
The Sales Podcast With Wes Schaeffer, The Sales Whisperer®
Since 2013, The Sales Podcast is the OG "sales podcast" for salespeople, sales managers, business owners, and entrepreneurs, which is why I own the URL, TheSalesPodcast.com. Listen in to get proven, profitable sales training and marketing advice via interviews with your peers who are closing big deals, growing businesses, and even climbing out of the rubble. I ask them about the technology they use, how they have changed their approach to take advantage of the economy and the proliferation of AI, cold email, and internet bros. If you want to get better at sales, listen to The Sales Podcast.
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Dec 11, 2024 • 47min
Your Potential Is Wisdom: Ben Lytle
BEN LYTLE is a self-made serial entrepreneur and CEO known for being ahead of the curve.He has launched seven successful companies to date, creating billions in market value, including NYSE-listed Acordia, Inc., and Anthem (now Elevance Health), with a current market value of more than $120 billion.He is a healthcare policy expert who chaired or served on state and presidential healthcare commissions and a governance leader with extensive public company experience.Ben has identified five change forces converging to create a New Reality and recommends optimal adaptive actions for individuals, businesses, and social institutions.Wisdom is easier to develop than generally assumed and can be accelerated. It has been taught for thousands of years, and literature is abundant.Technology can make wisdom easily accessible to learn and apply in decision-making. A growth mechanism inside everyone awaits to assist and guide.Routine unconscious practices performed consciously and intentionally accelerate wisdom. Adults can develop wisdom regardless of age, educational background, or social standing.Little or no expense and nominal daily time are required. The pursuit of wisdom is personal and private, with no need to disclose to others or join anything.All that is needed is a heartfelt, unwavering commitment to becoming your best while equally serving others.Guest Site: https://potentialistfuture.comGuest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-lytle-a6a0b914/ Guest YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ben.lytle.potentialist0:00 Introduction to Ben Lytle and His Achievements 03:10 The Interconnection of Wisdom and Potential06:09 Navigating Change in a Rapidly Evolving World08:48 The Role of Adversity in Personal Growth11:49 The Future of Healthcare and AI Integration14:53 Embracing AI as a Tool for Productivity18:05 The Importance of Adaptation in a Declining Population25:50 Embracing AI and Robotics for Progress28:43 Creating Your Digital Alter Ego30:35 Revolutionizing Personal Health Records34:57 Navigating Sales Challenges in a Changing Market39:42 The Pursuit of Wisdom in Modern Society43:56 Practical Steps to Achieve Your GoalsGet daily tips on sales, marketing, entrepreneurship...and a little Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu for free at https://wesschaeffer.com/dailyNot for the mediocre majority: Learn how I get more done in a quarter than most achieve in a decade in 12 Weeks To Peak™ https://wesschaeffer.com/12wConnect with me:X -- https://X.com/saleswhispererInstagram -- https://instagram.com/saleswhispererLinkedIn -- http://www.linkedin.com/in/thesaleswhisperer/#12WeeksToPeak #SalesTraining #GoalSetting #PersonalDevelopment #LifeAdvice #GrowthMindset

Dec 6, 2024 • 43min
How To Blend Old With New To Win In Business Today: Titus Jumper
TakeawaysParenting can be both joyful and challenging, especially with large families.Entrepreneurship requires a willingness to take risks and learn from failures.The timeline between idea and action can be short for those willing to embrace risk.Failures should be viewed as learning opportunities rather than setbacks.AI is transforming the sales and customer service landscape, making processes more efficient.Understanding when to quit a venture is crucial for long-term success.Building strong teams is essential for scaling businesses effectively.The importance of personal interaction in sales remains, even with the rise of AI.Balancing multiple businesses can lead to stress and pressure on personal life.Success in business often comes from a combination of hard work, resilience, and adaptability. AI is significantly impacting the call center and customer service industries.Old school sales techniques remain effective in today's market.Local events and networking are crucial for business growth.Listening is a vital skill for successful salespeople.Balancing family life with business is essential for fulfillment.Success should be redefined beyond just financial achievements.Understanding personal values is key to true success.AI can enhance sales processes, especially for high-volume products.The emotional connection to family can be more fulfilling than business success.Enjoying the journey of family life is important for overall happiness.titles00:00 The Joys and Challenges of Parenting06:10 Navigating Success and Failure in Business14:04 Understanding When to Quit vs. Persist19:52 The Future of Customer Service with AI26:39 Old School