

Partnerships Unraveled
Partnerships Unraveled
The weekly podcast where we unravel the mysteries of partnerships and channel to help you become more successful.
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Dec 15, 2025 • 18min
Jana O'Connor - ROI, MDF, and the Modern Partner Marketing Mandate
In this episode of Partnerships Unraveled, we sit down with Jana O'Connor, AVP of Global Strategic Partner Marketing at SentinelOne, to dissect the evolving role of partner marketing and what it takes to drive measurable impact in today’s landscape. With nearly three decades of experience at industry giants like Palo Alto Networks and Symantec, Jana brings a wealth of insight into what partnership success looks like in an age of increased accountability, complexity, and ecosystem collaboration.We explore the shift from activity-based enablement to outcome-driven strategy, how MDF is being scrutinized like never before, and the importance of aligning go-to-market efforts across sales, marketing, and channel teams. Jana also shares what makes hyperscaler partnerships like SentinelOne’s with AWS scale effectively, and why operationalizing transparency is the glue that holds high-performing partner strategies together. For those building or transforming partner marketing programs, this conversation offers a playbook of hard-won lessons and strategic frameworks.Tune in to learn what the modern partner marketing mandate looks like and how to deliver real ROI._________________________Learn more about Channext 👇 https://channext.com/ Watch on YouTube ► https://www.youtube.com/@channext #channelmarketing #channelpartners

Dec 8, 2025 • 27min
Carilu Melander - Redefining the Role of Partner Marketers
In this episode of Partnerships Unraveled, we sit down with Carilu Melander, Senior Director of Americas Partner Marketing at Zscaler, whose impressive track record spans AWS, AppDynamics, and now leading a high-performing team focused on strategic, data-driven partner marketing. Carilu shares the mindset and frameworks that have helped her team shift from reactive task executors to trusted advisors driving real revenue outcomes.We explore the evolving expectations for partner marketers from aligning campaigns with sales goals to measuring ROI with precision. Carilu dives into how her team uses data to make smarter decisions, build trust with partner sellers, and drive meaningful impact at scale, especially through creative distributor-led programs. For channel professionals looking to sharpen their strategic edge, this episode delivers actionable insights on scalable enablement, ecosystem collaboration, and the future of partner marketing in an AI-powered, ecosystem-first world.Tune in to uncover how to elevate your partner marketing function, build influence with stakeholders, and stay ahead in a fast-changing indirect sales landscape._________________________Learn more about Channext 👇 https://channext.com/ Watch on YouTube ► https://www.youtube.com/@channext #channelmarketing #channelpartners

Dec 1, 2025 • 31min
Meg Brennan - Mapping Your Career Growth in the Channel
In this episode of Partnerships Unraveled, we’re joined by Meg Brennan, Global Head of Partner Strategy, Programs, and Experience at HP Inc. With over three decades of channel experience from taking partner calls in the '90s to leading global strategy at one of the world’s most recognized tech brands. Meg shares a compelling story of career evolution, leadership, and ecosystem transformation.We unpack how the partner landscape has shifted from linear resale models to complex, multi-partner ecosystems, and how those changes are reshaping channel roles. Meg also offers practical frameworks for mapping career growth in the channel, including a deceptively simple tool she’s used to coach and promote talent within and beyond her own teams. Whether you’re navigating your next career step, rethinking your partner strategy, or mentoring future channel leaders, this episode is packed with actionable insights.Tune in to hear Meg’s vision for the future of channel roles in an AI-powered world, actionable advice on building meaningful networks, and why mentorship may be the most important investment you can make for your team and your legacy.During the episode, Meg shared the one-page career mapping tool she uses to help people identify their strengths, map next-step roles, and build an actionable development plan. She generously provided a version we can share publicly with our listeners.👉 Download Meg Brennan’s Career Growth Tool here:https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1M6jfishQWPn8sTOjjttYNDiQymGLjytw/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=102335143091795425269&rtpof=true&sd=true_________________________Learn more about Channext 👇 https://channext.com/ Watch on YouTube ► https://www.youtube.com/@channext #channelmarketing #channelpartners

