

Perfume Room
Emma Vernon
Hosted by perfumehead & comedian Emma Vernon, Perfume Room is your #1 safe space to obsess over all things scent.
Enjoy intimate, never-before-told stories from the fragrance legends you’re most curious about—master perfumers, industry legends, secret celeb fragheads, indie perfumers you should know, and lots of friends with good taste & hot takes along the way.
CRITICS CALL IT 'hilarious,' 'engaging,' 'educational,' 'just earnest enough,' & 'really bad for my wallet.’
Wherever you are on your perfume journey, you are welcome in the Perfume Room.
FOLLOW ALONG ON IG: @perfumeroompod
Enjoy intimate, never-before-told stories from the fragrance legends you’re most curious about—master perfumers, industry legends, secret celeb fragheads, indie perfumers you should know, and lots of friends with good taste & hot takes along the way.
CRITICS CALL IT 'hilarious,' 'engaging,' 'educational,' 'just earnest enough,' & 'really bad for my wallet.’
Wherever you are on your perfume journey, you are welcome in the Perfume Room.
FOLLOW ALONG ON IG: @perfumeroompod
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Dec 28, 2021 • 1h 1min
30. A Conversation with Fragrantica’s Srebecca (w/ Musician Sasha Spielberg)
It's *THE* big reveal. Musician and fellow fragrance lover Sasha Spielberg (AKA Buzzy Lee) is today’s guest and we vulnerably and generously REVEAL OUR FRAGRANTICA ALIASES (followed of course by dramatic readings of our most noteworthy reviews). Sasha shares the fragrance combo that gets her endless compliments—even from people who are triple-masked, her strict 3-month fragrance rule (and the subsequent one that changed it all), and why attaching memories to scents is not only method, but masochistic. You’re gonna wanna follow along with the ‘frags mentioned’ list for this one. ALSO!! Buzzy Lee is going on tour with Haim in 2022! Link below to check out dates and locations near you!
FRAGS MENTIONED:
1509 Oil Matthias, Essential Faith, Riddle Oil, Rosie by/ Rosie Jane, Ambre Blends, Kuumba Persian Garden, 1509 Sophia, 1509 Elisabeth, Arquiste Vacation Inc, Balmain Ambre Gris, Frederic Malle Lipstick Rose, Kierin 10AM Flirt, Bond No. 9 For Her, MFK Amyris Femme, MFK Baccarat Rouge, Dior Poison, Versace Bright Crystal, Mugler Alien, Stella McCartney Stella, Chloe by Chloe, Le Labo Santal 33, Glossier You, Anine Bing Savage Rose oil, Serge Luten Rahat Loukoum, Xerjoff Casamorati Lira, Jo Malone Elderflower & Gooseberry, CK Euphoria, Byredo 1996, Byredo Blanche, Serge Lutens Tubereuse Criminelle, Tom Ford Black Orchid, Elizabeth & James Nirvana Black, Elizabeth & James Nirvana White, Sayat Nova Bortnikoff, Bohoboco Coffee White Flowers, Rogue Derviche II, ALTAIA Atacama, Monyette, Coqui Coqui, Oilily, Michael Kors, Essential Faith, Commodity Milk, Penhaligon’s Bewitching Yasmine, Gentle Fluidity Gold, Montale Intense Cafe, Gabriella Chieffo Lye, Kierin Nitro Noir, Henry Rose
FOLLOW SASHA: @sashaspielberg @buzzytunes
BUZZY LEE TOUR DATES: https://www.ticketmaster.com/buzzy-lee-tickets/artist/2513636
FOLLOW PERFUME ROOM: @perfumeroompod
LET'S FIND YOUR NEXT SCENT! https://shoplist.us/emmavernon/consults

