
Switched On
The future of energy, transport, sustainability and more, as told by BNEF analysts. Each week, Dana Perkins and Tom Rowlands-Rees sit down with BloombergNEF (BNEF) analysts to uncover the key findings and stories behind their latest research.
Latest episodes

Jun 11, 2025 • 29min
How Big Oil Is Investing in the Energy Transition
The oil and gas sector invested $33.4 billion in the energy transition last year. Yet while this figure suggests that decarbonization is a serious consideration for some fossil-fuel majors, just seven companies accounted for 85% of the sector’s low-carbon spend in 2024, and only 13 of 41 companies assessed raised low-carbon investment as a share of capex. So what are the different strategies oil and gas companies are pursuing when it comes to the energy transition? And why would a fossil-fuel company invest in clean tech in the first place? On today’s show, Tom Rowlands-Rees is joined by Claudio Lubis, an associate from BNEF’s downstream oil and chemicals team, to discuss findings from his note “Oil and Gas Energy Transition 2024: Clean Capex Jumps.” Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transitions to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: Oil and Gas Energy Transition 2024: Clean Capex Jumps - https://www.bnef.com/insights/36589See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jun 4, 2025 • 37min
Getting Decarbonization Megaprojects Off the Ground
Europe is making quick work of executing large industrial decarbonization infrastructure projects. The continent now boasts large-scale facilities for carbon capture, storage and transit in the UK, Denmark, the Netherlands, Italy and Norway. But how have policymakers managed to incentivize and facilitate the installation of these massive projects, and what’s required to push the sector even further? At the 2025 BloombergNEF Summit Munich, Martin Tengler, BNEF’s head of hydrogen research, moderated a panel titled “Getting Industrial Decarbonization Megaprojects on Their Feet: Evaluating Early Success.” This episode brings listeners that panel, which featured Kristin Myskja, director general and head of climate, industry and technology for the Norwegian Ministry of Energy; Anders Hoffman, deputy permanent secretary for the Danish Ministry for Climate, Energy and Utilities; Dick Benschop, chair of the board at Mission Possible Partnership; and Stefanie Hiesinger, head of unit for low-carbon solutions for Directorate-General for Climate Action (DG CLIMA) at the European Commission. To learn more about BNEF’s Summits taking place around the world and to see recordings of BNEF Talks at previous Summits, head to https://about.bnef.com/summit/.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

May 29, 2025 • 33min
Weathering the Storm: Climate Risk Stress Tests
Extreme weather has always meant extreme risks for businesses and investors. Yet climate change has varied the calculus, and many businesses are facing new, potentially existential risks as the world and the energy transition heat up. As such, central banks and financial supervisors have begun conducting climate risk stress tests, to ensure these institutions are capable of mitigating the potential impacts of a changing climate. But what do these tests entail, which markets have been the most proactive in conducting them, and what exactly is “climate risk” anyway? On today’s show, Tom Rowlands-Rees is joined by Tifenn Brandily, BloombergNEF’s head of transition risk and alignment, and special guest Edo Schets, Bloomberg’s head of climate, nature and regulatory financial solutions, to discuss findings from the note “Climate Risk Stress Test Review”. Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transitions to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: Climate Risk Stress Test Review - https://www.bnef.com/insights/35901 TRACT - https://www.bnef.com/insights/34869 Worksheet Sample Library for Physical Risk - WSL PHYSICALRISK<GO> Worksheet Sample Library for Water - WSL WATER<GO>See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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May 22, 2025 • 31min
CORSIA’s Flight Plan for Credible Carbon Markets
Layla Khanfar, an associate on BNEF’s environmental markets team and a carbon credit expert, delves into the complexities of the Carbon Offsetting and Reduction Scheme for International Aviation (CORSIA). They discuss its role in legitimizing carbon credits amidst controversy. The conversation touches on the implications of US and EU participation, the demand for high-quality offsets, and the geopolitical landscape affecting carbon markets. Khanfar emphasizes CORSIA's potential to drive sustainability in aviation, despite ongoing regulatory and participation challenges.

