

Perfume Room
Emma Vernon
Hosted by perfumehead & comedian Emma Vernon, Perfume Room is your #1 safe space to obsess over all things scent.
Enjoy intimate, never-before-told stories from the fragrance legends you’re most curious about—master perfumers, industry legends, secret celeb fragheads, indie perfumers you should know, and lots of friends with good taste & hot takes along the way.
CRITICS CALL IT 'hilarious,' 'engaging,' 'educational,' 'just earnest enough,' & 'really bad for my wallet.’
Wherever you are on your perfume journey, you are welcome in the Perfume Room.
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Enjoy intimate, never-before-told stories from the fragrance legends you’re most curious about—master perfumers, industry legends, secret celeb fragheads, indie perfumers you should know, and lots of friends with good taste & hot takes along the way.
CRITICS CALL IT 'hilarious,' 'engaging,' 'educational,' 'just earnest enough,' & 'really bad for my wallet.’
Wherever you are on your perfume journey, you are welcome in the Perfume Room.
FOLLOW ALONG ON IG: @perfumeroompod
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Oct 19, 2021 • 1h 11min
20. The 90s Edit (w/ Base Note Bitch Liz Renstrom)
If hearing the words Malibu Musk, Pear Glace, Cucumber Melon, Country Apple, and Sun-Ripened Raspberry make you feel some type of way, this episode is for you. Base Note Bitch is the IG account unlocking your happiest and cringiest scent memories alike. Through her quippy photography and descriptions, Liz Renstrom, the mastermind behind it all -- perfectly encapsulates the people, time, and places of these nostalgic fragrances.
In this ep, we discuss how the 90s and early-aughts were the *American Pie generation,* and thus every teen scent was subsequently created/worn with one goal [getting laid], what edible perfumes actually taste like (*cough cough* looking at you Jessica Simpson Dessert), the '90s canons that would still be hits today and our memories associated with them, horse girl frags ~n OtHeR TinGz~, how Limited Too is the OG Brandi Melville, how to actually find legitimate vintage fragrances on the Internet, what makes a perfume smell like sex, the art of *dabbing,* and I smell Secretions Magnifiques for the first (and last) time.
FOLLOW LIZ:
IG: @basenote_bitch // basenotebitch.com
FRAGS MENTIONED:
Escentric Molecules Molecule 01+Iris, Montale Iris So Intense, Diptyque Fleur de Peau, Hilde Soliani Hot Milk, B&BW Vanilla Bean Noel, Nishane Ani, Atelier Des Ors Lune Feline, Commodity Velvet, Maison Margiela By the Fireplace, Diptyque Benjoin Boheme, Atelier Cafe Tuberosa, Penhaligon's Cairo, Atelier Jasmin Angelique, Atelier Clementine California, Victoria Secret Love Spell, Avon Skin So Soft, B&BW Sweet Pea, B&BW Country Apple, B&BW Sun-Ripened Raspberry, Victoria's Secret Pear Glace, Coty Tribe, Cabotine, Gap Om, Jessica Simpson Dessert Treats, Ralph Cool, Malibu Musk, Bijan Bijan, Hanae Mori, Baccarat 540, Ariana Grande Cloud, Etat Libre Secretions Magnifiques, Frederic Malle Musc Ravageur, Pure Instincts Pheromones, Papillon Angelique, Oriza L. Legrand Relique D’Amour, Mugler Womanity, Vulva Original, Agent Provocateur, Estee Lauder Knowing
PERFUME 101: Soliflores
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Oct 12, 2021 • 1h 20min
19. ~Wine & Dine~ Your Perfumes (w/ Black Girls Smell Good Founder Maiya Gant)
Created by Maiya Gaint, Black Girls Smell Good is an online community that rolls 115K members deep (across platforms) for Black women to share, obsess, and learn about all things fragrance. In this ep, I am joined by Maiya herself and WOW, it’s a juicy one. Having previously spent time in beauty retail as both a sales associate and educator, Maiya spills the secrets on the behind-the-scenes of department store beauty departments. Spoiler alert: there’s a reason you're guided towards certain fragrances and not others.
