

Perfume Room
Emma Vernon
Hosted by perfumehead & comedian Emma Vernon, Perfume Room is your #1 safe space to obsess over all things scent.
Enjoy intimate, never-before-told stories from the fragrance legends you’re most curious about—master perfumers, industry titans, secret celeb fragheads, indie perfumers you should know, and lots of friends with good taste & hot takes along the way.
CRITICS CALL IT 'hilarious,' 'engaging,' 'educational,' 'just earnest enough,' & 'really bad for my wallet.’
Wherever you are on your perfume journey, you are welcome in the Perfume Room.
FOLLOW ALONG ON IG: @perfumeroompod
Enjoy intimate, never-before-told stories from the fragrance legends you’re most curious about—master perfumers, industry titans, secret celeb fragheads, indie perfumers you should know, and lots of friends with good taste & hot takes along the way.
CRITICS CALL IT 'hilarious,' 'engaging,' 'educational,' 'just earnest enough,' & 'really bad for my wallet.’
Wherever you are on your perfume journey, you are welcome in the Perfume Room.
FOLLOW ALONG ON IG: @perfumeroompod
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Nov 9, 2021 • 1h 4min
23. Answering all of Your *Burning* Qs (w/ Candle Influencer Ashley Hosmer)
Ashley Hosmer is a beloved content creator known not just for her amazing eye for interior design, but for her nose for candles as well. In this episode, we discuss what Ashley's home smells like, how she went from a candle lover to tastemaker, plus Ashley gives us the low-down on all the candle jargon you need to know (by the end of this episode, you'll be casually weaving words like 'tunnel,' 'throw,' and 'vessel' into your everyday conversations). We talk best affordable candles, what makes a candle ‘high quality’ and what that typically costs, overrated brands, the scents (perfumes included) we just can’t quit, the ultimate cool-girl smell, the Dehv/Ouai controversy (IYKYK), plus Ashley waxes poetic (don't @ me about these candle puns) on her top 3 burns of all time.
FOLLOW ASHLEY:
IG: @ashleyhosmer // TT: @ashley.hosmer
SHOP HER DISCOUNTS: https://linktr.ee/ashleyhosmer
CHECK OUT THE INFAMOUS GOOGLE DOC: shorturl.at/fjABL
CANDLES MENTIONED: Cire Trudon, P.F. Candle Co., Norden Ojai, Overose Nudesse, East York Street, Roen Ojai Nuit, Shrine Candles, Diptyque, Otherland Sriracha Rose, Otherland Berkshires Granola, Otherland Spice it Up, Ouai Candles, Dehv Candles, BB&W candles, Stevie Venus
FRAGS MENTIONED: Maison Crivelli: Papyrus Moléculaire, Iris Malikhân, Citrus BatiKanga, Bois Datchai, Le Labo Vanille 44, Le Labo Neroli 36, BDK Gris Charnel, Juicy Couture, Abercrombie Fierce
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IG: @perfumeroompod @emmvern // TT: @emma_vern

Nov 2, 2021 • 43min
22. The Secret Formula to Going Viral (w/ Fragrance TikToker John Gonzalez)
Spoiler alert: it's ambroxan! JK, lol. Though we cannot confirm (nor deny) that such a thing exists, in today's episode, Content Creator John Gonzalez (a TikToker with over 240K followers) reveals his behind-the-scenes method and criteria for creating content. Truly, it is the closest thing I’ve heard to a foolproof formula. We also discuss John’s foray into creating fragrances, the biz of content creation, how TikTok essentially fosters/promotes plagiarism, and how we love dupes (except when those dupes are people).
Follow John:
IG: @johngnzz // TT: @johngnzz
FRAGS MENTIONED:
Parle Moi de Parfums Papyrus Oud, Vilhelm Morning Chess, Gucci Pour Homme, Maison Margiela By the Fireplace, Pierre Balmain Carbone de Balmain, Moschino Toy Boy, Estee Lauder Intuition, Diesel Plus Plus, Kayali Vanilla | 28, Ermenegildo Zegna Indonesian Oud, Commodity Book, D.S. & Durga Handbook for the Recently Deceased, Heretic Dirty Coconut, Heretic Dirty Grass, BR 540, Polo Green, Le Labo Another 13, Armani Acqua di Gio, Bentley Absolute
LET'S CHAT ON IG: @perfumeroompod
CHECK OUT MY HOLIDAY GIFT GUIDE: www.shorturl.at/hyEH5
LET'S FIND YOUR NEXT SCENT! https://shoplist.us/emmavernon/consults

