

The Pie: An Economics Podcast
Becker Friedman Institute at UChicago
Economists are always talking about The Pie – how it grows and shrinks, how it’s sliced, and who gets the biggest shares. Join host Tess Vigeland as she talks with leading economists from the University of Chicago about their cutting-edge research and key events of the day. Hear how the economic pie is at the heart of issues like the aftermath of a global pandemic, jobs, energy policy, and more.
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Jul 23, 2024 • 26min
What Went Wrong With Federal Student Loans?
Constantine Yannelis, an Associate Professor of Finance at the Booth School of Business, sheds light on the U.S. student loan crisis affecting over 45 million borrowers. He discusses how decades of federal regulation and de-regulation have led to a staggering $1.6 trillion in debt. The rise of for-profit educational institutions is explored, alongside the challenging impacts of recent policies like the Biden administration's loan forgiveness efforts. Yannelis emphasizes the necessity of accountability and targeted solutions to navigate this multifaceted crisis.

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Jul 15, 2024 • 45min
The Uncertainties of Climate Change
Professors David Keith, Franklin Allen, and José Scheinkman discuss incentivizing climate change solutions. Topics include restructuring market incentives, Amazon reforestation, financial innovations, fusion technology, and challenges in governmental solutions. The podcast explores the role of finance in driving environmental change and the importance of collaboration for achieving net zero emissions.

Jun 25, 2024 • 21min
Using Cellphone Data to Observe Religious Worship in the United States
Devin Pope, a Professor of Economics and Behavioral Science at the Booth School of Business, dives into the intriguing world of cellphone data and its insights on religious attendance in America. He reveals significant discrepancies between self-reported church attendance and actual participation, suggesting rates as low as 5%. The conversation touches on worship patterns across different faiths, the socioeconomic diversity within congregations, and how regular religious attendance might influence moral choices regarding nightlife activities. Fascinating insights emerge regarding the intersection of faith and community.

Jun 11, 2024 • 31min
India’s Economic Future
India’s government has big goals for economic growth. The former Governor of the country’s Reserve Bank, Raghuram Rajan, argues that India won't be able (and shouldn't try) to follow traditional methods of development. Professor Rajan, now of the the Chicago Booth School of Business, joins The Pie to discuss India’s untraveled path to prosperity.

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May 28, 2024 • 24min
ChatGPT: Who’s Adopting, Who’s Abstaining, and Why?
A year-and-a-half after its launch, half of workers report having used ChatGPT on the job. On this episode of The Pie, Anders Humlum, Assistant Professor at the Chicago Booth School of Business, shares results from a recent, large-scale survey profiling the workers who are leading the generative AI curve.

May 14, 2024 • 26min
Is College Worth It? Measuring the Returns to Higher Education
Economist Jack Mountjoy from the University of Chicago discusses the returns of higher education. He examines the impact of college choices on student trajectories, cost-benefit analysis of enrolling academically marginal students, and the value of college education for these students, highlighting earnings, dropout rates, and societal benefits.

Apr 30, 2024 • 24min
Fighting Traffic in Chicago: Lower Fares, More Trains, Fewer Buses
In this engaging discussion, Milena Almagro, an Assistant Professor of Economics at Chicago Booth, dives into the transportation challenges plaguing urban areas, particularly Chicago. She reveals how policies like congestion pricing and improved public transit can alleviate gridlock and pollution. Drawing on innovative research using cell phone data, she emphasizes the disparities in transit access linked to income levels. Milena also highlights the economic implications of congestion and shares strategies to enhance public transport efficiency.

Apr 16, 2024 • 27min
Which Companies Discriminate Most? Experimental Evidence on Callback Rates by Applicant Race and Gender
A small number of companies are responsible for a substantial amount of the discrimination in today’s labor market. Who are they? In this episode of The Pie, Evan Rose, the Neubauer Family Assistant Professor in Economics discusses results from his recent experiment to measure discrimination among the largest employers in the United States.

Apr 2, 2024 • 27min
Recessions: What Are They Good For? Possibly Your Health
When the Great Recession hit in 2007, it produced the largest decline in US employment since the Great Depression. It also substantially reduced mortality. In this episode of The Pie, Matt Notowidigdo discusses how economic downturns can lead to valuable health gains that may even offset some of the negative consequences of recessions.

Mar 19, 2024 • 36min
Knowing When to Stop: The Unintended Consequences of Monetary Policy
Panel discussion with Raghuram Rajan, Charles Evans, and Randall Kroszner on central bank responsibilities, unintended consequences of monetary policy, implications of altering inflation targets, challenges faced by Chairman Powell, distinguishing actions for financial stability, and unconventional bank stress testing scenarios.