We also discuss how Cloud is NOT a dupe for BR 540, the weird Internet obsession over the latter, how Maiya got into fragrance, her inspiration for creating BGSG, her first date perfume picks, the art of ASMR in fragrance reviews, Rihanna’s Fenty fragrance, and the fine line between collecting vs. hoarding (hard to say where we fall on that one), and Maiya reveals her current relationship status… with her perfumes ;)
FRAGS MENTIONED:
Fragrance Du Bois NY 5th Ave, Penhaligon’s Cairo, The Body Shop White Musk Lover, The Body Shop Black Musk, Nemat Amber, By Rosie Jane Rosie, Pure Instincts, Le Labo Rose 31, Montale Sensual Instincts, Tom Ford Lost Cherry, Kilian Princess, Baccarat Rouge 540, Alt Crystal No. 23, Ariana Grande Cloud, Estee Lauder Pleasures, Ocean Pacific OP Juice, Estee Lauder Youth Dew, Vera Wang Princess, Kilian Princess, Viktor & Rolf Flowerbomb, Tom Ford Fucking Fabulous, Kilian’s Kissing, MFK Gentle Fluidity Gold, Pinrose Pillowtalk Poet, JHAG Not A Perfume, Clean Reserve Warm Cotton, Montale Wild Pears, Montale So Iris Intense, Kilian After Sunset, Fenty Fenty, Kilian Love Don’t Be Shy, Rihanna Reb’l Fleur, Vacation Inc by Arquiste, Tom Ford Beau de Jour, Giorgio by Giorgio Beverly Hills, Mugler Angel
PERFUME 101: Cypriol Oil
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IG: @blackgirlssmellgood TT: @blackgirlssmellgood
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Oct 5, 2021 • 1h 8min
18. Should Your Wedding Scent be Different Than Your Signature? (w/ High Priestess of Brooklyn, Alex Caiola)
Just in time to kick off the witchiest month of the year, we are joined by fellow October lover and High Priestess, Alex Caiola. Alex is an intuitive, astrologer and reader of the Tarot. We discuss getting signs from deceased loved ones in the form of smells, getting married when Mercury is in Retrograde (bc Alex is!), I give Alex a wedding scent consultation, and she reads my birth chart and tarot, live on the pod. It’s so fun and I’m obsessed with her and you will be too.
BOOK A READING WITH ALEX:
www.highpriestessofbrooklyn.com
IG: @highpriestessofbrooklyn TT: highpriestessbk
FRAGS MENTIONED IN OPENING:
Body Shop White Musk, Body Shop Black Musk, Body Shop White Musk Lover, CK Eternity Intense, Maison Margiela Lipstick On, Kierin NY Pier NY (code EMMAV fro 10% off), Bottega Veneta, Dior Homme 2011 version, Masque Milano L’Attesa, Atelier Camelia Intrepide, DedCool Blonde 03, Byredo Black Saffron
FRAGS MENTIONED IN INTERVIEW:
ELdO Jasmin et Cigarette, Oribe Cote d’Azur, Gucci Rush, D&G L’Imperatrice, Lolita Lempicka, Le Labo Bergamote 22, Commodity Moss, Commodity Orris, Masque Milano Lost Alice, BDK Gris Charnel, Le Labo Santal 33, Tom Ford Santal Blush, Le Labo Thé Noir 29
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Sep 28, 2021 • 1h 23min
17. My Secret Weapons: My Teachers! (w/ Serendipitee NYC Founders Kathryn Balcerski and Tami Katz)
I feel like I am leaking the sacred, secret family recipe — this is where I get my perfume knowledge! You all wonder how I know so much — well it’s passion, curiosity, research and… courses with Tami and Kathryn!
Learn from this BFF industry insider duo about how fragrances are developed, why we need to show more respect for toilet bowl cleaning products, our shared love for orris, their favorite fragrances, the perfume secret that will keep your perfumes from expiring, and coolest of all — they give me and Perfume Room editor Wyatt Peake (yes, this is the episode where you all meet Wyatt!) a behind-the scenes tour of their scent studio. It’s *Show and Smell* baby. We're smelling raw ingredients and giving you our unfiltered thoughts. And perhaps, most importantly, we settle once and for all how neroli is pronounced!