Nov 24, 2025 • 23min
Scott Eaton - Redefining Trusted Advisors in the Modern Channel
In this episode of Partnerships Unraveled, we sit down with Scott Eaton, Senior Director of Partner Management at Lumen Technologies, for an insightful conversation about the evolving definition and strategic role of trusted advisors in the modern channel. With decades of experience on both the vendor and partner sides of the business, Scott offers a grounded perspective on how channel professionals can navigate shifting partner models, deliver real customer value, and optimize indirect revenue strategies.Together, we explore why the role of the trusted advisor is more critical than ever, especially in complex B2B environments where customers are overwhelmed by choice and under-resourced in technical expertise. Scott also sheds light on where AI is providing the most meaningful gains today from partner enablement to customer retention and offers a sharp take on the future of partner marketing, performance measurement, and the blurred lines between MSPs, VARs, and resellers.If you’re a channel leader, partner marketer, or enablement pro striving to stay ahead of rapidly changing partner models and customer expectations, this episode delivers clarity, strategy, and actionable insights you can use today._________________________Learn more about Channext 👇 https://channext.com/ Watch on YouTube ► https://www.youtube.com/@channext #channelmarketing #channelpartners

Nov 17, 2025 • 41min
Miguel Carrero - Meeting Partners Where They Are with WatchGuard
In this episode of Partnerships Unraveled, we sit down with Miguel Carrero, VP of Global Partner Ecosystem Growth at WatchGuard, a seasoned leader with a rare blend of experience across startups, private equity-backed firms, and large enterprises. Miguel shares his channel philosophy shaped by decades of working across partner models, market segments, and organizational structures.We unpack what it means to “meet partners where they are” moving beyond legacy segmentation models to frameworks that prioritize partner business models, motivations, and operational needs. Miguel outlines how WatchGuard reimagines partner tiering through training engagement and value alignment, ensuring programs resonate with everyone from boutique MSSPs to high-volume VARs. For channel professionals looking for practical tactics to better segment, enable, and motivate partners across the spectrum, this one’s a must-listen.Tune in to gain proven perspectives on sustainable partner profitability, modern channel marketing, and how true partner-centric DNA, backed by executive sponsorship and organizational design, can drive scalable success._________________________Learn more about Channext 👇 https://channext.com/ Watch on YouTube ► https://www.youtube.com/@channext #channelmarketing #channelpartners

Nov 10, 2025 • 27min
Rasmus Holst - Zensai’s Microsoft-First Channel Strategy
In this episode of Partnerships Unraveled, we sit down with Rasmus Holst, CEO of Zensai an HR tech company that’s going all-in on Microsoft and MSPs to scale its human success platform. Rasmus shares why focus beats breadth when it comes to channel strategy, unpacking how Zensai deliberately narrowed its GTM to win in a crowded space.From building a Copilot adoption hub tailor-made for the Pax8 ecosystem to crafting a product that fits MSP sales motions like “fries with the burger,” Rasmus reveals how Zensai is tapping into existing demand with a clear, easy-to-sell value prop.Rasmus offers a grounded view on AI adoption risk, the importance of employee enablement, and why most Copilot rollouts today are set to fail._________________________Learn more about Channext 👇 https://channext.com/ Watch on YouTube ► https://www.youtube.com/@channext #channelmarketing #channelpartners

Nov 3, 2025 • 23min
Nihil Morjaria - Scaling Human Risk Management at usecure
In this episode of Partnerships Unraveled, we sit down with Nihil Morjaria, Chief Revenue Officer at usecure — a UK-based cybersecurity vendor that has built its go-to-market strategy around managed service providers (MSPs) and distribution partners. Nihil unpacks how usecure pivoted from a direct sales model to becoming a channel-first organization, scaling to over 1,800 billing partners without compromising depth of enablement. From rebuilding their product and licensing model for MSP scalability to embedding automation and self-serve onboarding technology, Nihil shares a playbook that’s turned strategic alignment into measurable growth.Channel professionals will gain a blueprint for what it really means to build a partner-centric organization. Nihil dives into the key elements that make vendors channel-friendly from flexible billing and multi-tenancy to product simplicity and marketing enablement. He also highlights one of today’s most overlooked growth opportunities: compliance-as-a-service. Offering practical advice and real-world frameworks, this episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to evolve faster and scale smarter in the channel.Tune in for a refreshing, hands-on perspective on GTM transformation, MSP enablement at scale, and the growing importance of human risk management in evolving compliance needs._________________________Learn more about Channext 👇 https://channext.com/ Watch on YouTube ► https://www.youtube.com/@channext #channelmarketing #channelpartners