Sales Techniques in a Modern World31:39 Balancing Family Life and Business Success41:10 The Future of AI in Customer EngagementGuest Site: https://jovee.ai/Guest Site: https://sales-hub.com/ Guest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/titus-jumper-597207162/Get daily tips on sales, marketing, entrepreneurship...and a little Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu for free at https://wesschaeffer.com/dailyNot for the mediocre majority: Learn how I get more done in a quarter than most achieve in a decade in 12 Weeks To Peak™ https://wesschaeffer.com/12wConnect with me:X -- https://X.com/saleswhispererInstagram -- https://instagram.com/saleswhispererLinkedIn -- http://www.linkedin.com/in/thesaleswhisperer/#12WeeksToPeak #SalesTraining #GoalSetting #PersonalDevelopment #LifeAdvice #GrowthMindset

Nov 27, 2024 • 49min
From Russia With Love—Focus & Make Them An Offer They Can’t Refuse: Andrei Mincov
"If I don't do it now, I will never go.""Without clients, I don't have a business.""I have a 99.3% rate of success."00:00 Andrei Mincov's Journey: From Russia to Dubai05:48 Navigating Legal Education in Canada11:23 The Birth of Trademark Factory17:22 The Challenges of Leaving Law Behind22:19 Validation Through Doubt 27:50 Comprehensive Trademark Search and Assessment37:50 When to Consider Trademarking Your BrandAndrei's journey from Russia to Dubai shaped his entrepreneurial spirit.Transitioning from lawyer to entrepreneur requires a shift in mindset.Trademark Factory was born out of a desire to help entrepreneurs.Understanding client needs is crucial for business success.A flat fee for trademark registration can prevent unexpected costs.The importance of a money-back guarantee in service-based businesses.Building a brand is an investment in the future of a business.Trademark registration is essential for protecting intellectual property.Many businesses underestimate the value of their brand.Legal services should be viewed as a service, not a profession.Get daily tips on sales, marketing, entrepreneurship...and a little Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu for free at https://wesschaeffer.com/dailyNot for the mediocre majority: Learn how I get more done in a quarter than most achieve in a decade in 12 Weeks To Peak™ https://wesschaeffer.com/12wConnect with me:X -- https://X.com/saleswhispererInstagram -- https://instagram.com/saleswhispererLinkedIn -- http://www.linkedin.com/in/thesaleswhisperer/#12WeeksToPeak #SalesTraining #GoalSetting #PersonalDevelopment #LifeAdvice #GrowthMindset

Nov 18, 2024 • 51min
How To Incentivize Coin-Operated Salespeople, With Bernie Kassar
In this conversation, Bernie Kassar and I delve into the intricacies of sales compensation plans, emphasizing the importance of simplification and alignment with business objectives.Bernie shares insights from his extensive experience in the field, discussing the transition from traditional compensation structures to more effective models that motivate sales teams.The discussion also touches on the role of technology in automating commission calculations and the significance of motivation and inspiration in driving sales performance.We also discuss the challenges of distractions in the digital age, emphasizing the importance of time management and personal accountability.We explore how different generations are motivated and the need for effective leadership in sales teams and we also highlight the role of technology in sales, the necessity of training, and the importance of connecting with potential clients.We wrap up with a light-hearted discussion about personal connections and the influence of media on public perception.GUEST INFO:Guest Site: https://latitude39.com/contact/Guest LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/berniekassarChapters00:00 Understanding Sales Compensation Plans03:07 The Importance of Simplification in Comp Plans05:58 Transitioning Compensation Structures08:46 The Journey from Employee to Founder12:02 The Role of Technology in Sales Compensation15:03 Motivation and Inspiration in Sales Teams24:04 Navigating Distractions in a Digital Age25:11 Empowering Individuals Through Time Management26:40 Understanding Generational Differences in Motivation28:08 Building Accountability in Sales Teams30:06 Leveraging Technology for Sales Success32:39 The Importance of Training and Standardization33:45 Connecting with Potential Clients35:25 Offering Value to Startups36:29 Navigating Personal Connections and Travel39:01 Staying Positive Amidst Media FrenzyGet daily tips on sales, marketing, entrepreneurship...and a little Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu for free at https://wesschaeffer.com/dailyNot for the mediocre majority: Learn how I get more done in a quarter than most achieve in a decade in 12 Weeks To Peak™ https://wesschaeffer.com/12wConnect with me:X -- https://X.com/saleswhispererInstagram -- https://instagram.com/saleswhispererLinkedIn -- http://www.linkedin.com/in/thesaleswhisperer/#12WeeksToPeak #SalesTraining #GoalSetting #PersonalDevelopment #LifeAdvice #GrowthMindset

Nov 11, 2024 • 39min
Pull Your Visitors Out of WitSec & Sell To Them! Jim Harenchar
Takeaways
Direct mail remains a viable marketing resource.
