
On Coaching with Magness & Marcus
Coaches Steve Magness and Jon Marcus team up to bring you an insider’s view on coaching. Taking you inside the thoughts and conversations that usually occur behind the scenes. They bring a diverse background having both worked with athletes at the collegiate and professional level. They hope to bring a mixture of science, old-fashioned wisdom, and a touch of philosophy to help understand the process of coaching and maximizing endurance performance. For more information visit www.ScienceOfRunning.com
Latest episodes

Aug 8, 2022 • 1h 4min
Episode 179: The 10 Timeless Guiding Principles of Distance Running Training
We often get lost in the details. Arguing over the final 1%, whether we should run at lactate threshold or critical velocity? Whether 200s or 300s are best for milers? In this episode we outline 10 timeless principles that stand the test of time. If you follow these, you’ll succeed! Nail the basics! If you…

Aug 1, 2022 • 1h 6min
Episode 178: Running Half Truths: Advice to Be Ignored
Every sport has the items that many of us seem to believe, that are ingrained in the history of the sport, that have no foundation or backing. In this episode, we explore those half-truths. We’re aided by a pamphlet written fifty years ago, with insight that we’ve forgotten. If you haven’t yet, check out Steve’s…

Jul 18, 2022 • 1h
Episode 177: Sympathetic Overdrive- How to Get Out of Stressing Out!
Athletes stress out…a lot! And once you are in stressed mode, it’s hard to get out of it. You can’t sleep hours after competing because your mind is still racing and your body is still buzzing. You can’t let go of the tough loss. It lingers. In this episode, we talk about how to move…

Jul 14, 2022 • 23min
BONUS: Sink or Swim, Survive or Thrive
Welcome to this special bonus issue. Steve does his best revisionist history impression, telling you the story of Paul Bear Bryant’s famous Junction Boys football camp, while discussing the origins of ‘old school toughness.’ This is adapted from his new book Do Hard Things, which you can check out wherever books are sold. It’s currently…

Jul 11, 2022 • 1h 6min
Episode 176: Individualizing Training in Larger Settings
Individualizing training is easy at the professional level. You’ve got a handful of athletes, all very good, and can adjust as needed. In larger settings, it’s much more difficult. The athlete’s abilities are spread out, there’s only one of you, and practice can be more akin to herding cats. In this episode, we explore how…

Jul 4, 2022 • 1h 5min
Episode 175: Fast Losers-Racing vs. Time Trialing
Racing is a skill. How do we get comfortable in a pack? Running from the front, or perhaps stuck in the back? How do you deal with the rising tension of a tactical race? Steve and Jon discuss all of this in more in helping your athletes develop the skills of racing! If you haven’t…

Jun 20, 2022 • 60min
Episode 174: How to Do Hard Things: The Art of Suffering
How do you handle pain, fatigue, and discomfort? Do you look for a hole to step into or do you work your way through? In this episode, we discuss Steve’s new book Do Hard Things: Why We Get Resilience Wrong and The Surprising Science of Real Toughness. The book is out and available now! If…

Jun 13, 2022 • 1h 8min
Episode 173: The Difference Between Extraordinary and Mediocre
The podcast discusses the distinction between ordinary and extraordinary tennis players, the importance of training based on the game being played, running races in challenging weather, and the pitfalls of overthinking in competition. It also emphasizes the importance of problem-solving and taking ownership in one's life.

Jun 6, 2022 • 1h 7min
Episode 172: The Importance of Leaving Room to Grow
One piece of advice I always give coaches is: Always have somewhere to go. The younger your athletes, the more important this is. We should leave room to develop and grow. In this episode, we take on the debate on whether we should maximize everything, or if we should leave something in the tank for…

May 31, 2022 • 1h 5min
Episode 171: The Headcase phenomenon: Stop Blaming Athletes for Poor Performance
“He’s a headcase!” We’ve all heard it as coaches. Maybe we’ve even said it. In this episode, Jon and Steve discuss why this is the wrong approach to take. It’s a self-limiting mindset, that allows the coach to blame the athlete, shirk responsibility, and in doing so defer their responsibility to help figure out what’s…