Oct 26, 2021 • 1h 4min
21. Creating Photo-Realistic Scents (w/ D.S. & Durga’s David and Kavi Moltz)
David and Kavi Moltz, the husband and wife duo behind D.S. & Durga, join me in today’s episode! David is the perfumer, and Kavi is the brains behind the brand’s modern aesthetic and packaging. We talk about the origins of D.S. & Durga, which scents they’re personally wearing most, David’s process and inspiration for creating the photo-realistic scents D.S. & Durga is so well-known for (including the origin story behind the infamous Cowboy Grass), the pop-culture phenomenons inspiring them most right now, and how it’s about damn time the Festival of Lights holiday [Hanukkah] had its own scented candle.
SHOP : www.dsanddurga.com
FOLLOW: @dsanddurga
LISTEN TO DAVID'S MUSIC ON SPOTIFY: Hiko Men
FRAGS MENTIONED:
Durga, St. Vetyver, Amber Teutonic, Burning Barbershop, Tuberose Myrrhder, Breakfast Leipzig, Breakfast Highlands, Concrete After Lightning, Rose Atlantic, Bowmakers, Radio Bombay, My Indian Childhood, Portable Fireplace, ’85 Diesel, Tomb of Eagles, Prime Chanukah, Notorious Oud, Cowboy Grass
FOLLOW PERFUME ROOM:
IG: @perfumeroompod @emmvern // TT: @emma_vern

Oct 19, 2021 • 1h 11min
20. The 90s Edit (w/ Base Note Bitch Liz Renstrom)
If hearing the words Malibu Musk, Pear Glace, Cucumber Melon, Country Apple, and Sun-Ripened Raspberry make you feel some type of way, this episode is for you. Base Note Bitch is the IG account unlocking your happiest and cringiest scent memories alike. Through her quippy photography and descriptions, Liz Renstrom, the mastermind behind it all -- perfectly encapsulates the people, time, and places of these nostalgic fragrances.
In this ep, we discuss how the 90s and early-aughts were the *American Pie generation,* and thus every teen scent was subsequently created/worn with one goal [getting laid], what edible perfumes actually taste like (*cough cough* looking at you Jessica Simpson Dessert), the '90s canons that would still be hits today and our memories associated with them, horse girl frags ~n OtHeR TinGz~, how Limited Too is the OG Brandi Melville, how to actually find legitimate vintage fragrances on the Internet, what makes a perfume smell like sex, the art of *dabbing,* and I smell Secretions Magnifiques for the first (and last) time.
FOLLOW LIZ:
IG: @basenote_bitch // basenotebitch.com
FRAGS MENTIONED:
Escentric Molecules Molecule 01+Iris, Montale Iris So Intense, Diptyque Fleur de Peau, Hilde Soliani Hot Milk, B&BW Vanilla Bean Noel, Nishane Ani, Atelier Des Ors Lune Feline, Commodity Velvet, Maison Margiela By the Fireplace, Diptyque Benjoin Boheme, Atelier Cafe Tuberosa, Penhaligon's Cairo, Atelier Jasmin Angelique, Atelier Clementine California, Victoria Secret Love Spell, Avon Skin So Soft, B&BW Sweet Pea, B&BW Country Apple, B&BW Sun-Ripened Raspberry, Victoria's Secret Pear Glace, Coty Tribe, Cabotine, Gap Om, Jessica Simpson Dessert Treats, Ralph Cool, Malibu Musk, Bijan Bijan, Hanae Mori, Baccarat 540, Ariana Grande Cloud, Etat Libre Secretions Magnifiques, Frederic Malle Musc Ravageur, Pure Instincts Pheromones, Papillon Angelique, Oriza L. Legrand Relique D’Amour, Mugler Womanity, Vulva Original, Agent Provocateur, Estee Lauder Knowing
PERFUME 101: Soliflores
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IG: @perfumeroompod @emmvern // TT: @emma_vern

