
We the People
A weekly show of constitutional debate hosted by National Constitution Center President and CEO Jeffrey Rosen where listeners can hear the best arguments on all sides of the constitutional issues at the center of American life.
Latest episodes

Mar 1, 2024 • 60min
Can Texas and Florida Ban Viewpoint Discrimination on Social Media Platforms?
This week, the Supreme Court heard oral arguments in NetChoice v. Paxton and Moody v. NetChoice, which involved challenges to attempts by Texas and Florida to prevent social media sites from banning viewpoint discrimination. The challenges were brought by NetChoice, which argues that the laws’ content-moderation restrictions and must-carry provisions violate the First Amendment. The case could determine the future of our most important platforms, from Facebook to X to YouTube. Alex Abdo of the Knight First Amendment Institute and Larry Lessig of Harvard Law School recap the key issues in both cases; discuss the ideas raised in oral arguments; and preview the wide-ranging impacts these cases may bring. Resources:
Moody v. NetChoice (oral argument via C-SPAN; transcript)
NetChoice v. Paxton (oral argument via C-SPAN; transcript)
Larry Lessig, Amicus Brief in Support of Respondents
Alex Abdo, Amicus Brief in Support of Neither Party
Lochner v. New York (1905)
PruneYard Shopping Center v. Robins (1980)
Zauderer v. Office of Disc. Counsel (1985)
Rumsfeld v. FAIR (2006)
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Feb 22, 2024 • 1h 5min
The Pursuit of Happiness: A Conversation with Jeffrey Rosen and Jeffrey Goldberg
On Presidents Day 2024, NCC President and CEO Jeffrey Rosen launched his new book at the NCC in conversation with Jeffrey Goldberg, editor in chief of The Atlantic. They discuss The Pursuit of Happiness: How Classical Writers on Virtue Inspired the Lives of the Founders and Defined America. This program was recorded live on February 19, 2024, and presented in partnership with The Atlantic. Resources:
Jeffrey Rosen, The Pursuit of Happiness: How Classical Writers on Virtue Inspired the Lives of the Founders and Defined America (2024)
Cicero, The Tusculan Disputations (ca. 45 BC)
The Quill Project
The King James Bible (1611)
Pythagoras, Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy
The Webster-Hayne Debates
Trump v. Anderson
“Should President Trump Be Allowed on the 2024 Ballot?,” We the People podcast (Jan. 11, 2024)
“Rhetoric of Freedom,” The Atlantic (Sept. 1999)
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Feb 15, 2024 • 1h 13min
The Founders, the Pursuit of Happiness, and the Virtuous Life
Panel discussion on classical writers' influence on the founding generation. Delve into virtues like humility and self-improvement. Explore Jefferson's engagement with Cicero's teachings on governance and happiness. Parallel between past debates and contemporary challenges. Importance of pocket Constitutions in shaping civic virtues. Historical transition of the pursuit of happiness and evolution of governance structures in democracy. Analysis of the shift from virtue to autonomy in politics and culture.

Feb 9, 2024 • 57min
The Constitution Drafting Project: A Discussion of Five New Amendments
Panelists discuss the Constitution Drafting Project and the agreement on five amendments. They highlight the importance of civil discourse, proposed amendments, and the significance of protecting individual rights. The discussion includes debates over the citizenship requirement for President, principles for amending the Constitution, removing incompetent members from government, term limits for Supreme Court justices, interpretations and goals of the Declaration, and expressing gratitude for the project's commitment to civil dialogue and the Constitution's ideals.

