With Dr Chris Kelly- Clinical Research Scientist at Google
In this episode Dr Chris Kelly- Clinical Research Scientist at Google discusses key barriers to the widespread adoption of AI in healthcare.
In 2019 Chris wrote an article titled ‘Key challenges for delivering clinical impact with artificial intelligence’ and the episode covers how Chris might approach this article if he was writing it again 5 years on.
Chris breaks down the barriers into 6 buckets:
- People factors & change management
- Machine learning and technical factors
- Safety and monitoring of AI once deployed
- Governance
- Regulation
- Business challenges
Mammography AI paper discussed during the episode

Jan 29, 2024 • 44min
Intellectual property for Healthtech & AI. With Stephen Carter- Patent Attorney and IP consultant
In this episode, patent attorney and IP consultant Stephen Carter discusses intellectual property for Healthtech and AI. He covers topics such as deciding whether to apply for a patent, caution with copyright and open-source code, debunking the myth that AI products cannot be patented, and common IP pitfalls. The podcast also explores the different types of intellectual property rights, the negative right of patents, copyright and open-source code relationships, default ownership and protection positions of IP, and patenting health technology and AI algorithms.

Jan 16, 2024 • 35min
Building an AI-ready NHS. With Haris Shuaib- Head of Clinical Scientific Computing at Guy's and St Thomas' NHS Foundation Trust
In this episode Haris Shuaib- Head of Clinical Scientific Computing at Guy's and St Thomas' NHS Foundation Trust shares his vision of what is needed to build an AI-ready NHS.
Haris shares the story of how he created the first-ever NHS specialist medical AI team and discusses the unique value that individuals with a dual skillset of clinical and technical expertise bring to the NHS, allowing it to become:
- an intelligent AI customer
- a learning healthcare system
- a developer of in-house algorithms to solve problems that wouldn't be tackled by commercial AI companies.
Haris also shares the importance of 3 key factors in the success of AI at scale: People, Policy and Platforms

Dec 18, 2023 • 25min
Pitching healthtech to the NHS. With Sara Nelson- DigitalHealth.London Programme Director
This episode features a conversation with Sara Nelson- Programme Director at DigitalHealth.London focussing on how to pitch healthtech to the NHS.
Sara shares pitching tips based on her experience working within a NHS healthtech accelerator and as deputy CNIO at NHSX
Topics include:
- Navigating the NHS procurement landscape
- Identifying budget holders- why the CEO may not be the best person to pitch to
- Why being too flexible can put buyers off
- The power of effective follow up
- The risk of offering a free pilot