Oct 12, 2021 • 1h 20min
19. ~Wine & Dine~ Your Perfumes (w/ Black Girls Smell Good Founder Maiya Gant)
Created by Maiya Gaint, Black Girls Smell Good is an online community that rolls 115K members deep (across platforms) for Black women to share, obsess, and learn about all things fragrance. In this ep, I am joined by Maiya herself and WOW, it’s a juicy one. Having previously spent time in beauty retail as both a sales associate and educator, Maiya spills the secrets on the behind-the-scenes of department store beauty departments. Spoiler alert: there’s a reason you're guided towards certain fragrances and not others.
We also discuss how Cloud is NOT a dupe for BR 540, the weird Internet obsession over the latter, how Maiya got into fragrance, her inspiration for creating BGSG, her first date perfume picks, the art of ASMR in fragrance reviews, Rihanna’s Fenty fragrance, and the fine line between collecting vs. hoarding (hard to say where we fall on that one), and Maiya reveals her current relationship status… with her perfumes ;)
FRAGS MENTIONED:
Fragrance Du Bois NY 5th Ave, Penhaligon’s Cairo, The Body Shop White Musk Lover, The Body Shop Black Musk, Nemat Amber, By Rosie Jane Rosie, Pure Instincts, Le Labo Rose 31, Montale Sensual Instincts, Tom Ford Lost Cherry, Kilian Princess, Baccarat Rouge 540, Alt Crystal No. 23, Ariana Grande Cloud, Estee Lauder Pleasures, Ocean Pacific OP Juice, Estee Lauder Youth Dew, Vera Wang Princess, Kilian Princess, Viktor & Rolf Flowerbomb, Tom Ford Fucking Fabulous, Kilian’s Kissing, MFK Gentle Fluidity Gold, Pinrose Pillowtalk Poet, JHAG Not A Perfume, Clean Reserve Warm Cotton, Montale Wild Pears, Montale So Iris Intense, Kilian After Sunset, Fenty Fenty, Kilian Love Don’t Be Shy, Rihanna Reb’l Fleur, Vacation Inc by Arquiste, Tom Ford Beau de Jour, Giorgio by Giorgio Beverly Hills, Mugler Angel
PERFUME 101: Cypriol Oil
FOLLOW MAIYA:
IG: @blackgirlssmellgood TT: @blackgirlssmellgood
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IG: @perfumeroompod @emmvern // TT: @emma_vern

Oct 5, 2021 • 1h 8min
18. Should Your Wedding Scent be Different Than Your Signature? (w/ High Priestess of Brooklyn, Alex Caiola)
Just in time to kick off the witchiest month of the year, we are joined by fellow October lover and High Priestess, Alex Caiola. Alex is an intuitive, astrologer and reader of the Tarot. We discuss getting signs from deceased loved ones in the form of smells, getting married when Mercury is in Retrograde (bc Alex is!), I give Alex a wedding scent consultation, and she reads my birth chart and tarot, live on the pod. It’s so fun and I’m obsessed with her and you will be too.
BOOK A READING WITH ALEX:
www.highpriestessofbrooklyn.com
IG: @highpriestessofbrooklyn TT: highpriestessbk
FRAGS MENTIONED IN OPENING:
Body Shop White Musk, Body Shop Black Musk, Body Shop White Musk Lover, CK Eternity Intense, Maison Margiela Lipstick On, Kierin NY Pier NY (code EMMAV fro 10% off), Bottega Veneta, Dior Homme 2011 version, Masque Milano L’Attesa, Atelier Camelia Intrepide, DedCool Blonde 03, Byredo Black Saffron
FRAGS MENTIONED IN INTERVIEW:
ELdO Jasmin et Cigarette, Oribe Cote d’Azur, Gucci Rush, D&G L’Imperatrice, Lolita Lempicka, Le Labo Bergamote 22, Commodity Moss, Commodity Orris, Masque Milano Lost Alice, BDK Gris Charnel, Le Labo Santal 33, Tom Ford Santal Blush, Le Labo Thé Noir 29
FOLLOW PERFUME ROOM:
IG: @perfumeroompod @emmvern // TT: @emma_vern