Dec 21, 2021 • 1h 5min
29. Let’s Talk About It! (w/ Content Creator Charles Gross)
The legendary Charles Gross is today’s guest. With over 831K followers on TikTok alone, Charles has left an indelible mark on the Internet, covering everything from lifestyle, to fashion, to beauty… and he’s just getting started. He is as kind and warm as he is incisive, and first and foremost, he is a tastemaker (of course Charles was wearing Baccarat in like, Y2K, and of course his third word after 'Mama' and 'Dada' was 'Shalimar').
You’ll learn exactly what Charles smells like, what’s in the current rotation, his fave cheap thrill, his unwavering love for Flowerbomb, why Glossier You needs its own *TW,* and of course, the scent that got away. He also gets very candid about his journey as a creator and influencer, and how he’s navigated evolving as a person while being in the public eye. Plus Charles shares advice every content creator *NEEDS* to hear.
FRAGS MENTIONED:
Commodity Orris, The Harmonist Velvet Fire, Strangelove Silence the Sea, Vilhelm Dear Polly, Chanel No. 5, BR 540, Strangelove Dead of Night, 1509 Oil, Essential Faith, Nemat Amber, Guerlain Vol de Nuit, Guerlain Shalimar, Guerlain Jicky, Coco Madamoiselle, Dior Sauvage, Gucci Pour Homme, Maison Margiela By the Fireplace, Atelier Des Ors Lune Feline, Chanel Coco, YSL Opium, Kiehl’s Musk, Aesop Hwyl, Robert Piguet Fracas, Gabar 01 Float, 02 Ground, 03 Swim, Miss Dior Blooming Bouquet, Chanel Chance, Kilian GGGB, Kilian LDBS, Kilian Intoxicated, Glade Clean Linen, Abercrombie & Fitch Ellwood White Bergamot, Commodity Orris, Lancome Magnifique, L’Occitane Fleur Cherie, Perry Ellis 360 Black For Women, Ralph Lauren Woman, Viktor & Rolf Flowerbomb, Viktor & Rolf Flowerbomb Rose Explosion, Paco Rabanne Olympia, Le Labo Santal 33, Glossier You, Jessica McClintock, Chanel No. 19, Chanel No. 5
FOLLOW CHARLES: @charlesbgross
FOLLOW PERFUME ROOM: @perfumeroompod
LET'S FIND YOUR NEXT SCENT! https://shoplist.us/emmavernon/consults

Dec 14, 2021 • 57min
28. Deck the Halls in Elizabeth Taylor Passion (w/ Fat Mascara Hosts Jess Matlin and Jenn Sullivan)
Today’s guests are THE ULTIMATE; I am joined by Jessica Matlin and Jenn Sullivan – the co-hosts of the award-winning beauty podcast, Fat Mascara. Jess and Jenn are true industry insiders; Jess is currently the Beauty Director at Harper’s Bazaar, and Jenn was most recently Beauty Director at Marie Claire. They are – on a personal and professional level – fragrance *obsessed* and in this hour, the three of us come together, freak out, and kindle some genuine BVE. (Don’t know what that is? Listen to find out.) The ep also entails a high-stakes game of Kill F*ck Marry, and the results will *amaze* you. Also, if you have not yet listened to my ep on Fat Mascara (ep 361) you must.
FRAGS MENTIONED:
Commodity Orris, Centauri Antheia, Atelier Silver Iris, Maison Margielia Lipstick On, Kierin Nitro Noir, O Boticário, Lancôme La Vie est Belle Légère, Debbie Gibson Electric Youth, B&BW Gingham, Creed Love in White, Todd Oldham for Women, Elizabeth Taylor Passion, Ellis Brooklyn Après, 06130 Matéo, Centauri Antheia, Vilhelm Dear Polly, Nemat Sandal Wood, Commodity Book Expressive, BDK Gris Charnel, Penhaligon’s Halfeti, Amouage Meander, Aerin Evening Rose, Byredo Rose Noir, Kilian Roses on Ice, Aerin Rose de Grasse, Frederic Malle Portrait of a Lady, The Body Shop White Musk, Nemat Amber, Lisa Hoffman Japanese Agarwood, DSH Special Formula X, Aerin Lilac Path, Jo Malone Wood Sage & Sea Salt, Annick Goutal Heure Exquise, Lolita Lempicka, Robert Piguet Fracas, Le Labo Thé Noir 29, Agent Provocateur, Le Labo Santal 33, Baccarat Rouge 540, Kilian Love Don’t Be Shy, CK Obsession, Inis, Brioni EDT, Guerlain Soliflores
FOLLOW: @fatmascara @jessicamatlin @jenn_edit
LET'S CHAT ON IG: @perfumeroompod
CHECK OUT MY HOLIDAY GIFT GUIDE: www.shorturl.at/hyEH5
LET'S FIND YOUR NEXT SCENT! https://shoplist.us/emmavernon/consults