Understanding visitor behavior is crucial for effective marketing.
Response attribution helps validate marketing ROI.
Audience targeting is essential for successful campaigns.
Creative strategies should be informed by data insights.
Compliance in marketing data is increasingly important.
B2B and B2C marketing strategies can leverage similar data.
Technology is reshaping consumer behavior and marketing practices.
Effective marketing requires a mix of traditional and digital strategies.
Marketers must continuously adapt to changing consumer preferences.
00:00 Introduction to Jim Harenchar and Response Marketing Group
06:07 Data-Driven Marketing: Understanding Visitor Behavior
11:55 The Importance of Audience Targeting in Marketing
18:07 Navigating Compliance in Marketing Data
24:08 The Future of Marketing: Technology and Consumer Behavior
30:03 Conclusion and Resources for Marketers
GUEST INFO:
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Guest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jharenchar/
Guest YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@responsemarketinggroup2218/
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Nov 8, 2024 • 1h 1min
Curate, Connect, Close Better Contacts With Kuration AI
In this episode of the CRM Sushi Podcast, I interview Aurelien Vasinis, a tech entrepreneur with a unique background in political science and finance.
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Aurelien shares his journey from studying political science to becoming a hands-on product manager and developer in the tech industry.
He discusses the importance of distributed teams, the evolution of his current business, Kuration AI, and how it leverages agent workflows to automate lead generation and market research.
The conversation also touches on the differences between Kuration AI, Clay, and Zapier, and the significance of targeted lead generation strategies for small businesses.
Aurelien concludes with a demonstration of Kuration AI's capabilities, showcasing its user-friendly interface and powerful features.
We get into the challenges and solutions in data management, particularly for small businesses and solopreneurs. He emphasizes the importance of automation tools like Zapier, the complexities of data subscriptions, and the need for customizable data filters.
Aurelien also shares insights on effective cold emailing strategies, the evolving landscape of platforms like Product Hunt, and the pricing structure of his service, KurationAI, which aims to simplify the research process for users.
GUEST INFO:
Guest Site: https://www.kurationai.com/
Guest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/kuration-ai/
Guest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vasinis/
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
03:01 Transitioning from Political Science to Tech
05:56 Building Distributed Teams
08:59 The Evolution of Curation AI
11:51 Understanding Agent Workflows
15:05 Curation AI vs. Clay and Zapier
17:58 Targeting and Lead Generation Strategies
21:01 Demonstration of Curation AI
28:57 Leveraging Automation Tools for Data Management
30:10 Navigating the Complex Landscape of Data Subscriptions
32:09 Customizing Data Filters for Targeted Outreach
34:49 Building a User-Friendly Research Tool
40:45 Creating a Sustainable Business Model
43:35 Effective Cold Email Strategies for Lead Generation
49:02 Evaluating the Impact of Product Hunt
50:24 Understanding Data Point Pricing and Usage
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Nov 7, 2024 • 48min
Unleash Your Strategic Sales With RevHeat's Ken Lundin
In this conversation, Ken Lundin and I explore the dynamics of sales growth, the impact of technology on communication, and the importance of curiosity in sales.
We discuss the myths surrounding product-led growth, emphasizing the need for a client-centric approach.
The conversation also touches on the challenges faced by modern salespeople, the role of AI in sales communication, and the necessity of proper sales training and skill development.
And Ken shares insights on launching 'Get Sales Fit', a newsletter aimed at helping sales professionals improve their performance while maintaining a healthy work-life balance.