Sep 28, 2021 • 1h 23min
17. My Secret Weapons: My Teachers! (w/ Serendipitee NYC Founders Kathryn Balcerski and Tami Katz)
I feel like I am leaking the sacred, secret family recipe — this is where I get my perfume knowledge! You all wonder how I know so much — well it’s passion, curiosity, research and… courses with Tami and Kathryn!
Learn from this BFF industry insider duo about how fragrances are developed, why we need to show more respect for toilet bowl cleaning products, our shared love for orris, their favorite fragrances, the perfume secret that will keep your perfumes from expiring, and coolest of all — they give me and Perfume Room editor Wyatt Peake (yes, this is the episode where you all meet Wyatt!) a behind-the scenes tour of their scent studio. It’s *Show and Smell* baby. We're smelling raw ingredients and giving you our unfiltered thoughts. And perhaps, most importantly, we settle once and for all how neroli is pronounced!
FOLLOW SERENDIPITEE:
@serendipitee_nyc
www.serendipiteenyc.com
FRAGS MENTIONED:
Guerlain Shalimar, Laura Mercier Vanilla, Bulgari Au Thé Blanc, D&G Light Blue, Ralph Lauren Lauren, Kenzo Parfum d’Été, Axe Dark Temptation, CK Euphoria, Henry Rose, Olika, Tom Ford Soleil Blanc, Commodity Orris, Jean Paul Gaultier Le Male
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Sep 21, 2021 • 56min
16. INVITE ONLY (& you're all invited!) (w/ Kayali Founder Mona Kattan)
OH MON DIEU. Today we are joined by perfume icon, entrepreneur, influencer, Co-Founder of Huda Beauty, and Founder of Kayali Fragrances(!), Mona Kattan. Mona educates us on the art of layering fragrance, reveals her favorite Kayali fragrance and layering combos, and of course gives us the behind-the-scenes of all your favorite Kayali perfumes including the latest 2021 release: Invite Only Amber | 23 😍
Mona also shares her personal journey of how she got to where she is today with some fun personal scent stories and life lessons along the way.
FRAGS MENTIONED:
Kayali (entire line!) Liz Claiborne Curve, Lancome Oui, Micallef, Escada Magnestism
FOLLOW MONA: @monakattan @kayali
SHOP KAYALI: hudabeauty.com
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Sep 14, 2021 • 55min
15. Lavender Is Not the Answer!!! (w/ Aromatherapist Frauke Galia)
Wouldn't you know it-- today is World Smell and Taste Day, and to pay it proper homage, we're joined by the incredible Aromatherapist/Smell Trainer, and host of An Aromatic Life podcast, Frauke Galia. Frauke explains what smell training is and how it works, we discuss the ugly step-sisters anosmia and parosmia, how LAVENDER IS A LIE!! (ok I'm *somewhat* pushing my own agenda here), how the term 'aromatherapy' has been dragged by MLM girlies you went to HS with, and how you can incorporate scent into your everyday life to heighten levels of overall well-being.
FRAGS MENTIONED:
The Zoo Everlasting, Raymond Matts Maiaday
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IG: @perfumeroompod @emmvern // TT: @emma_vern

Sep 7, 2021 • 1h
14. Only Virgos Wear Baccarat Rouge (w/ Astrologer David Odyssey)
In this ep, I am joined by astrologer, reader of the Tarot, and host of The Luminaries podcast, David Odyssey. We talk about the scents each zodiac sign *should* be wearing, traveling to the fifth dimension, the birth charts of your fave (and least fave) perfume-line-having celebrities, our own Big 3 and corresponding scent preferences, and why you MUST AVOID Washington Square Park at all costs.
FRAGS MENTIONED:
Witch Oils from Flower Power, Apotheke Rose Bud Oud Candle, Boy Smells Rose Load, Penhaligon's Cairo, Carolina Herrera 212, Escentric Molecules, Tom Ford Lost Cherry, Adam Levine, Fenty, Kierin NYC Rose Ink, Paco Rabanne, CK1, Joop Homme, CK Summer, Dior Sauvage, Baccarat Rouge 540, Creed Aventus, JHAG Not A Perfume, Byredo Gypsy Water, Bleu de Chanel, Le Labo Santal 33, D&G Light Blue, Mugler Alien, YSL Black Opium, TF Black Orchid
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