Dec 7, 2021 • 51min
27. Is Niche Still Quiche? (w/ Perfumer Marissa Zappas)
Perfumer Marissa Zappas is in the Perfume Room today. She brings such a unique perspective as she operates as an independent perfumer, but has classical training from having been an apprentice to Givaudan's Senior Perfumer, Olivier Gillotin. We discuss her path to perfumery, what ‘niche’ means (or doesn’t) today, the scent of our parents' divorces, Marissa gives me a smell test, I smell civet for the first time(!), and we discuss her inspiration, process and collaboration behind two of her most popular scents, Flaming Creature and Annabel’s Birthday Cake (if you're still reading this, go order samples, or honestly FBs now, you won't regret, xo). My SOTD is Annabel's Birthday Cake and my perfume juice is on PdM Oriana.
FRAGS MENTIONED:
Alghabra Bospohorous Pearl, Kierin NY Pier NY, Milano Fragranze Naviglio, Plume Impression Que Tal, Amouage Epic Woman, Parfum de Marly Oriana, By Kilian Love Don’t Be Shy, Marissa Zappas Annabel’s Birthday Cake, Bois 1920 Oro Rosso, Parfum de Marly Meliora, Marissa Zappas Whore of New York, Marissa Zappas The Sun Card, Guerlain Shalimar, YSL Baby Doll, Dior Poison Girl, Dior Poison, Queen Nzinga, Schiaparelli, Lucien Lelong, Robert Piguet, Annick Goutal, Guerlain, Britney Spears Curious
FOLLOW MARISSA: @marissazappas
SHOP: www.marissazappas.com
LET'S CHAT ON IG: @perfumeroompod
CHECK OUT MY HOLIDAY GIFT GUIDE: www.shorturl.at/hyEH5
LET'S FIND YOUR NEXT SCENT! https://shoplist.us/emmavernon/consults

Nov 30, 2021 • 57min
26. The Smell of Anal (w/ UFO Parfums’ Maxwell Williams)
Yes you read that correctly. In today’s ep, I am joined by perfumer, olfactive artist, and DJ, Maxwell Williams. We discuss what anal actually smells like (spoiler alert: he created a perfume inspired by the deed), why anal is (in fact) for everyone, the appeal of animalic scents, Fragrantica trolls and we why secretly love them, and how human sex pheromones are not a thing… yet. Maxwell discusses how getting in touch with himself helped him cultivate his sense of smell and vice versa, and how for him, fragrance is an expression of extroversion. I also take the audience on a rollercoaster of my tumultuous relationship with Abercrombie & Fitch. Basically, we cum full circle.
FRAGS MENTIONED:
Abercrombie & Fitch Ellwood White Bergamot, Nemat Egyptian Musk, Kuumba Made Egyptian Musk, Nemat Amber, UFO Anal, ELdO Secretions Magnifiques, Agent Provocateur, Paris Hilton Eau de Parfum, Pure Instincts Oil, UFO Parfums Literalvolcano, Coty Aspen, Ralp Lauren Polo Sport, Drakkar Noir, Hugo Boss
UFO PARFUMS: Follow & Shop
LET'S CHAT ON IG: @perfumeroompod
CHECK OUT MY HOLIDAY GIFT GUIDE: www.shorturl.at/hyEH5
LET'S FIND YOUR NEXT SCENT! https://shoplist.us/emmavernon/consults