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www.serendipiteenyc.com
FRAGS MENTIONED:
Guerlain Shalimar, Laura Mercier Vanilla, Bulgari Au Thé Blanc, D&G Light Blue, Ralph Lauren Lauren, Kenzo Parfum d’Été, Axe Dark Temptation, CK Euphoria, Henry Rose, Olika, Tom Ford Soleil Blanc, Commodity Orris, Jean Paul Gaultier Le Male
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Sep 21, 2021 • 56min
16. INVITE ONLY (& you're all invited!) (w/ Kayali Founder Mona Kattan)
OH MON DIEU. Today we are joined by perfume icon, entrepreneur, influencer, Co-Founder of Huda Beauty, and Founder of Kayali Fragrances(!), Mona Kattan. Mona educates us on the art of layering fragrance, reveals her favorite Kayali fragrance and layering combos, and of course gives us the behind-the-scenes of all your favorite Kayali perfumes including the latest 2021 release: Invite Only Amber | 23 😍
Mona also shares her personal journey of how she got to where she is today with some fun personal scent stories and life lessons along the way.
FRAGS MENTIONED:
Kayali (entire line!) Liz Claiborne Curve, Lancome Oui, Micallef, Escada Magnestism
FOLLOW MONA: @monakattan @kayali
SHOP KAYALI: hudabeauty.com
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Sep 14, 2021 • 55min
15. Lavender Is Not the Answer!!! (w/ Aromatherapist Frauke Galia)
Wouldn't you know it-- today is World Smell and Taste Day, and to pay it proper homage, we're joined by the incredible Aromatherapist/Smell Trainer, and host of An Aromatic Life podcast, Frauke Galia. Frauke explains what smell training is and how it works, we discuss the ugly step-sisters anosmia and parosmia, how LAVENDER IS A LIE!! (ok I'm *somewhat* pushing my own agenda here), how the term 'aromatherapy' has been dragged by MLM girlies you went to HS with, and how you can incorporate scent into your everyday life to heighten levels of overall well-being.
FRAGS MENTIONED:
The Zoo Everlasting, Raymond Matts Maiaday
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Sep 7, 2021 • 1h
14. Only Virgos Wear Baccarat Rouge (w/ Astrologer David Odyssey)
In this ep, I am joined by astrologer, reader of the Tarot, and host of The Luminaries podcast, David Odyssey. We talk about the scents each zodiac sign *should* be wearing, traveling to the fifth dimension, the birth charts of your fave (and least fave) perfume-line-having celebrities, our own Big 3 and corresponding scent preferences, and why you MUST AVOID Washington Square Park at all costs.
FRAGS MENTIONED:
Witch Oils from Flower Power, Apotheke Rose Bud Oud Candle, Boy Smells Rose Load, Penhaligon's Cairo, Carolina Herrera 212, Escentric Molecules, Tom Ford Lost Cherry, Adam Levine, Fenty, Kierin NYC Rose Ink, Paco Rabanne, CK1, Joop Homme, CK Summer, Dior Sauvage, Baccarat Rouge 540, Creed Aventus, JHAG Not A Perfume, Byredo Gypsy Water, Bleu de Chanel, Le Labo Santal 33, D&G Light Blue, Mugler Alien, YSL Black Opium, TF Black Orchid
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Aug 31, 2021 • 36min
13. The *Tell-All*: Emma's Favorites
You're gonna wanna take notes for this one bb. This ep is my first-ever solo where I answer all the questions I get asked from you guys most frequently! I share my favorite affordable frags, fall scents, transitional/year-round scents, colognes, and other beauty products. I also reveal my current full bottle wish list No stone is unturned, or juice unsprayed in this *JuIcY* tell-all.
