

Digital Health Podcast- Royal Society of Medicine
RSM Digital Health Council
Discover how digital technologies are transforming healthcare through interviews with leading digital health experts. Presented by Dr Annabelle Painter
All views expressed in this podcast are of the speakers themselves and not of the RSM.
Find out more about the RSM digital council:
rsm.ac/dhsectionpodcast
Hosted by Annabelle Painter:
www.linkedin.com/in/dr-annabelle-painter/
All views expressed in this podcast are of the speakers themselves and not of the RSM.
Find out more about the RSM digital council:
rsm.ac/dhsectionpodcast
Hosted by Annabelle Painter:
www.linkedin.com/in/dr-annabelle-painter/
Episodes
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Nov 11, 2024 • 36min
AI in Ophthalmology. With Prof Pearse Keane- Consultant Ophthalmologist at Moorfields and Professor of Artificial Medical Intelligence at University College London
Pearse Keane, a Consultant Ophthalmologist at Moorfields and a Professor of Artificial Medical Intelligence at University College London, dives into the transformative role of AI in eye care. He shares insights on the successful collaboration between Moorfields and Google DeepMind to detect retinal diseases. Discover the emerging field of 'oculomics,' viewing the eye as a vital health indicator. Keane also discusses the UK’s potential to lead in healthcare AI by merging NHS data with academic expertise and the innovative ReptFound model for enhancing eye disease screenings.

Oct 27, 2024 • 35min
Scaling AI in the NHS: Lessons from the stroke AI rollout. With Darrien Bold- NHS England & Dr George Harston- CMIO, Brainomix
In this LIVE recording of the RSM Digital health podcast from the HETT conference guests Darrien Bold and Dr George Harston discuss the key enablers that supported AI for stroke to be deployed in 100% of NHS stroke units in England
Discussion topics include:
The power of top down focus on specific areas of unmet need
Efficiencies gained from centralising due diligence and governance processes
Resourcing focussed on dedicated central teams, financing local procurement and enabling evaluation
Peer to peer learning and the need for shared learning networks
Guidelines and the importance of demonstrating evidence of value at a system level

Oct 14, 2024 • 39min
MedLM: Google's medical foundation models. With Dr Dillon Obika- Senior Clinical Specialist at Google
This episode features a conversation with Dr Dillon Obika- Senior Clinical Specialist at Google about MedLM: Google's family of medical foundation models.
Conversation topics include:
- Why and how Google have been developing medical foundation models
- How MedLM is currently being used in clinical practice
- The challenge of evaluating model performance for clinical tasks
- How Google are tackling clinical safety risks arising from hallucinations, omissions and bias

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Sep 23, 2024 • 37min
AI Implementation Insights from the Health Foundation. With Malte Gerhold- Director of Innovation and Improvement
This episode features a conversation with Malte Gerhold- Director of Innovation and Improvement at the Health foundation.
It discusses Implementation Insights from the research and policy undertaken by the Health Foundation on Health technology and AI.
Discussion areas include:
- Why we need to focus on funding change rather than the technology
- The public discussions that are needed about trade-offs patients are willing to make when it comes to AI
- Why we need a problem driven approach healthtech adoption
- The importance of avoiding an AI aristocracy in the NHS so that everyone can benefit
Papers discussed:
Priorities for an AI in health care strategy
How would clinicians use time freed up by technology?

Sep 2, 2024 • 33min
AI in Radiology. With Dr Kath Halliday- President of the Royal College of Radiologists
In this episode Dr Kath Halliday- President of the Royal College of Radiologists discusses how AI is impacting radiology.
Discussion points include:
- The AI technologies that are being used in NHS radiology derpatments
- Challenges faced with deploying AI in the NHS
- How AI is likely to change the nature of radiologists' work
- The use of autonomous AI in radiology
Links from the Royal College of Radiologists:
- AI Registry
- AI education course
- AI Code of Conduct

Aug 15, 2024 • 55min
Explaining Explainable AI (Dev & Doc Special). With Dr Josh Au Yeung and Zeljko Kraljevic- Hosts of the Dev & Doc Podcast
This special edition of the RSM digital health podcast is a joint episode with the hosts of the Dev & Doc podcast focussed on Explainable AI in healthcare.
Key discussion topics:
- The confusion around what explainable AI is
- The question of whether it is really necessary in healthcare
- Exploring different explainability techniques
- The future of explainability and what’s needed to get there
If you like this episode then I'd love to hear your comments and and do check out the Dev & Doc podcast where doctors and engineers unpick healthcare AI related topics

Jul 29, 2024 • 36min
Validating Digital Health Technologies. With Professor David Lowe- Clinical Director for Innovation at the Digital Health Validation Lab, University of Glasgow
This episode features a conversation with Professor David Lowe- Clinical Director for Innovation at the Digital Health Validation Lab, University of Glasgow and A&E consultant.
Key conversation topics:
- The story of the Digital Health Validation lab
- What validation of Digital Health Technologies means in practice and how it varies depending on the maturity of the technology
- Evaluation challenges and what could be done to overcome them from a policy and governance perspective
- Hints and tips to early stage companies when it comes to evaluation
Digital Health Validation Lab website

Jul 14, 2024 • 41min
Regulation: Tips from ex-MHRA & FDA regulators. With Johan Ordish ex-MHRA and Brendan O'Leary ex-FDA
This episode explores software as a medical device regulation on both sides of the Atlantic. It features two incredible guests, Johan (ex-MHRA) and Brendan (ex-FDA) who share their unique perspectives from their respective experience at regulatory agencies.
Discussion points include:
The key differences between the EU, UK and US approaches to regulation
- How these differences impact market entry strategy
- Approaches to regulating AI including the EU AI Act and what it means for AI medical device manufacturers
- International regulatory harmonization efforts - Key Dos and Don’ts when interacting with regulators

Jul 1, 2024 • 30min
111 & Digitising the NHS front door. With Dr James Ray- National Clinical Advisor for Urgent and Emergency care at NHS England
On this episode Dr James Ray National clinical advisor for urgent and emergency care at NHS England shares how digital technologies are being introduced to improve care delivery in 111 and the challenges faced and lessons learned along the way He also shared his vision for how a single digital front door could help to simplify and standardise triage and provide a potential solution to the NHS navigation problem.

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Jun 17, 2024 • 25min
AI & the Limits of Clinician Vigilance. With Prof Julia Adler-Milstein- Professor at University of California
This episode focusses on AI & the Limits of Clinician Vigilance and features of conversation with Prof Julia Adler-Mistein, Professor at the University of California.
Conversation topics include
Lessons form the aviation and automobile industry
Should AI be checking clinicians work rather than the other way around?
Potential solutions to improve clinicial vigilance ability
The importance of considering behaviour science and systems design thinking
Is there an ethical risk of demanding superhuman performance from AI tools?
Paper reference: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2816582