Chapters
00:00 The Power of Technology in Sales and Parenting
03:04 Curiosity and Its Impact on Sales
06:06 The Myths of Product-Led Growth
08:52 Client-Centric Selling: Understanding Customer Needs
12:10 The Challenges of Modern Sales
14:57 The Role of AI in Sales Communication
18:03 Sales Training and Skill Development
21:10 The CRM Conundrum
24:03 Understanding Sales Processes
25:56 Testing and Metrics in Sales
28:06 Cold Email Strategies
29:54 Marketing and Client Engagement
31:58 The Role of Sales in Business
34:02 Advertising Strategies and Trends
35:46 Launching 'Get Sales Fit'
GUEST INFO:
Get his free book: https://drivingtraction.com/
Guest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kglundin/
Guest Site: https://revheat.com/
Get Sales Fit: https://newsletter.getsalesfit.com/
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Nov 1, 2024 • 43min
Gui Costin's Proven Formula for Coaching Sales Teams to Success
Meet Gui Costin, founder and CEO of Dakota, an investment services company that has helped clients raise more than $40B since its launch.
But Gui's story goes beyond just numbers—he's an innovator who's transforming what it means to build a successful workplace culture in the world of finance.
As the author of "Millennials Are Not Aliens" and "The Dakota Way," Gui brings new perspectives to marketing, leadership & sales in the investment world.
His people-focused approach has led him to build two companies generating $20 million every year by prioritizing what he believes matters most: people. (A strategy that has had him featured in Forbes, Inc., and appearing on Yahoo Finance's morning show!)
His "no-policy policy" fosters autonomy and trust, while his talent for engaging millennial and Gen Z workers challenges traditional management styles.
Gui's journey—from his initial career in real estate to founding Dakota—is filled with insights on building strong company cultures, modernizing sales processes, and adapting leadership styles that motivate and inspire teams across generations.
—Cultivating a Culture of Calm: How Trust and Autonomy Drive High Performance
—The No-Policy Policy: Empowering Employees in The Modern Workplace
—Selling in The Digital Age: Leveraging Content and Relationships to Reach RIAs
—Bridging The Generational Divide: Leadership Strategies for a Multigenerational Workforce
—From Founder to Coach: Guiding Your Sales Team to Success Through Mentorship
00:00 Introduction to Gui Costin and Dakota
02:23 Leveraging Content for Business Growth
04:02 Learning from Failure: The Birth of a New Business
06:09 Generational Perspectives in the Workplace
08:05 Results Over Reasons: A Mindset for Success
08:58 Transitioning from Employee to Entrepreneur
12:19 The Importance of Leadership and Mentorship
15:20 Creating a Positive Work Culture
18:11 Kindness vs. Niceness in Leadership
19:51 The Importance of Continuous Feedback
22:42 Hiring for Culture and Team Dynamics
23:58 Iterating on Existing Ideas
27:30 Identifying and Solving Acute Problems
28:18 Overcoming Excuses and Taking Action
32:32 Learning from Failures and Adjusting Strategies
34:12 The Value of Responsiveness in Business
38:41 Final Thoughts and Resources for Entrepreneurs
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https://MakeEverySale.com

Oct 30, 2024 • 49min
Get on 50 Podcasts in 100 Days: Mischa Zvegintzov
In this engaging conversation, Mischa Zvegintzov shares his journey from a successful sales career to becoming a podcast host and influencer. He discusses the evolution of his podcast, the importance of video testimonials, and the challenges and benefits of high-end masterminds. Mischa emphasizes the significance of strategic networking and guest speaking in the podcasting world, providing insights on how to effectively leverage these opportunities for business growth. In this conversation, Wes and Mischa discuss the intricacies of podcast guesting, emphasizing the importance of follow-up, the value of building an influence army, and effective pricing strategies. They share insights on maximizing podcast appearances, the reality of podcasting, and the credibility it brings. The discussion also touches on the significance of memorable branding and URLs for effective marketing. Takeaways Mischa transitioned from a sales career to podcasting after retirement. He initially struggled with imposter syndrome in online marketing. The importance of video testimonials for businesses is highlighted. Mischa's podcast journey began with a focus on storytelling and rebirth. He emphasizes the need for a clear strategy when guest speaking on podcasts. High-end masterminds can be valuable but often require refined offers to succeed. Mischa advocates for starting with guest speaking before launching a podcast. Effective networking is crucial for monetizing podcast appearances. He shares a simple pitch strategy for reaching out to podcast hosts. Mischa believes in serving the audience during interviews to create value. Merging and blending ideas can lead to creative outcomes. Follow-up is crucial in podcast guesting; many miss opportunities due to lack of response. Maximizing podcast appearances