Nov 23, 2021 • 58min
25. Rose Fragrances Are In Fact For Men...and Everyone Else (with Kierin NYC Creator Mona Maine de Biran)
Today we are joined by Mona Maine de Biran – the creator/founder of one of my absolute favorite niche houses ever, Kierin NYC. And spoiler alert, I've also been pronouncing "Kierin" wrong this entire time. We discuss the inception and journey of this fragrance house – known for its unique, high quality, affordable, cruelty-free, vegan fragrances. We also talk about Mona's process of working in tandem with the perfumers (Jerome Epinette and Mathieu Nardin), as well as the inspirations and stories behind each scent.
SHOP KIERIN: kierin-nyc.com
DISCOUNT CODE: ‘EDEAL’ (Buy 1 get 1 50% off OR get 25% off)
FRAGS MENTIONED:
Alghabra Bosphorous Pearl, Parfum de Marly Delina, Kierin: Rose Ink, Nitro Noir, 10am Flirt, Sunday Brunch, Santal Sky, Pier NY; Dana Love’s Baby Soft, CK Obsession
LET'S CHAT ON IG: @perfumeroompod
CHECK OUT MY HOLIDAY GIFT GUIDE: www.shorturl.at/hyEH5
LET'S FIND YOUR NEXT SCENT! https://shoplist.us/emmavernon/consults

Nov 16, 2021 • 1h 23min
24. The Next Santal 33 (w/ Comedian Lauren Servideo)
Hilarious comedian and content creator Lauren Servideo is in the Perfume Room today!! You may know her as Anubis— your fave vapid 400-year-old vampire, or the greeter at Brandy Melville; maybe Ethan’s Mom or Victoria. What you might not know however, is that Lauren is a fellow fraghead, with an extensive collection. In this ep, Lauren takes us through her personal favorites, her first fragrances, she scents all her characters, and speaking of…guess what? Anubis has her own scent coming out just in time for the holidays. As of Cyber Monday, at the link below, you can smell like New York’s It-Nosferatu. PLUS, there's special surprise in the ep you won't want to miss...
FOLLOW LAUREN: @servideo
SHOP ANUBIS BY ANUBIS
BOOK LAUREN ON CAMEO
FRAGS MENTIONED:
Marissa Zappas Flaming Creature, The Row R, O, & W, Atelier Jasmin Angelique, Nuxe Prodigieux, Arquiste Vacation Inc., Bobbi Brown Beach, Burnin’ For You Mojave Daydream, L’Artisan Parfumeur Bana Banana, Halston, Frederic Malle Portrait of a Lady, DKNY Cashmere Mist, Lancome Tresor, Alt Crystal No. 23, Escada Rockin’ Rio, BR 540, Le Labo Santal 33, Diptyque Orpheon, Atelier Cafe Tuberosa, Glossier You, Kilian Love Don’t Be Shy, Byredo Velvet Haze, Narciso For Her, Vera Wang Princess, Miss Dior Cherie, Comme Des Garcons Sequoia, Buly Universelle, Ormaie, L’Artisan Parfumeur Dzing!, Commes des Garcons Black, Chloe Sevigny Regimes des Fleurs, Anubis by Anubis, Clinique Aromatics Elixir, Paloma Picasso, D&G Light Blue, Lady Gaga Fame, Nicki Minaj Pink Friday, Designer Imposters Chanel No. 5, VS Love Spell, Xerjoff Apollonia, Hilde Soliani Hot Milk
FOLLOW PERFUME ROOM: @perfumeroompod
FOLLOW EMMA: @emmvern IG // @emma_vern TT