Feb 1, 2024 • 60min
David Hume and the Ideas That Shaped America
Called “a degenerate son of science” by Thomas Jefferson and a “bungling lawgiver” by James Madison, Scottish philosopher David Hume was cited so often at the Constitutional Convention that delegates seemed to have committed his essays to memory. In this episode, we are sharing audio from a recent America’s Town Hall program featuring Angela Coventry, author of Hume: A Guide for the Perplexed; Dennis Rasmussen, author of The Infidel and the Professor: David Hume, Adam Smith, and the Friendship That Shaped Modern Thought; and Aaron Alexander Zubia, author of The Political Thought of David Hume, who discuss Hume’s philosophical legacy and its profound impact on the shaping of America. Jeffrey Rosen, president and CEO of the National Constitution Center, moderates. This program was streamed live on January 29, 2024. Resources: Angela Coventry, ed., A Treatise of Human Nature: Being an Attempt to Introduce the Experimental Method of Reasoning into Moral Subjects Dennis Rasmussen, The Infidel and the Professor: David Hume, Adam Smith, and the Friendship That Shaped Modern Thought Aaron Alexander Zubia, The Political Thought of David Hume: The Origins of Liberalism and the Modern Political Imagination National Constitution Center Town Hall program, Montesquieu and the Constitution Jeffrey Rosen, The Pursuit of Happiness: How Classical Writers on Virtue Inspired the Lives of the Founders and Defined America (2024) Hume Texts Online, https://davidhume.org/ Federalist No. 10 Alexander Hamilton, The Continentalist Federalist No. 85 Questions or comments about the show? Email us at podcast@constitutioncenter.org. Continue today’s conversation on Facebook and Twitter using @ConstitutionCtr. Sign up to receive Constitution Weekly, our email roundup of constitutional news and debate, at bit.ly/constitutionweekly. You can find transcripts for each episode on the podcast pages in our Media Library.

Jan 25, 2024 • 58min
Unpacking the Supreme Court’s Tech Term
Legal experts Alex Abdo, Clay Calvert, and David Greene discuss key tech cases before the Supreme Court, including content moderation provisions on social media platforms, restrictions on government officials' social media accounts, applying old legal doctrines to new digital platforms, and the government's role in social media content moderation.

Jan 19, 2024 • 58min
Will The Supreme Court Overturn Chevron?
Guests Christopher Walker, a professor at Michigan Law School, and Timothy Sandefur from the Goldwater Institute, discuss the recent Supreme Court oral arguments on whether the landmark Chevron case should be overturned. They explore the future of Chevron and the administrative state, highlighting topics such as delegation, expertise, accountability, judicial deference, the importance of starry decisis, implications on Congress and citizens, and the debate surrounding the potential overturning of Chevron.

Jan 11, 2024 • 1h
Should President Trump Be Allowed on the 2024 Ballot?
In this episode, professors Josh Blackman and Gerard Magliocca dive into the meaning and purpose of the 14th Amendment and the arguments for and against Trump's eligibility to run for a second term. They discuss the constitutional issues surrounding Section 3, the implications for Congress and states, the historical context of insurrection, the decision-making authority for Trump's eligibility, the options if he wins the nomination, and the comparison to Bush v. Gore. Finally, they present their final thoughts on the Supreme Court case.

Jan 4, 2024 • 1h 4min
From Spies to Leakers: The History of the Espionage Act
The podcast explores the history and constitutional legacy of the Espionage Act of 1917. Topics include the Act's origins, expansion to prosecute dissidents, complexities and limitations, classification system in the US, use against media sources, Trump administration's record in prosecuting leakers, and proposals for considering public interest and First Amendment problems.

Dec 28, 2023 • 1h 1min
Loyalists vs. Patriots and the American Revolution
In this episode, Joyce Lee Malcolm, author of The Times That Try Men’s Souls: The Adams, the Quincys, and the Families Divided by the American Revolution—and How They Shaped a New Nation, and Eli Merritt, author of Disunion Among Ourselves: The Perilous Politics of the American Revolution, explore the origins and clashing ideologies during the American Revolution, how loyalists and patriots feared civil war, and how the founders’ fears of demaguges influenced their approach to constitutional design and politics. Jeffrey Rosen, president and CEO of the National Constitution Center, moderates. This program was streamed live on December 13, 2023. Resources:
Eli Merritt, Disunion Among Ourselves: The Perilous Politics of the American Revolution
Joyce Lee Malcolm, The Times That Try Men's Souls: The Adams, the Quincys, and the Battle for Loyalty in the American Revolution
The Declaration of Independence
Eli Merrit, "Why demagogues were the Founding Fathers' greatest fear," LA Times
Questions or comments about the show? Email us at podcast@constitutioncenter.org.Continue today’s conversation on Facebook and Twitter using @ConstitutionCtr. Sign up to receive Constitution Weekly, our email roundup of constitutional news and debate, at bit.ly/constitutionweekly.You can find transcripts for each episode on the podcast pages in our Media Library.