involves strategic follow-up and content repurposing. Building an influence army can enhance your reach and authority. Pricing strategies should evolve; starting low can create urgency for future increases. Podcasting can enhance credibility, even if the content isn't widely listened to. It's essential to present oneself professionally during podcast appearances. Memorable branding and URLs can significantly impact marketing success. Many professionals miss opportunities by not following up or promoting their appearances effectively. The podcasting journey is about continuous learning and adapting. Chapters 00:00 The Journey of Mischa Z: From Sales to Podcasting 09:59 Navigating High-End Masterminds: Value vs. Cost 19:56 The Art of Podcasting: Strategies for Success 26:32 The Art of Podcast Guesting 28:37 The Importance of Follow-Up 30:55 Maximizing Podcast Appearances 32:39 Building an Influence Army 34:48 Pricing Strategies for Success 36:15 The Reality of Podcasting 38:30 Credibility Through Podcasting 40:43 Memorable Branding and URLs GUEST INFO: Guest Site: Chief Influence Officer - TheInfluenceArmy Guest Site: The Table Rush Talk Show Get his free downloadable podcast guest speaking guide! Guest Speaking Masterclass Influence Army Membership Trial Offer Guest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mischaz/ Sales Growth Tools Mentioned Hire The Best Speaker for your sales meeting or marketing conference Take The CRM Quiz: get a free consultation with me Get The “Whisper Starter Pack" Automate your sales for $15

Oct 25, 2024 • 45min
Build a Badass Brand With Pia Silva
In this conversation, Pia Silva discusses her journey in branding and marketing, emphasizing the importance of being authentic and owning one's identity. She shares insights on how to stand out in a crowded market, the significance of self-promotion, and the challenges faced by small branding agencies. The discussion also touches on effective advertising strategies and the evolving landscape of social media. In this engaging conversation, Pia Silva and Wes discuss the ongoing journey of business success, emphasizing that initial achievements are just the beginning. They explore strategies for building a profitable small agency without the need for a large team, focusing on trust-building in sales, especially for service providers. The importance of empowering clients through knowledge and ownership is highlighted, along with the value of community engagement and sharing resources. Pia also offers insights into her approach to client relationships and the significance of maintaining a healthy work-life balance. Takeaways Being badass is about owning your identity. Confidence is built over years of experience. Unique branding can set you apart from competitors. Self-promotion is crucial for success in business. Navigating social media requires curation and focus. Coaching small agencies can lead to significant growth. Effective advertising requires a clear understanding of your audience. The sale is just the beginning of the relationship. Branding should reflect authenticity and uniqueness. Ads should enhance an already successful funnel. It's gonna be a problem if you think, oh, I did it. The work really truly begins after the initial sale. Certain kinds of businesses can benefit from churn. Building trust is essential before pitching services. Selling a small initial service can lead to bigger sales later. Proposals should not be fishing expeditions. Empower clients by giving them ownership of their projects. Community engagement is key for service providers. Free resources can attract potential clients. Maintaining a work-life balance is crucial for mental health. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Personal Branding Journey 02:49 The Concept of Being Badass 05:51 Unique Branding Strategies 08:56 The Importance of Self-Promotion 12:03 Navigating the Noise of Social Media 14:51 Coaching Small Branding Agencies 18:05 Effective Advertising Strategies 22:35 The Journey Begins: Beyond Initial Success 27:44 Sales Strategies for Service Providers 33:30 Empowering Clients Through Knowledge 36:44 The Importance of Client Ownership GUEST INFO: Guest Site: https://www.nobsagencies.com/ Pia Silva LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/piapiasilva Free Bonus: Get a free audio version of Pia's book Badass Your Brand: The Impatient Entrepreneur's Guide to Turning Expertise into Profit: nobsagencies.com/the-sales Pia Silva Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pialovesyourbiz/ Free Blueprint on how to scale your branding agency to $30k+ months without employees Use Pia’s FREE calculator to discover the price you must charge to achieve freedom in your branding business Grab Pia’s best-selling book Badass Your Brand OR download the first chapter FOR FREE Get the free audio book Listen to Pia's podcast “No BS Agency Podcast” Check out Pia's No BS Agency Owners Free Facebook Group Sales Growth Tools Mentioned Hire The Best Speaker for your sales meeting or marketing conference Take The CRM Quiz: get a free consultation with me Get The “Whisper Starter Pack" Automate your sales for $15