May 14, 2025 • 29min
Silicon States: US Data Center Expansion in the AI Era
Helen Kou, Head of US Power at BloombergNEF, and Nathalie Limandibhratha, Senior Associate at BloombergNEF, dive into the booming AI data center market. They reveal the staggering forecast that data centers could consume nearly 10% of US electricity by 2035. The duo discusses how major tech firms dominate this landscape and the unique energy dynamics of AI workloads. They explore forecasting methodologies and the significant implications of these rapid developments on energy infrastructure and the transition to a lower-carbon economy.

May 7, 2025 • 37min
Powering Ahead: The Future of US Renewable Investment
Andrew Gongaware, Managing Director at BMO Capital Markets, shares his optimism about clean energy investments despite market challenges. Corinne Still, Partner at Apollo Global Management, discusses finding opportunities during uncertainty and the commitment to energy transition. Matt Ransweiler, Senior Vice President at Invenergy, highlights strategies for project execution and securing financing. The conversation dives into crucial topics like battery storage, regulatory landscapes, and innovative models necessary to sustain momentum in the U.S. renewable energy sector.

Apr 30, 2025 • 35min
Trump’s First 100 Days: Tariffs, Turmoil and Policy
One hundred days of the second Trump presidency have passed, and the impact has already been significant. While running for president, Donald Trump put the Inflation Reduction Act, ESG investing and clean energy policy in his crosshairs, only to have been held up once in office by courts, members of Congress and some states. The “Liberation Day” tariffs created turmoil on global markets, and his administration has again had to pause and row back some levies, while others are being renegotiated. To guide us through these first 100 days of the second Trump term, Tom is joined on today’s episode by Derrick Flakoll, BloombergNEF senior policy associate for North America, to discuss recent BNEF research notes including “Trump’s Investment Rules Hold Back Made-in-US Clean Tech” and “‘Reciprocal’ Tariffs Spell Chaos for Clean Energy Markets: React”. Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: Trump’s Investment Rules Hold Back Made-in-US Clean Tech - https://www.bnef.com/insights/36067 Reciprocal’ Tariffs Spell Chaos for Clean Energy Markets: React - https://www.bnef.com/analyst-reactions/su5u2hdwx2ps00See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 23, 2025 • 27min
Crude Reality: Oil Demand Growth Falls After Tariffs
Wayne Tan, Head of Oil Markets Research at BloombergNEF, dives into the impact of recent tariffs on global oil demand. He discusses how U.S. business sentiment has plunged alongside shifting GDP expectations, affecting overall oil consumption. Tan highlights the rapid decrease in China's gasoline demand due to government policies supporting electric vehicles. With OPEC+ looking to increase production amidst these challenges, he sheds light on the complex dynamics shaping the future of oil markets.

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Apr 17, 2025 • 37min
Rainforest to Revenue: Brazil’s Carbon Market Opening
Thiago Picolo, CEO of re.green, highlights the potential of Brazil's domestic carbon market as a game-changer for global sustainability. Fabiana Alves from Rabobank shares insights on investing in nature restoration projects and the need for carbon integrity. Fabio Galindo of Future Climate discusses the evolution of carbon markets and Brazil's rise as a leader in carbon credits. Together, they explore the challenges and strategies for engaging investors and ensuring effective governance in carbon trading, paving the way for a greener future.

Apr 9, 2025 • 24min
Power Play: EU Courts Chinese Battery Manufacturers
Joining the discussion are Andy Leach, a BloombergNEF energy storage analyst, and Matthew Hales, also from BloombergNEF, specializing in trade and supply chains. They dive deep into the EU's plan to boost local battery manufacturing, addressing challenges from Chinese competitors and trade wars. The introduction of BYD's revolutionary battery technology promises rapid charging and extended range for EVs, while new regulations stress local sourcing. They also explore the balancing act between fast charging and battery longevity.