Nov 9, 2021 • 1h 4min
23. Answering all of Your *Burning* Qs (w/ Candle Influencer Ashley Hosmer)
Ashley Hosmer is a beloved content creator known not just for her amazing eye for interior design, but for her nose for candles as well. In this episode, we discuss what Ashley's home smells like, how she went from a candle lover to tastemaker, plus Ashley gives us the low-down on all the candle jargon you need to know (by the end of this episode, you'll be casually weaving words like 'tunnel,' 'throw,' and 'vessel' into your everyday conversations). We talk best affordable candles, what makes a candle ‘high quality’ and what that typically costs, overrated brands, the scents (perfumes included) we just can’t quit, the ultimate cool-girl smell, the Dehv/Ouai controversy (IYKYK), plus Ashley waxes poetic (don't @ me about these candle puns) on her top 3 burns of all time.
FOLLOW ASHLEY:
IG: @ashleyhosmer // TT: @ashley.hosmer
SHOP HER DISCOUNTS: https://linktr.ee/ashleyhosmer
CHECK OUT THE INFAMOUS GOOGLE DOC: shorturl.at/fjABL
CANDLES MENTIONED: Cire Trudon, P.F. Candle Co., Norden Ojai, Overose Nudesse, East York Street, Roen Ojai Nuit, Shrine Candles, Diptyque, Otherland Sriracha Rose, Otherland Berkshires Granola, Otherland Spice it Up, Ouai Candles, Dehv Candles, BB&W candles, Stevie Venus
FRAGS MENTIONED: Maison Crivelli: Papyrus Moléculaire, Iris Malikhân, Citrus BatiKanga, Bois Datchai, Le Labo Vanille 44, Le Labo Neroli 36, BDK Gris Charnel, Juicy Couture, Abercrombie Fierce
FOLLOW PERFUME ROOM:
IG: @perfumeroompod @emmvern // TT: @emma_vern

Nov 2, 2021 • 43min
22. The Secret Formula to Going Viral (w/ Fragrance TikToker John Gonzalez)
Spoiler alert: it's ambroxan! JK, lol. Though we cannot confirm (nor deny) that such a thing exists, in today's episode, Content Creator John Gonzalez (a TikToker with over 240K followers) reveals his behind-the-scenes method and criteria for creating content. Truly, it is the closest thing I’ve heard to a foolproof formula. We also discuss John’s foray into creating fragrances, the biz of content creation, how TikTok essentially fosters/promotes plagiarism, and how we love dupes (except when those dupes are people).
Follow John:
IG: @johngnzz // TT: @johngnzz
FRAGS MENTIONED:
Parle Moi de Parfums Papyrus Oud, Vilhelm Morning Chess, Gucci Pour Homme, Maison Margiela By the Fireplace, Pierre Balmain Carbone de Balmain, Moschino Toy Boy, Estee Lauder Intuition, Diesel Plus Plus, Kayali Vanilla | 28, Ermenegildo Zegna Indonesian Oud, Commodity Book, D.S. & Durga Handbook for the Recently Deceased, Heretic Dirty Coconut, Heretic Dirty Grass, BR 540, Polo Green, Le Labo Another 13, Armani Acqua di Gio, Bentley Absolute
LET'S CHAT ON IG: @perfumeroompod
CHECK OUT MY HOLIDAY GIFT GUIDE: www.shorturl.at/hyEH5
LET'S FIND YOUR NEXT SCENT! https://shoplist.us/emmavernon/consults

Oct 26, 2021 • 1h 4min
21. Creating Photo-Realistic Scents (w/ D.S. & Durga’s David and Kavi Moltz)
David and Kavi Moltz, the husband and wife duo behind D.S. & Durga, join me in today’s episode! David is the perfumer, and Kavi is the brains behind the brand’s modern aesthetic and packaging. We talk about the origins of D.S. & Durga, which scents they’re personally wearing most, David’s process and inspiration for creating the photo-realistic scents D.S. & Durga is so well-known for (including the origin story behind the infamous Cowboy Grass), the pop-culture phenomenons inspiring them most right now, and how it’s about damn time the Festival of Lights holiday [Hanukkah] had its own scented candle.
SHOP : www.dsanddurga.com
FOLLOW: @dsanddurga
LISTEN TO DAVID'S MUSIC ON SPOTIFY: Hiko Men
FRAGS MENTIONED:
Durga, St. Vetyver, Amber Teutonic, Burning Barbershop, Tuberose Myrrhder, Breakfast Leipzig, Breakfast Highlands, Concrete After Lightning, Rose Atlantic, Bowmakers, Radio Bombay, My Indian Childhood, Portable Fireplace, ’85 Diesel, Tomb of Eagles, Prime Chanukah, Notorious Oud, Cowboy Grass
FOLLOW PERFUME ROOM:
IG: @perfumeroompod @emmvern // TT: @emma_vern