Oct 20, 2025 • 17min
Cindy Willems - Value-Led Selling in SMB
In this episode of Partnerships Unraveled, we’re joined by Cindy Willems, Head of Channel for SMB at Lenovo in the BeLux region. With a unique lens on partner transformation, Cindy is leading complex go-to-market integration across Lenovo’s Infrastructure Solutions Group (ISG) and Intelligent Devices Group (IDG). Her mission? Helping partners deliver unified, value-led solutions to SMB customers.Together, we dive deep into the evolving nature of value-led selling in the SMB space, the skills transformation needed across partner ecosystems, and why agility is defining the future of SMB readiness for AI and digital solutions. Cindy shares real-world examples on enabling partners through cross-training, co-selling, and simplifying AI for real business outcomes._________________________Learn more about Channext 👇 https://channext.com/ Watch on YouTube ► https://www.youtube.com/@channext #channelmarketing #channelpartners

Oct 2, 2025 • 22min
Michelle Hodges - Build the Channel You Want
In this episode of Partnerships Unraveled, we sit down with Michelle Hodges, SVP of Global Channels and Alliances at Barracuda, whose experience spans global channel leadership and transformational partner strategies for some of the world’s most innovative SaaS companies. With a legacy of designing, launching, and refining partner ecosystems across private equity-backed and high-growth tech businesses, Michelle shares how to build the channel you actually want, not just the one you inherit.Channel professionals will gain clear strategic insights into how to align partner programs with board-level growth metrics, make transformations sticky through company-wide buy-in, and operationalize partner success through data, iteration, and feedback loops. Michelle delves into balancing AI-powered scalability with human connection, using emerging technologies to empower the MSP community and enhance channel program effectiveness.If you're navigating a digital transformation, redefining partner metrics, or simply want to future-proof your indirect strategy, this episode offers a fresh perspective from one of the industry's most experienced voices. Tune in for practical frameworks and real-world strategies that help you build smarter, higher-performing partner ecosystems._________________________Learn more about Channext 👇 https://channext.com/ Watch on YouTube ► https://www.youtube.com/@channext #channelmarketing #channelpartners

Sep 29, 2025 • 15min
Theresa Caragol - The Science of Partnering Success
In this episode of Partnerships Unraveled, we sit down with Theresa Caragol, founder and CEO of AchieveUnite, and bestselling author of Partnering Success. With decades of experience leading global channel strategies and integrations at firms like Extreme Networks and Ciena, Theresa brings deep expertise and a structured approach to unlocking the true value of partnerships. Her work, including pioneering metrics like Partner Lifetime Value, has reshaped how leading organizations build, scale, and measure partner ecosystems.We dive into the science behind high-performing partner programs, exploring why long-term partner enablement beats transactional thinking, and how hyperscalers are rewriting the rules of engagement for ISVs and tech vendors alike. Theresa also shares how organizations can quantify their partner maturity, leverage psychometric tools to accelerate partner trust, and thoughtfully adopt AI to amplify partnership success. Whether you're building a new program or optimizing an existing one, this episode is packed with strategies that resonate with today's channel professionals navigating rapid change and increased expectations.Tune in to hear why building trust, designing scalable frameworks, and taking an ecosystem-first approach is no longer optional_________________________Learn more about Channext 👇 https://channext.com/ Watch on YouTube ► https://www.youtube.com/@channext #channelmarketing #channelpartners


