Divergent Conversations
Megan Anna Neff & Patrick Casale
Dr. Megan Neff and Patrick Casale are two Neurodivergent therapists in a neurotypical world. During this podcast, they’ll talk about their own personal experiences as Autistic-ADHDers. They will reflect on their lived experience as AuDHD mental health professionals, and entrepreneurs, as well as offer clinical guidance, and support. Episodes will be conversational in nature, and they’ll interview other ND Folx to amplify the voices of other neurodivergent advocates and individuals as they share their authentic stories. New episodes will come out weekly, on all major platforms. Megan told Patrick, ”I’ll bring the chaos, You organize it.” This perfectly sums up their working relationship and friendship. Reflections of two neurodivergent clinicians. Raw, Vulnerable, Affirmative As Hell. Follow on instagram.com/divergentconversations
Topics include Autism, ADHD, Sleep struggles, Chronic Illness, RSD, Alexithymia, Autistic burnout, Intersectionality, Neuroqueer, Creativity, OCD, Neurodivergence, Affirming Language, Small business ownership, Unpacking Internalized Ableism, and so much more.
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Topics include Autism, ADHD, Sleep struggles, Chronic Illness, RSD, Alexithymia, Autistic burnout, Intersectionality, Neuroqueer, Creativity, OCD, Neurodivergence, Affirming Language, Small business ownership, Unpacking Internalized Ableism, and so much more.
If you love the podcast, please leave us a 5 star review https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/divergent-conversations/id1662009631
Visit our website for all podcast episodes and sponsorship opportunities divergentpod.com
Legal Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be considered medical advice. Always consult a qualified healthcare provider or medical professional for personalized advice regarding any medical condition or treatment.
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Sep 12, 2025 • 1h 19min
Episode 123 (Season 4): Not an Epidemic: Behind the Rise in Autism Diagnoses [featuring Dr. Donna Henderson]
In this engaging discussion, neuropsychologist Dr. Donna Henderson, co-author of 'Is This Autism?' dives into the complexities of autism diagnoses. She challenges the notion of an 'epidemic,' highlighting how improved awareness and diagnostic practices contribute to rising numbers. Dr. Henderson emphasizes the power of language in shaping perceptions and the stigma faced by autistic individuals. The conversation reveals the importance of accurate representation and the evolving understanding of neurodiversity, making a compelling case for compassion and acceptance.
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Sep 5, 2025 • 47min
Episode 122 (Season 4): Claiming Your Neurodivergent Identity: Discovery and What Comes Next
The discussion dives into the emotional journey of discovering one’s neurodivergent identity, highlighting both the relief and uncertainty that comes with it. Insights on formal diagnosis versus self-identification reveal the importance of inclusive language and community support. The speakers share personal anecdotes about navigating neurodivergent traits and the challenges of accessing assessments. Barriers like stigma and systemic hurdles are examined, alongside practical advice for accommodations and the implications of disclosure in various settings.
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Aug 29, 2025 • 50min
Episode 121 (Season 3): Burnout City: Burnout Symptoms at a Cellular Level [featuring Dr. Mel Houser]
Dr. Mel Houser, an Autistic family physician and founder of All Brains Belong VT, dives into the complexities of Autistic burnout. The discussion highlights how mitochondrial dysfunction and post-exertional malaise (PEM) manifest at a cellular level, impacting energy regulation. Dr. Houser emphasizes the importance of pacing, sensory adjustments, and understanding underlying health issues that often go undiagnosed. Listeners gain practical strategies for managing chronic fatigue and insights into the vital interplay between mental health and physical well-being.
Aug 22, 2025 • 44min
Episode 120 (Season 3): Burnout City Finale: Boundaries, Self-Advocacy, and Accommodations
The hosts dive into the complexities of self-advocacy and boundary-setting for neurodivergent individuals. They explore practical strategies for seeking accommodations and the emotional struggles tied to asserting personal needs. With insights on partial self-disclosure and navigating workplace dynamics, the discussion highlights the importance of community support. Listeners gain valuable resources for managing burnout and fostering personal well-being, all while reflecting on the transformative power of friendship amidst challenging experiences.
Aug 15, 2025 • 42min
Episode 119 (Season 3): AuDHD Burnout City: How Autistic and ADHD Burnout Collide and Compensate
Exploring the complexities of ADHD and autistic burnout, the hosts delve into how these experiences intertwine for AuDHD individuals. They share personal stories about the shame and executive dysfunction tied to burnout, while discussing the need for better support systems. Using relatable metaphors, they frame burnout as both an alarm signal and an opportunity for change. The conversation also highlights the unique capabilities of dual neurotypes, promoting a sustainable approach that balances structure and creativity in life.
Aug 8, 2025 • 48min
Episode 118 (Season 3): Autistic Burnout City: Life When the Mask Comes Off
Burnout can hit hard for late-diagnosed autistic and ADHD adults, particularly when masking becomes exhausting. The hosts discuss the liberating yet destabilizing experience of unmasking and how it opens doors to authenticity. They share personal stories of navigating changes in relationships and the struggle of rediscovering bodily needs after years of suppression. Practical advice highlights short moments of unmasking and sensory strategies to foster self-advocacy and trust in one's instincts, ultimately illuminating the road to recovery and acceptance.
Aug 1, 2025 • 39min
Episode 117 (Season 3): Autistic Burnout City: Energy Limits and Management
Autistic burnout can leave you feeling drained, and the journey to manage energy in a neurotypical world is real. The hosts share their own experiences with sensory overload and chronic fatigue. They dive into helpful concepts like spoon theory and the boom-and-bust recovery cycle, offering strategies for energy management. The conversation highlights the importance of self-compassion and the need to advocate for personal limits. Discover actionable tips for mapping energy rhythms and prioritizing activities that restore balance and joy.
Jul 25, 2025 • 39min
Episode 116 (Season 3): Autistic Burnout City: The Sensitive Nervous System
Burnout is a persistent challenge for autistic individuals, deeply tied to their nervous system responses. The hosts explore the science behind stress regulation, heart rate variability, and the impact of trauma. They emphasize the importance of self-compassion and co-regulation in navigating daily challenges. Practical tools for mapping nervous system responses are discussed, along with personal stories of overcoming mental health struggles. The conversation highlights how recognizing triggers can lead to greater resilience and well-being.
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Jul 18, 2025 • 51min
Episode 115 (Season 3): Autistic Burnout City: How Sensory Input Impacts Burnout
Burnout goes beyond just exhaustion; it's a sensory overload that can push neurodivergent individuals to their limits. The hosts share personal experiences of burnout cycles, exploring how sensory input significantly shapes their emotional well-being. They discuss the need for quiet and the psychological impact of feeling trapped in overstimulating environments. Listeners gain insights into sensory awareness, the importance of individual sensory profiles, and practical strategies for finding calm amidst chaos.
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Jul 11, 2025 • 57min
Episode 114 (Season 3): Building Burnout Recovery City: When Your Dog Pees on You and You Don’t Care
Explore the complexities of Autistic burnout recovery through personal struggles and practical strategies. The hosts share strategies like boundary-setting and creating safe spaces, showcasing the importance of self-awareness and agency. Discover how animals can enhance mental well-being, along with innovative community-building ideas. They candidly discuss the emotional depth of recovery, navigating sensory sensitivities, and the pressures of writing a workbook. Join them for a relatable and insightful journey toward healing and empowerment.