FRAGS MENTIONED:
Atelier Jasmin Angelique, DKNY Be Delicious, Escada Ibiza Hippie, Nemat Amber, Ambre Blends Ambre, Good Chemistry- Brainiac, Wild Child, Copper Canyon, Solar Jasmine, Pacifica Blood Orange, Nemat Amber, Nemat Sandal Wood, Korres Cashmere Kumquat, Korres Apothecary Wild Rose, Atelier Cafe Tuberosa, BDK Gris Charnel, Diptyque Orhpeon, Le Labo Bergamote 22, Commodity Orris, Kilian Angel's Share, Versace Crystal Noir, Byredo Sundaze, ELdO I Am Trash, Chloe Nomade, Byredo Rose Noir, Jo Malone Grapefruit, Robert Piguet Fracas, Estee Lauder Youth Dew, Ralph Lauren Polo line, Tumi Awaken, Rosie by Rosie Jane, Guerlain Vetiver, Creed Aventus Cologne, Memo Sicilian Leather, Black Afgano, Malin & Goetz Leather, D.S. & Durga Amber Kiso, Bleu de Chanel, Lancome Magnifique, Marc Jacobs Lola, Penhaligon's Cairo, Parfum de Marly Meliora, MFK Oud Satin Mood, Altaia Yu Son, Aerin Evening Rose, Aesop Marrakech, D.S. & Durga Cowboy Grass, Montale Wild Pears
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Aug 24, 2021 • 53min
12. The Woman Behind all the Smells of Your Childhood (w/ Ann Gottlieb)
Listen to me fangirl for an hour straight with the nose behind every major fragrance from your childhood: Ann Gottlieb. Ann is as much of a pioneer as she is an institution in the fragrance industry. She is the nose behind fragrance canons like Axe, J’Adore Dior, Marc Jacobs Daisy, Carolina Herrera 212, all of the Calvin Klein fragrances, and honestly, I’m just scratching the surface. Her fragrances range from everything from fine fragrance to body care to home fragrance and more. If you can smell it, she can scent it.
In this episode, we discuss the rise of edible fragrances, the vision behind Axe, why J’Adore Dior wouldn’t be created today, the difference in style between French fragrances versus American ones, Ann’s relationship with and tutelage under Estée Lauder, how I need to stop trying to make Giorgio happen, new innovations and trends in fragrance, how Ann got started in this industry and what her advice is to those looking to follow in her footsteps.
Trust me: this is an episode you don’t want to miss.
FRAGS MENTIONED:
(INTRO) Robert Piguet Petit Fracas, Guerlain Angelique Noire, MFK Gentle Fluidity Gold, Maison Margiela By the Fireplace, Commodity Velvet, Lancome La Vie Est Belle Intensement, Christian Dior Bois D'Argent.
(INTERVIEW) Atelier Vanille Insensée, Tom Ford Soleil Blanc, Mugler Angel, Glossier You, Bath and Body Works Kaleidoscope, The Body Shop White Musk, Axe, J’Adore Dior, Guerlain Shalimar, Calvin Klein Obsession, Marc Jacobs Lola, Giorgio, Givenchy Amarige, Estée Lauder Beautiful, Bleu de Chanel, CK One, Chloe Innocence, Prada Carbon.
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Aug 17, 2021 • 1h 5min
11. Don't Scent Your Face! (w/ 4AM Skin Co-Founders Sabrina Sadeghian & Jade Beguelin)
After a brief summer hiatus, Perfume Room is back and this week we have 4AM Skin co-founders and self-proclaimed skinimalists, Sabrina Sadeghian (@sabsade) and Jade Beguelin (@jadebeguelin). Hear from these guru influencers about which ingredients you actually need in your skincare routine, how they boiled down the benefits of a 12-step routine into 2 simple products, the science behind 4AM Skin, and oh, spoiler alert, your computer and phone screens are aging you so, Stop. Reading. This. Now. JK, phone addicts 4eva.
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FRAGS MENTIONED:
Marc Jacobs Decadence, Victoria's Secret Cherry Blossom Body Mist, Givenchy Oud, Byredo Black Saffron, Maison Margiela Jazz Club, Maison Margiela Beach Walk, Gisou Honey Hair Perfume, Valentino Donna Born In Roma, Jo Malone Peony & Blush Suede, Cartier So Pretty, DedCool Blonde 03, Penhaligon's Cairo and Tom Ford F*cking Fabulous
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